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Med Schools Denying Biological Sex

Discussion in 'News & Current Events (Articles Required)' started by rjs330, Jul 31, 2021.

  1. rjs330

    rjs330 Well-Known Member

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    No it doesn't help. There is not a significant change in in the numbers before and after after a period of time. There is an immediate euphoria and a period where they had the surgery and feel like that's going to fix their problems. As it turns out, in the long run it doesn't. They still suffer with the same depressive states they had before.

    The medical field should not now to the agenda and ideology and defy science. It's dangerous and anti medical science.
     
  2. rjs330

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    And it doesn't fix it either. And now they have to deal with a life altering surgery that they thought that would help, but didn't.

    Like I said, as an adult, feel free to get the surgeries if you want. But be informed about it. Know it probably won't make things better for you.
     
  3. FireDragon76

    FireDragon76 Well-Known Member Supporter

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    You are assuming gender dysphoria is the sum-total of the problems transgender people face, and it simply isn't.
     
  4. coffee4u

    coffee4u Well-Known Member

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    You can find other videos by trans people calling for common sense, not just that one.

    Also proof please of this claim.


    PP is a rare physical condition and the child has to be younger than 8. 8 is considered normal, on the younger edge of normal but still normal. They are not having blockers for PP but to ensure they don't start developing at any point from age 8 onwards.
    Precocious puberty - Symptoms and causes
    When puberty begins before age 8 in girls and before age 9 in boys, then it is considered precocious puberty.
     
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  5. rjs330

    rjs330 Well-Known Member

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    It's the most critical.
     
  6. FireDragon76

    FireDragon76 Well-Known Member Supporter

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    According to you... I'm just thankful that the decisions are being left to actual experts, and not to armchair psychologists.
     
  7. Quartermaine

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    I can find videos of people talking about their abduction by aliens...But that doesn't mean i'm going to start thinking that aliens really are visiting earth to collect rednecks to conduct anal probes on them
     
  8. Quartermaine

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    your ongoing attempt to marginalize trans people by saying they are mentally ill is abuse

    Lying about studies on reassignment surgeries is abuse

    Rejecting science because it doesn't support your personal prejudice is abuse
     
  9. rjs330

    rjs330 Well-Known Member

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    If a person has a mental illness it's not abuse to say so. If someone is bi-polar it is not abuse to say so. It a person has depression it is not abuse to say so. It is abuse to tell a person they are not I'll when in fact they are. They just suffer all the more instead of getting the help they need.
     
  10. rjs330

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    Sorry you are incorrect.

    'Sex Reassignment' Treatment Does Not Improve Mental Health - Journal Issues Correction | Women Are Human

    Long-Term Follow-Up of Transsexual Persons Undergoing Sex Reassignment Surgery: Cohort Study in Sweden
     
  11. Quartermaine

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    being transgender isn't a mental illness so your ongoing attempt to marginalize trans people by saying they are mentally ill is abuse
     
  12. Quartermaine

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    what was actually said was that the study didn't seperate out those individuals with a co-morbid mental illness diagnoses and in reanalyzing he data it shows that gender affirming surgery does not impact the co-morbid mental illness. But other factors relating to well being did show improvement and the findings of the study stand.

    This study also showed that transgender individuals receiving follow up care have a suicide rate no different form the general population as well as improvements in other areas of long term mental health.
    from the study:
    "The aim of trans medical interventions is to bring a trans person’s body more in line with their gender identity, resulting in the measurable diminishment of their gender dysphoria. However trans people as a group also experience significant social oppression in the form of bullying, abuse, rape and hate crimes. Medical transition alone won’t resolve the effects of crushing social oppression: social anxiety, depression and posttraumatic stress. What we’ve found is that treatment models which ignore the effect of cultural oppression and outright hate aren’t enough. We need to understand that our treatment models must be responsive to not only gender dysphoria, but the effects of anti-trans hate as well."
     
  13. hedrick

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    This article has a couple of interesting features.

    1) Normally when you look at the effectiveness of a treatment you compare people who were treated with people having the same condition who aren't. This study compared people who were treated with the general population. Thus it's not clear how useful the results are.

    2) They also looked at the results of treatment during two different time periods. The results are instructive. The increase in crime rate was only significant those treated before 1989. Also, "In support of this notion, the survival curve (Figure 1) suggests increased mortality from ten years after sex reassignment and onwards. In accordance, the overall mortality rate was only significantly increased for the group operated before 1989. However, the latter might also be explained by improved health care for transsexual persons during 1990s, along with altered societal attitudes towards persons with different gender expressions.[35]"

    There are other studies that suggest that the mental health of transsexuals is strongly influenced by the attitudes of those around them, particularly family. It is not surprising that the increased acceptance would have a beneficial effect. Conservatives, of course, want to get rid of that progress.

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  14. rjs330

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    It's called Gender Dysphoria. And despite the weaseling out that we've done over the years all trans suffer from it. Cause if you are trying to change your biological sex you are struggling with distress over sex and gender.

    It's clear as a bell to the rest of us. Political correctness has overtaken science and psychology.
     
  15. rjs330

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    Yes the findings do stand, which are they don't really help in the long run.
     
  16. rjs330

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    What progress? We don't believe in being mean to anyone. I have family that suffer from mental illness. I'm not mean to to them. None of us are. I know that trans have sufferd from people, family rejecting them. If we treated transgender like other illnesses as a society, we would be better off.

    We have come a long way in our treatment and understanding of illness. I still think we have a ways to go. But if families really underwood the severity of the this mentally, they might be more understanding. We should be compassionate to those that suffer from this. And if the tans people were treated as such and not as if it's perfectly normal then perhaps they could also find some relief in the situation. We as a society should come to the place that admits this is an illness and we all know and accept it as such and because it is, we will treat these folks with compassion and understanding and so our best to help them. Just like we should do with all illnesses.
     
  17. FireDragon76

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    It's got nothing to do with political correctness. Physicians and mental healthcare workers duties are to the patient's wellbeing, not to political or religious agendas.

    If transitioning or sex reassignment helps their patients cope with life, ethical doctors will go with that.
     
  18. Quartermaine

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    Gender dysphoria is not transsexualism.

    Statistics from the DSM show that about 16% of transsexual will be diagnosed as having gender dysphoria at some point in their lives

    So being transgender isn't a mental illness so your ongoing attempt to marginalize trans people by saying they are mentally ill is abuse
     
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  19. Quartermaine

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    they do stand because they don't say what you are pretending they do.

    a transsexual who suffers from a mental illness such as depression or a bipolar disorder who transitions shows no changes in that mental illness. Other factors in their lives do however improve.
     
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  20. FireDragon76

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    All good points, @hedrick .

    Trans people, especially in the past, dealt with alot of bullying (often of a violent nature), and that shouldn't be discounted when discussing mental health outcomes. Bullying is a risk for suicide and depression.
     
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