Mike Pence rolls out new 19 page policy platform

[essentialsaltes]

Former Vice President Mike Pence is taking another step toward running for the White House in 2024 — and leaning into his split with former President Donald Trump.

The former vice president has spent the last year laying the groundwork for a 2024 campaign — launching a nonprofit policy group, huddling with major donors and stumping for midterm candidates. Pence has also stood by his decision to refuse Trump’s pressure to overturn the results of the 2020 election, and he has urged the party to move beyond the last presidential contest, drawing sharp criticism from the former president.

“Elections are about the future, and frankly the opposition would love nothing more for conservatives to talk about the past or to talk of the mess they’ve made of the president,” Pence said on a Wednesday afternoon conference call with POLITICO and several other news outlets, where he previewed his policy agenda.

 

[Akita Suggagaki]

My opinion of him changed January 6th. Still, he was not impressive during the debates. Unless some better candidate comes forth I can support him.

 

[Goonie]

Unless it's triple ply I'm not interested, and 19 sheets is not enough.

 

[seeking.IAM]

I am waiting on Liz Cheney to throw her hat in the ring.

 

[Opdrey]

Former Vice President Mike Pence is taking another step toward running for the White House in 2024 — and leaning into his split with former President Donald Trump.

The former vice president has spent the last year laying the groundwork for a 2024 campaign — launching a nonprofit policy group, huddling with major donors and stumping for midterm candidates. Pence has also stood by his decision to refuse Trump’s pressure to overturn the results of the 2020 election, and he has urged the party to move beyond the last presidential contest, drawing sharp criticism from the former president.

“Elections are about the future, and frankly the opposition would love nothing more for conservatives to talk about the past or to talk of the mess they’ve made of the president,” Pence said on a Wednesday afternoon conference call with POLITICO and several other news outlets, where he previewed his policy agenda.

I fear it is far too late for Mike P. He debased himself so often to Trump during the various televised cabinet meetings that for him to discover a "spine" later on is simply just making himself look like an uliginous person without strict ethical grounding.

I am glad Mike P. decided against joining the Coup in Jan 2020 and doing his job. But he had spent 4 years steadily polishing Trump's boots. He facilitated Trump. He is as much responsible for Trump's tenure as any and all of the other facilitators. He will be unable to wash away that stain.

 

[Opdrey]

I am waiting on Liz Cheney to throw her hat in the ring.

She wouldn't be able to get the GOP nomination. Which is ironic. She was as much a Trumpist as any of them, but finally Trump showed that there was no bottom to his barrel and she was unwilling to go deeper.

It is very much like Pence; a "Road to Damascus" moment a bit too late.

It is good when people in government finally find ethics and a spine, but the fact that so many of them require a lot of effort to do so indicates that few of them are actually worthy of people's adulation. Especially not when the bar is so low as to suggest that we adore her because she finally stood up to Trump after years of being as crudely conservative as he was (suggesting that Obama was "secretely sympathetic" of jihadists, defending the use of torture, Islamophobic, etc.) Until she finally developed a spine she was a Trump supporter through and through. She characterized the Dems as "antisemites" and said they supported "infanticide".

 

[.Mikha'el.]

He is entitled to run if he chooses. If I were American, I'd strongly consider voting for him. But he has no chance at the party presidential nomination. There are too many far-right voters in the GOP who hate him for not overturning Electoral College results which he had no authority to do anyway. Even if he somehow made it through the primaries or ran as an independent, too many voters would too closely associate him with Trump to consider him an option.

 

[seeking.IAM]

I am waiting on Liz Cheney to throw her hat in the ring.

She wouldn't be able to get the GOP nomination

Oh, I agree. But I keep hoping there will be a more moderate Republican candidate less enmeshed with the current far-right movement afoot in the party. One can only hope. I won't vote for Trump or any of his minions.

 

[Whyayeman]

Has he a chance of gaining the nomination. I suppose he thinks so. It might split the Trump support. It will certainly enrage Trump.

 

[seeking.IAM]

I fear it is far too late for Mike P....He facilitated Trump. He is as much responsible for Trump's tenure as any and all of the other facilitators. He will be unable to wash away that stain.

It has been said once you sell your soul to the devil, you don't get it back.

 

[Opdrey]

It has been said once you sell your soul to the devil, you don't get it back.

And in some ways that is what makes Mike such a tragic figure. He clearly believes his faith is real, but the fruit he bears appears rotten to the core. I would dearly love it if Mike actually lived his faith and not some version that allowed him to play a role in the darkest parts of the world while acting as if he is not of this world.

 

[seeking.IAM]

And in some ways that is what makes Mike such a tragic figure. He clearly believes his faith is real, but the fruit he bears appears rotten to the core. I would dearly love it if Mike actually lived his faith and not some version that allowed him to play a role in the darkest parts of the world while acting as if he is not of this world.

Mr. Pence fell victim to blind ambition. He has wanted the White House since he was a congressman. He resigned Congress to run for Indiana governor so he could check the box of administrative experience on his resume for the White House. When Mr. Trump asked, Mr. Pence saw the VP opportunity as his next step to the White House. And now he has this mess to live with (or live down). I was not a fan when he was my Congressman, less so when he was my Governor, and even less so when he set aside his values to align himself with President Trump, whose values I perceive to be about as polar opposite as one can be from Mr. Pence. I suspect Mr. Pence will never make the White House now unless there is some sort of dramatic swing in the GOP. I don't much care for him but in a way I feel sorry for the guy. I think of Frost's poem about two road diverging. Mike chose the wrong road.

 

[Ana the Ist]

Former Vice President Mike Pence is taking another step toward running for the White House in 2024 — and leaning into his split with former President Donald Trump.

The former vice president has spent the last year laying the groundwork for a 2024 campaign — launching a nonprofit policy group, huddling with major donors and stumping for midterm candidates. Pence has also stood by his decision to refuse Trump’s pressure to overturn the results of the 2020 election, and he has urged the party to move beyond the last presidential contest, drawing sharp criticism from the former president.

“Elections are about the future, and frankly the opposition would love nothing more for conservatives to talk about the past or to talk of the mess they’ve made of the president,” Pence said on a Wednesday afternoon conference call with POLITICO and several other news outlets, where he previewed his policy agenda.

Wow.....as much as I'd like to see that go down in flames, I don't think it's going to get traction. He was never more than a smiling face and a last minute ethical doorstop.

 

[Mark.E]

If he somehow takes the nomination, I'll knock on a thousand doors for Kamala Harris out of spite. The RNC needs to face electoral consequences for trying to drag us back to the Bush era.

 

[Sophrosyne]

The more the merrier in 2024, it was fun seeing so many Republicans fighting for the piece of the pie in the primaries maybe the media on the left will pick another guy that they think can't win and promote him like they did with Trump.
Pence has less chance of being president than Mitt Romney had IMO.

 

[Whyayeman]

... the media on the left will pick another guy that they think can't win and promote him like they did with Trump.

Did that really happen?

A few choice quotations from the media from the period before the 2015 Election would be useful.

 

[hislegacy]

I especially like this part from the link:

And I think by relentlessly focusing on the future we can stop the radical left, we can turn this country around, we can win the Congress and state houses back in 2022, and we can win back America in 2024 and beyond,” he added.

Pence’s agenda does include a section on election reform, in which he calls for mandatory voter identification, a prohibition on in-person voting more than 10 days before an election and says mail-in voting should be “rare.”
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I for one, would vote for him.

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[Sophrosyne]

Did that really happen?

A few choice quotations from the media from the period before the 2015 Election would be useful.

Yes it happened. If you can't see the obsession of the media over Trump that still simmers and boils now it started way back in the primaries.

 

[seeking.IAM]

Pence’s agenda does include a section on election reform, in which he calls for mandatory voter identification, a prohibition on in-person voting more than 10 days before an election and says mail-in voting should be “rare.”

Good old Mike, always standing ready to help us fix problems that don't exist.

 

[FireDragon76]

And in some ways that is what makes Mike such a tragic figure. He clearly believes his faith is real, but the fruit he bears appears rotten to the core. I would dearly love it if Mike actually lived his faith and not some version that allowed him to play a role in the darkest parts of the world while acting as if he is not of this world.

He's someone worthy of Dante's Inferno in terms of the tragic combination of self-delusion and cowardice.