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Mexico’s president agrees to stop migration into U.S. after tariff threats, Trump says

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Because I will have the same job.
Plus the idea that millions of high paying jobs are going to magically poof into existence the instant tariffs go into effect is, well, magical thinking. I'm reminded of claims that COVID would go away in the spring of 2020, as if by magic. Same thought process, same rude awakening to reality.
 
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No he didn't.
He literally said it: “She has agreed to stop Migration through Mexico, and into the United States, effectively closing our Southern Border.'
 
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I don't see where Trump said Mexico agreed to close the border. Trump said she agreed to stop migration through Mexico.
Effectively closing it. If there is no migration through Mexico then there will be nobody at the border. How is this not as plain as day?
 
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This is what he literally said that she agreed to:

He literally said it: “She has agreed to stop Migration through Mexico, and into the United States,

Here is what we might expect from that agreement:

effectively closing our Southern Border.'


Again, in context, this would effectively close the border to illegal migration through Mexico. You see, Mexico would then become an extension of the border.

Context is key to understanding.
 
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Again, in context, this would effectively close the border to illegal migration through Mexico.
By that's not going to happen. What Trump said was refuted by the Mexicans. The border is not going to be effectively closed. Mexico didn't promise that. Trump is just telling you what you want to hear. If that's all you want, if that's all you need to be satisfied then that's all he'll keep doing. The facts of the matter don't come into it.

What you want to be true and what actually is true are rarely the same thing.
 
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The border is not going to be effectively closed. Mexico didn't promise that.
The border will be effectively closed to illegals migrating through Mexico; and no that's not what Mexico promised. That's just something that people inferred by taking Trump out of context. I can see that it's going to be a long four years of dealing with Left-Wingers taking sound bites and jumping to conclusions.

I dunno. Maybe they're just tired from getting spanked so hard at the polls.
 
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By that's not going to happen. What Trump said was refuted by the Mexicans. The border is not going to be effectively closed. Mexico didn't promise that. Trump is just telling you what you want to hear. If that's all you want, if that's all you need to be satisfied then that's all he'll keep doing. The facts of the matter don't come into it.

What you want to be true and what actually is true are rarely the same thing.
But you just don't understand, Trump was literally speaking figuratively using Trumpian syntax that's key in a different context.
 
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The border will be effectively closed to illegals migrating through Mexico; and no that's not what Mexico promised.
Of course they didn't promise that. But that is literally what Trump said. That the border would be 'effectively closed'. It's not taken out of context as everything he said was quoted.

He's ignoring what actually happened and telling you what you want to hear. How is this not blazingly obvious? It's his SOP. He'll say something that plainly and obviously is not true and suddenly night is day. Black is white. It's a rejection of reality.
 
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Of course they didn't promise that. But that is literally what Trump said
He didn't say that she promised that. You're taking him out of context. Is this intentional?
 
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He didn't say that she promised that. You're taking him out of context. Is this intentional?
You've got the complete statement he made. That's it. That's all of it. The border is not going to be effectively closed. That cannot be stated any clearer. But it's what Trump said. You can parse it any which way you want. This isn't someone's opinion on what someone might think about some hypothetical position. It's an actual statement. In English. The meaning of which is crystal clear.
 
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Yes it will. You just wait and see.
And I'll also wait to see 11 million people being rounded up and expelled from the country as well. Something else that he's told you that he'll do which won't happen.
 
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And I'll also wait to see 11 million people being rounded up and expelled from the country as well. Something else that he's told you that he'll do which won't happen.
How many do you think that he'll get?

I think that we should adopt Obama's 'civilian national security force' policy to get it done. "See something say something," would help too.
 
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How many do you think that he'll get?
I know how many he told you he'll get. And it's another lie. It's not going to happen. Anyone who thinks it's even possible is living in this alternative reality that Trump has constructed.
 
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I know how many he told you he'll get. And it's another lie. It's not going to happen. Anyone who thinks it's even possible is living in this alternative reality that Trump has constructed.
I think that these words will haunt your pipe dreams.

Your speculations are less credible than the possibility that Trump would pop out of Biden's Thanksgiving turkey, dancing to the song YMCA.
 
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I think that these words will haunt your pipe dreams.

Your speculations are less credible than the possibility that Trump would pop out of Biden's Thanksgiving turkey, dancing to the song YMCA.
Address the post, not the poster. He is not the topic.
 
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Drug addicts get all that in prison.
In theory.
Less destructive ignoring drug laws. Seattle is a mess with homeless drug addicts and people are leaving because it isn't safe. What on earth do you think wrecked havoc in the communities in Seattle? You cannot blame "draconian drug laws."

Well, it goes back to stopping the supply at the border.
Sure, it's all "them" and not "us".
So you are advocating for open borders, no enforcement of drug crimes, and a load of wishful thinking to solve the problems of the country. I do not see that happening.
Just stop. Attributing extreme positions to me when I have in no way expressed any advocacy of them is a jerk move. Please knock it off.
It means that not only the Border Control will not only be lifted of the strict restrictions that prevent them from dealing with the cartels, but drug cartels being declared to be terrorists make it legal to shoot them dead on sight. Hence, open terrorist hunting season.
Vigilante justice. Can't see that going wrong.
 
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