"May I" say the Jesus Prayer for other people?

[mcarmichael]

I have a small confession. I've already tried it twice.

In one case, a friend and his family, who have been going through a tough time.
Another case, my employer offended me.

Thank you.

 

[Kenny'sID]

The "Jesus Prayer" as in "Our father who art in heaven...."?

 

[mcarmichael]

The "Jesus Prayer" as in "Our father who art in heaven...."?

This is the Jesus Prayer, as I was taught it: "Oh Lord, Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner."

Perhaps you call it "The Sinner's Prayer"?

 

[Kenny'sID]

All I can relate it to is Christs "Father forgive them for they know not what they do".

As far as it doing any good for us to ask forgiveness for someone else, good question...maybe someone has some more scripture on the subject.

 

[ArmyMatt]

according to St Porphyrios, yes you can

 

[Kenny'sID]

Is there scripture on that, Matt?

 

[seeking.IAM]

I do, but I omit, "...a sinner." Yes, I know we are all sinners, but it feels judgmental for me to label someone a sinner while praying for them. So, I pray, "Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on John Doe."

 

[All4Christ]

Is there scripture on that, Matt?

Why wouldn't we be able to pray for eachother, especially for salvation? Scripture talks about praying for others throughout the entire Bible.

 

[Kenny'sID]

Why wouldn't we be able to pray for eachother, especially for salvation? Scripture talks about praying for others throughout the entire Bible.

No reason we shouldn't pray for others, matter of fact we should, but the subject was can someone other than the sinner pray for forgiveness for that sinner and will forgiveness be granted by God.

 

[mcarmichael]

No reason we shouldn't pray for others, matter of fact we should, but the subject was can someone other than the sinner pray for forgiveness for that sinner and will forgiveness be granted by God.

Nothing quite so technical actually.

 

[ArmyMatt]

Is there scripture on that, Matt?

sure, pray without ceasing

 

[All4Christ]

No reason we shouldn't pray for others, matter of fact we should, but the subject was can someone other than the sinner pray for forgiveness for that sinner and will forgiveness be granted by God.

I don't think anyone would necessarily say that we are asking for forgiveness in lieu of personal repentance. However, God can soften a person's heart, and He can work in many ways. Honestly, we don't limit what God can do. We pray, however, out of love.

I'm guessing that you pray for the unsaved to find God, right? Essentially, you are praying for God to have mercy on them, but not in lieu of them asking for God's mercy as well.

Also, asking for mercy isn't just asking for forgiveness of sin.

 

[mcarmichael]

I'm guessing that you pray for the unsaved to find God, right? Essentially, you are praying for God to have mercy on them, but not in lieu of them asking for God's mercy as well.

Also, asking for mercy isn't just asking for forgiveness of sin.

Assume nothing. I've yet to say a prayer for anyone's salvation, other than a dog named "Benji".

Anyone living, I meant. I think I prayed a prayer at my father's funeral. If not, I did later.

 

[ArmyMatt]

St Porphyrios says just tell God you are including everyone when you begin, and then just pray the Jesus Prayer

 

[mcarmichael]

St Porphyrios says just tell God you are including everyone when you begin, and then just pray the Jesus Prayer

That was my next question.

 

[mcarmichael]

So maybe?

 

[FenderTL5]

isn't "Lord have mercy" the response to intercessory in the liturgy?

 

[mcarmichael]

I mean, isn't the point of intercessory prayer that somebody need intercessory prayer?

 

[mcarmichael]

It's so easy to do, idk...

Like, in lieu of anything better, what's wrong with it?

 

[mcarmichael]

isn't "Lord have mercy" the response to intercessory in the liturgy?

Yes.