Misconceptions

[Catholic Christian]

That is not all it says. It also says you cannot be saved without the Roman sacraments. Rome also says you cannot be saved without being subject to the Roman pope. Rome has added so much to the Gospel over the centuries to the point of having turned into another gospel, as Paul said to the Galatians, which is no good news at all. One day terry, and all the Romans, yule have to learn the difference between a theological criticism and argument and an "insult".

God, infinitely perfect and blessed in himself, in a plan of sheer goodness freely created man to make him share in his own blessed life. For this reason, at every time and in every place, God draws close to man. He calls man to seek him, to know him, to love him with all his strength. He calls together all men, scattered and divided by sin, into the unity of his family, the Church. To accomplish this, when the fullness of time had come, God sent his Son as Redeemer and Savior. In his Son and through him, he invites men to become, in the Holy Spirit, his adopted children and thus heirs of his blessed life.

Catechism Of The Catholic Church:
http://www.usccb.org/catechism/text/prologue.htm

 

[Catholic Christian]

Tell us terry, what is the "Good News"?

delete (lost my Christian bearing for a minute there)

 

[ScottBot]

The good news for you is that you're not in arms reach of me right now

Or he would give you a great big hug!

 

[fated]

Catechism is like:

I was created by God to know and love Him for ever.

And understanding this we want to praise God, but how? Perhaps a prayer exists! But, I could use some help...

Glory be to the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy Spirit...

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

When the Judaizers were adding conditions for salvation that undermined the Gospel of Christ by Grace, through faith, Paul called them "ministers of Satan", 2 Corinthians 11;

The reason I highlighted "judaism" is because while debating the Muslims, they also view Saul/Paul as a False Apostle and ,and I wondered where they were getting a lot of their assumptions from, and one told me about this site here that even some sects within Christianity view him that way also.

This completely stunned me when I saw what this site said:

John 7:1 And was walking, the Jesus, after these in the Galilee/galilaia <1056>; for not He willed, in the Judaea to be walking, that the Judeans sought Him to kill.

http://www.judaismvschristianity.com/paulthe.htm

There are a number of historical facts, including things that both Yahshua and Paul said as recorded in the Bible,that leave us with some very compelling evidence against his apostleship being recognized in heaven.

 

[fated]

You, brother Christian, ARE subject to the Roman Pontiff, why don't you open your eyes and see...

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

You, brother Christian, ARE subject to the Roman Pontiff, why don't you open your eyes and see...

 

[NoDoubt]

You, brother Christian, ARE subject to the Roman Pontiff, why don't you open your eyes and see...

 

[ScottBot]

I kn ow, I know, the revelation, when first truely comprehended is quite a shock. Well talk more when you've recovered from your epiphany.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

I kn ow, I know, the revelation, when first truely comprehended is quite a shock. Well talk more when you've recovered from your epiphany.

I have seen how the Roman church views the "Revelation" and I find it lacking.

Reve 19:11 And I perceived the heaven having be opened and Lo! A horse, white and the One sitting on it/him being called Faithful-one and True-one and in justice He is judging and is battling.

http://christianforums.com/showthread.php?p=42771526#post42771526

Chapter 20 Verse 4-5 Deals with Christ's Established Church that refussed to follow the beast. This was all done when Rome converted to Christianity and the 1000 years began.

 

[NoDoubt]

I have seen how the Roman church views the "Revelation" and I find it lacking.

Reve 19:11 And I perceived the heaven having be opened and Lo! A horse, white and the One sitting on it/him being called Faithful-one and True-one and in justice He is judging and is battling.

http://christianforums.com/showthread.php?p=42771526#post42771526

Chapter 20 Verse 4-5 Deals with Christ's Established Church that refussed to follow the beast. This was all done when Rome converted to Christianity and the 1000 years began.

As I understand it, this refers to Christ coming in victory at or after the battle of Armageddon to set up His millenial messianic reign, thus it is a future event. Yes?

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

As I understand it, this refers to Christ coming in victory at or after the battle of Armageddon to set up His millenial messianic reign, thus it is a future event. Yes?

Hi. I don't want to derail this thread with Eschatology but I do have thread here on that if you are interested

LLOJ [has to leave for awhile]

http://christianforums.com/t6813701-question-time-jesus-returns-before-or-after-1000yrs.html

 

[sunlover1]

You, brother Christian, ARE subject to the Roman Pontiff, why don't you open your eyes and see...

Why would I be subject to a pope?

 

[fated]

Why would I be subject to a pope?

You are right, he is a loving father who respects your freedom, though it has not always been so...

You, sister Christian, ARE subject to the Roman Pontiff, why don't you open your eyes and see...

And I his loyal subject.

 

[ScottBot]

Why would I be subject to a pope?

Because 600 years ago he said so.

 

[NoDoubt]

Hi. I don't want to derail this thread with Eschatology but I do have thread here on that if you are interested

LLOJ [has to leave for awhile]

http://christianforums.com/t6813701-question-time-jesus-returns-before-or-after-1000yrs.html

Oops. (sorry 'bout that) Thanks for the link (I have to take off for the afternoon myself)

 

[fated]

Because 600 years ago he said so.

You are very salty.

 

[NoDoubt]

Because 600 years ago he said so.

He ain't the boss of me.

 

[ScottBot]

You are very salty.

I get that alot. That's why I have the curmudgeon thing on my mood indicator.

 

[sunlover1]

You are right, he is a loving father who respects your freedom, though it has not always been so...

You, sister Christian, ARE subject to the Roman Pontiff, why don't you open your eyes and see...

And I his loyal subject.

My liberty is found IN His precepts. It's walking in the narrow path that gives us liberty imo.
But I still dont understand why you'd say that I'm
subject to the pope.

Because 600 years ago he said so.

Who did?
Show me.