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Featured Matthew 25 Jesus Returns In Final Judgment, Eternal Kingdom

Discussion in 'Eschatology - Endtimes & Prophecy Forum' started by Truth7t7, Nov 14, 2017.

  1. Truth7t7

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    Matthew 25:31-46 clearly teaches at the "Second Advent" the Final Judgment and Eternal Kingdom will take place.

    "These Shall Go Away Into Everlasting Punishment: But The Righteous Into Life Eternal."

    Verses 31-32 Jesus returns in glory with the Holy Angels, the Nations are gathered before the throne. The Final Judgment is seen in verse 46, wicked "Eternal Punishment" righteous "Eternal Life"

    Verse 34 The kingdom presented is the "Eternal Life Kingdom" :)

    Matthew 25:31-46KJV
    31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:
    32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:
    33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
    34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
    35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:
    36 Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.
    37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?
    38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?
    39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?
    40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.
    41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
    42 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:
    43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.
    44 Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?
    45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.
    46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

    The scripture is "Very Clear" at the return of Jesus Christ, the "Final Judgment" and "Eternal Kingdom" takes place :)

    Jesus Christ Is Lord :)

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  2. vinsight4u

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  3. Truth7t7

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    Matthew 25:31-46 is about the return of Jesus Christ in the "Second Advent", resurrection of all, final judgment of all, end of this world, Eternal Kingdom New Heaven, Earth, And Jerusalem:)

    I fully agree that at the return of Jesus Christ 2 Peter 3:10-13 takes place :)
     
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  4. BABerean2

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    Nice work, Brother.

    The only way you can make the premill doctrine work is by ignoring numerous verses.

    2 Timothy 4:1 contains the judgment of both the living and the dead at His appearing.

    In Revelation 11:18 we have the nations, and wrath, and the time of the judgment of the dead.

    Peter was looking for the New Heavens and the New Earth (2 Peter 3:10-13) on the Day of the Lord, when He comes as a thief, which connects the event to 1 Thessalonians chapters 4 and 5.
    The words "we" and "sleep" in 1 Thessalonians 5:10 prove that chapter 5 is connected to chapter 4. The timing of the event at the end of chapter 4 is found at the beginning of chapter 5.


    I have never understood how a proponent of the pretrib doctrine can claim that the "first resurrection" in Revelation chapter 20 is the first bodily resurrection.

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  6. SeventyOne

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    That Throne is here on earth and this is admittance for the worthy into the earthy kingdom. That Throne and the Temple in which it sits is described in greater detail in Zechariah 6:9-15. It is there we learn the one called 'Branch' will come out of His place and build the Temple and sit on the Throne within it, and many people will go help with building it.

    This is an earthly judgement of the living where the determination will be made on who enters the kingdom. There are no dead or already resurrected in scope here.
     
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  9. SeventyOne

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    We'll have to agree to disagree.
     
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  12. BABerean2

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    Mat 25:31  When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory: 
    Mat 25:32  And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats: 
    Mat 25:33  And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left. 

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  13. Truth7t7

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    I don't really understand your claim of living into 1000 years?
     
  14. Truth7t7

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    The temple seen in Zechariah 6 is nothing more than the 2nd Zerubbabel temple 536BC, built after the Babylonian captivity, Joshua was the high priest.

    How can you falsely claim this is a future Millennial Temple?
     
  15. SeventyOne

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    Since Zechariah was written around 520 BC, that seems highly unlikely. And since Jesus didn't sit on a throne in that temple, it also seems even more highly unlikely.
     
  16. Truth7t7

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    "The Very Scripture Itself" tells you those of the Babylonian Captivity.

    Amazing how you disregard the simple truth of scripture?

    Zechariah 6:9-11KJV
    9 And the word of the Lord came unto me, saying,
    10 Take of them of the captivity, even of Heldai, of Tobijah, and of Jedaiah, which are come from Babylon, and come thou the same day, and go into the house of Josiah the son of Zephaniah;
    11 Then take silver and gold, and make crowns, and set them upon the head of Joshua the son of Josedech, the high priest;
     
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  17. SeventyOne

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    I've disregarded nothing. You've disregarded that Zechariah was directed to tell Joshua a prophecy concerning the one who would come 'the Branch' and sit in the temple. That hasn't been fulfilled yet. Try reading all of it.
     
  18. BABerean2

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    Why do we reject the words of the Son of God who revealed that He is the ultimate temple of God?


    Mat 26:61  And said, This fellow said, I am able to destroy the temple of God, and to build it in three days.
     

    Yes, He did.



    Mat 21:42  Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes? 

    Mat 21:43  Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof. 

    Mat 21:44  And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder. 

    Mat 21:45  And when the chief priests and Pharisees had heard his parables, they perceived that he spake of them. 

    He is the "chief cornerstone" of the ultimate temple.



    1Pe 2:4  To whom coming, as unto a living stone, disallowed indeed of men, but chosen of God, and precious, 
    1Pe 2:5  Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ. 
    1Pe 2:6  Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded. 
    1Pe 2:7  Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner, 
    1Pe 2:8  And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed. 


    Peter plainly said that we are also stones in the ultimate temple.

    Why do some of us refuse to use the New Testament writers as our witnesses as to what is found in the Old Testament?

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  19. Truth7t7

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    Zechariah 4:8-9
    The Lord came unto Zechariah and gave him word, he was to prophesy unto "Zerubbabel"
    regarding the 2nd temple, that his hands would lay the foundation, and would "Finish The Building"

    You falsely stated Zechariah's prophecy was after the Zerubbabel temple was built, and you falsely teach the temple seen in Zechariah 6 is a future Millennial Temple, 100% False.

    Zechariah clearly prophesied of the 2nd Zerubbabel Temple, that was to be built and finished by Zerubbabel.

    "Prophecy Fulfilled" :)

    How long will one strive against the very simple truth of Gods words?

    Will you continue to look for a earthly Millennial Kingdom that's found no place in the scripture.

    Men still seek after Atlantis, just another mythological fairy tale.
     
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  20. throughfireytrial

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    What exactly do you mean by second advent of Christ...when He comes again, that is the second coming; His Return. All the holy angels will accompany Him upon that Return and the Judgement will take place...that is the Great Day of the Lord!
    Are you dividing up these instances with wide gaps of time between them?
     
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