Mexico capitulates to Trump

[iluvatar5150]

Why haven't they done it?

Time, I would imagine.

Yeah, I saw your NYT link where it said "things Mexico largely already agreed to" meaning there's more, and they know there's more, but articles for the "gotcha" people still have to be written. Stopped reading when...

That's a shame. If you'd have held out for just two more paragraphs, you'd have seen that they did, in fact, describe some of the new agreement:

Their promise to deploy up to 6,000 national guard troops was larger than their previous pledge. And the Mexican agreement to accelerate the Migrant Protection Protocols could help reduce what Mr. Trump calls “catch and release” of migrants in the United States by giving the country a greater ability to make asylum-seekers wait in Mexico.

That's not nothing, but neither is it a big new deal that warranted the sort of publicity and threats of a new trade war.

it called him Mr. Trump and not President Trump. Imagine them disrespecting President Obama like that. LOL

yes, imagine...

Sometimes, you guys really do make this too easy:

"Mr. obama" site:nytimes.com - Google Search

(Just to drive the point home, that search filters the results to include only those that were published while he was president.)

 

[TLK Valentine]

Is there a time limit? Does the resistance have to be a certain length of time before it can be capitulation?

Well, however long it was, we've already established that it ended in March. Donald huffed and puffed so that his disciples wouldn't realize that he agreed to potentially billions in foreign aid to Central America.

In fact, one could hardly even call it capitulation when one knows what Donald doesn't want known... that his biggest demand (for asylum seekers to apply from Mexico, and not enter the United States at all) was rejected.

In light of the facts, it seems that the word "compromise" is more appropriate... don't you think?

 

[TLK Valentine]

Hopefully, but it still won't stop Mexicans themselves from crossing illegally.

Nothing will stop that.

However, the vast majority of Mexican illegals enter legally at ports of entry ("I'm a tourist," "I'm just visiting my cousin Pedro in San Jose," "I'm a college student,") and simply disappear once they get in. A wall won't stop that.

The ones who do sneak across do so in ones and twos, not in giant easy-to-spot caravans... and I hate to break it to you, but a wall won't stop them either.

Watch: Fox News host says migrants are "mocking the wall" by walking around it

Imagine how they'll "mock the wall" when they go over, under, or through it?

Now, if Donald seriously thinks that a $200 billion wall is a cost effective way to discourage a small percentage of illegal immigration, his six bankruptcies make a lot more sense. If his followers think so because he says it, their continued worship and reverence for him doesn't make any sense.

Meanwhile, Donald ignores the obvious solution -- E-verify.

Trump ignores practical solution for stopping illegal immigration

The Senate made an effort to address this problem when it passed a comprehensive immigration reform bill in 2013 that included provisions for a mandatory E-verify program. But Republicans in the House refused to allow a vote on the bill. Their failure to act has allowed untold thousands of unauthorized immigrants to secure employment in the intervening years.

And why? Because this would inconvenience businessowners who use illegal labor -- businessowners which include Donald himself.

A pipeline of undocumented workers for Donald Trump ran from Costa Rica to N.J.: 'My whole town practically lived there'

Lawyer: Trump resort hired undocumented workers

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...24486280311_story.html?utm_term=.9c5438077497

Quite the conflict of interest...

...don't you think?

 

[TLK Valentine]

Stopped reading when it called him Mr. Trump and not President Trump. Imagine them disrespecting President Obama like that. LOL

You mean 0bummer, the Kenyan Marxist usurper? LOL indeed.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Nothing will stop that.

However, the vast majority of Mexican illegals enter legally at ports of entry ("I'm a tourist," "I'm just visiting my cousin Pedro in San Jose," "I'm a college student,") and simply disappear once they get in. A wall won't stop that.

The ones who do sneak across do so in ones and twos, not in giant easy-to-spot caravans... and I hate to break it to you, but a wall won't stop them either.

Watch: Fox News host says migrants are "mocking the wall" by walking around it

Imagine how they'll "mock the wall" when they go over, under, or through it?

Now, if Donald seriously thinks that a $200 billion wall is a cost effective way to discourage a small percentage of illegal immigration, his six bankruptcies make a lot more sense. If his followers think so because he says it, their continued worship and reverence for him doesn't make any sense.

Meanwhile, Donald ignores the obvious solution -- E-verify.

Trump ignores practical solution for stopping illegal immigration



And why? Because this would inconvenience businessowners who use illegal labor -- businessowners which include Donald himself.

A pipeline of undocumented workers for Donald Trump ran from Costa Rica to N.J.: 'My whole town practically lived there'

Lawyer: Trump resort hired undocumented workers

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...24486280311_story.html?utm_term=.9c5438077497

Quite the conflict of interest...

...don't you think?

I have always advocated a guarded security fence, with towers, barbed wire, dogs, electronic gadgets. An unguarded wall will never work. It's a edifice to stupidity and waste.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Ah, the NYT at its best. An unnamed source from a secret meeting.

The media’s equivalent of Colonel Mustard in the Library with a candlestick.

Clue -- how appropriate. Donald's supporters just got one.

 

[Goonie]

I have always advocated a guarded security fence, with towers, barbed wire, dogs, electronic gadgets. An unguarded wall will never work. It's a edifice to stupidity and waste.

Hey if you build the same fence between you and Canada you can rename yourself Stalag Luft!

 

[OldWiseGuy]

I sincerely pray for those people and their families who are struggling to find a way for their families to live in such a wicked world, where no one wants to help them, or even cares what happens to them. It makes me think of Christ every time I see them; and his words, what you did to the least of my brethren you did unto me.

How does it help to overload the boat so that it sinks, drowning everyone?

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Hey if you build the same fence between you and Canada you can rename yourself Stalag Luft!

No need. Canadians have skills, education, and speak English.

 

[TLK Valentine]

I have always advocated a guarded security fence, with towers, barbed wire, dogs, electronic gadgets. An unguarded wall will never work. It's a edifice to stupidity and waste.

And a guarded wall is a money pit... or were you not paying attention?

$20 billion is turning into the low end of the estimate... but as long as the business owners aren't inconvenienced, it's all worth it, eh?

 

[TLK Valentine]

How does it help to overload the boat so that it sinks, drowning everyone?

Remember that when the business owners toss you overboard.

 

[FreeinChrist]

No need. Canadians have skills, education, and speak English.

Amid focus on immigration from south, illegal crossings from Canada surge

Driving the increase here, officials say, is the ease of entry into Canada, where visas are no longer required for Mexicans, and a border that receives less scrutiny and resources than the southern border, where thousands fleeing violence in Central America are being detained.
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Who says the immigration from Canada are non-Hispanic whites with education? How many are from the Middle east?

 

[childeye 2]

How does it help to overload the boat so that it sinks, drowning everyone?

Do you think the spirit of the thought above is from the Truth of Christ, or from the lie of Satan?

Here is a fact that you should learn. The United States has been growing it's economy by bringing in a million immigrants every year for the past twenty years. The full-boat scenario is promoting an imaginary fear.

Luke 17:33
Whosoever shall seek to save his life shall lose it; and whosoever shall lose his life shall preserve it.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

And a guarded wall is a money pit... or were you not paying attention?

$20 billion is turning into the low end of the estimate... but as long as the business owners aren't inconvenienced, it's all worth it, eh?

A guarded fence is not only the most effective but also the cheapest alternative.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Remember that when the business owners toss you overboard.

I'm not worried.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Amid focus on immigration from south, illegal crossings from Canada surge

Driving the increase here, officials say, is the ease of entry into Canada, where visas are no longer required for Mexicans, and a border that receives less scrutiny and resources than the southern border, where thousands fleeing violence in Central America are being detained.
​

Who says the immigration from Canada are non-Hispanic whites with education? How many are from the Middle east?

Yikes! Maybe we do need a wall up there.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Do you think the spirit of the thought above is from the Truth of Christ, or from the lie of Satan?

Here is a fact that you should learn. The United States has been growing it's economy by bringing in a million immigrants every year for the past twenty years. The full-boat scenario is promoting an imaginary fear.

Luke 17:33
Whosoever shall seek to save his life shall lose it; and whosoever shall lose his life shall preserve it.

We are already suffering enough "woes" from overcrowded cities.

Isaiah 5:8
Woe unto them that join house to house, that lay field to field, till there be no place, that they may be placed alone in the midst of the earth!

 

[OldWiseGuy]

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[TLK Valentine]

A guarded fence is not only the most effective but also the cheapest alternative.

Unless the guards actually expect to get paid...

 

[childeye 2]

We are already suffering enough "woes" from overcrowded cities.

Isaiah 5:8
Woe unto them that join house to house, that lay field to field, till there be no place, that they may be placed alone in the midst of the earth!

Do you think I'm so stupid as to believe that the scripture above means to let people die who are seeking help?