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Military commander removed after denouncing neo-Marxist critical race theory

Discussion in 'News & Current Events (Articles Required)' started by disciple Clint, May 17, 2021.

  1. GOD Shines Forth!

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    Isn’t that the point of subversion? To destroy your enemy from within?
     
  2. Ana the Ist

    Ana the Ist Aggressively serene!

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    I think it's the methodology of Fabian socialism (though I haven't read up on them in years) aka the long march through the institutions.

    Try not to worry about it too much. Whenever these people get in charge their ineptitude becomes obvious. For example, Evergreen College. Last I checked they tried to get a new president, he took a glance at it, and turned down the opportunity. It's a sinking ship.
     
  3. disciple Clint

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    The 1619 project is a little more than that as pointed out in this article: The Real Goals of "The 1619 Project"
    Its lead essay, written by activist Nicole Hannah-Jones, falsifies important parts of American history with a view to engineering this new approach. While it has been roundly debunked by a chorus of renowned academics for gross factual and thematic inaccuracies, its most outlandish claim is that the American Revolution was fought to protect slavery.

    The overriding lesson is clear: young people must learn to despise their nation—its Constitution, ideals, economic system, and its Founders. They must resent and reject their past; possess an aggressive, contemptuous, and disobedient attitude toward the present; and strive forcefully to create a triumphant future where the enemies of old are punished, and the innocent finally rule. Teaching young people that they have no country, that there is neither God nor justice, but only their own anger to right wrongs leads not to civilized self-rule, but to fanaticism and self-destruction.
     
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  4. iluvatar5150

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    IOW, "There is no racial bigotry here. I do not look down on <string of slurs>. Here you are all equally worthless."
     
  5. iluvatar5150

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    The 1619 Project was a mixed bag that raised some worthwhile issues while taking liberties with (or just getting wrong) some underlying facts. It's unfortunate because it was a good project that didn't need those stretches in order to make the bulk of its case, and those errors gave ammo to people who would deny any of their points.

    OTOH, it's been my experience that many of the folks who complain loudly about the 1619 Project are the same ones who'd promote the latest offerings from Dinesh D'souza, Trump's myriad lies, or his administration's "1776 Report."
     
  6. RDKirk

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    No, not those words at all.

    Where Marxism exaggerates "class consciousness," the military mitigates it.
     
  7. Arcangl86

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    But isn't the military structured around defined classes i.e. enlisted, NCO, SNCO and the various grades of officers? It seems ot me that it actually encourages class consciousness, though not class struggle.
     
  8. RDKirk

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    There is a fundamental difference between class (particularly as Marxism defines it and depends on it) and rank.

    Primarily, class (particularly as Marxism defines it and depends on it) cannot be overcome, not even by money. In the military, soldiers are fully expected to advance in rank...and it's also possible to be reduced in rank. A person senior in rank fully expects his subordinate to someday replace him. Rank is a matter of functional organization rather than social hierarchy, and is thus far more fluid than class.

    The Chinese Red Army initially attempted to have a "rankless" military, making the same mistake of thinking that rank was the same thing as class, and discovered by harsh reality that they are very different things; the Chinese Red Army does now use a rank structure.
     
  9. Desk trauma

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    I recently spoke with a Marine of that vintage who said that he was given a variation of that speech in basic, slurs included, so it does pre date the Gunnery Sargent Hartman character.
     
  10. Pommer

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    Buuuut, isn’t the military in our fair land largely a Marxist system?
     
  11. RDKirk

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    No. It could be considered a "communal" system, but neither Marxist nor socialist nor communist by anyone who understands what those really are.
     
  12. iluvatar5150

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    Yeah, I don't think there was ever any claim that his schpiel was entirely original - as I recall, the story was the he was originally brought on as a consultant and just riffed his way through things like that well enough that they hired him for the role.
     
  13. CatsRule2020

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    Possibly another reason this officer was removed was because this organization that he spoke at, first sponsored Trump. It is very pro-Republican which nowadays means anti-constitution driven.
     
  14. CatsRule2020

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    This is an accurate description of the those who attempted to overthrow the Government on Jan. 6th.

    It also looks like the Communists have us rooting for either 'Stop the Steal' or 'Black Lives Matter'.
     
  15. Desk trauma

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    The influence of the endangered species that is US communists is insufficient to sway enough peoples opinions to matter.
     
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  16. disciple Clint

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    now where is the evidence to justify that statement? Conservatives are certainly far from anti-constitution
     
  17. disciple Clint

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    How exactly is that an accurate description of those who attempted to overthrow the Government, there was a demonstration not an attempt to overthrow the government, stick with the facts.
     
  18. iluvatar5150

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    Conservatives rhetoric pays pretty solid lip-service to the constitution, but in practice, conservatives are just as guilty as anybody of cherry-picking the parts of the constitution they choose to enforce. They talk pretty good games about amendments 2, 9, 10, and parts of 1, but have zero trouble ignoring or fighting to work around amendments 4, 6, 7, 8, 14 (section 1), 15, 16, and 24.
     
  19. Desk trauma

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    Not to mention article VI clause 3.
     
  20. Ana the Ist

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    I haven't read it in full...but what I have read fits the story that it was written by a non-historian.

    Well...a bunch of historians got together and pointed out multiple problems with it. I don't know their political affiliations...but I've no reason to believe their character is the issue here.

    History should be about facts.
     
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