Matthew 25:31-46, When Jesus Returns, The Eternal Kingdom Begins.

[Davy]

Looks to me like the so-called "two questions" have been answered many times here already to show that there will be a millennium like Rev.20 directly declares, which is also what the Ezekiel 39-47 chapters are about, and also at the end of Zechariah 14, and many other Bible references.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Looks to me like the so-called "two questions" have been answered many times here already to show that there will be a millennium like Rev.20 directly declares, which is also what the Ezekiel 39-47 chapters are about, and also at the end of Zechariah 14, and many other Bible references.

Yes, that is not in question.

Someone who wants to forcibly make other believe there is not a 1000 year reign as written in Scripture,
has been themselves forcibly made to believe that themselves, for whatever reason.

As long as that error is "the strong man" in the house, and as long as anyone(there are many) wants that particular strong man to live in the house ,
it is unlikely that HE WHO IS STRONGER will be invited in to clean the house.

Free will to believe whatever someone wants to beleive was not taken away by Jesus while Jesus was on earth, nor after His Resurrection.

So, as with many things, and multitudes on earth, prayer looks like the only avenue there may be to help, as words will not and cannot make any difference once the strong man, any strong man like this, is invited in and entrenched in place.
Right ?

 

[Truth7t7]

Looks to me like the so-called "two questions" have been answered many times here already to show that there will be a millennium like Rev.20 directly declares, which is also what the Ezekiel 39-47 chapters are about, and also at the end of Zechariah 14, and many other Bible references.

You never answered the questions, is eternallife seen in Matthew 25:46?

Is Matthew 25:34 the eternal kingdom?

Ezekiel chapters 40-46 is the Zerubbabel temple 536BC

Ezekiel 47:12 is the eternal kingdom seen in Revelation 22:1-5 same river and tree of life.

Zechariah 14 is also the same eternal kingdom, verse 8 river of life present.

 

[Truth7t7]

Yes, that is not in question.

Someone who wants to forcibly make other believe there is not a 1000 year reign as written in Scripture,
has been themselves forcibly made to believe that themselves, for whatever reason.

As long as that error is "the strong man" in the house, and as long as anyone(there are many) wants that particular strong man to live in the house ,
it is unlikely that HE WHO IS STRONGER will be invited in to clean the house.

Free will to believe whatever someone wants to beleive was not taken away by Jesus while Jesus was on earth, nor after His Resurrection.

So, as with many things, and multitudes on earth, prayer looks like the only avenue there may be to help, as words will not and cannot make any difference once the strong man, any strong man like this, is invited in and entrenched in place.
Right ?

You created your own strong man

Jesus clearly teaches in Matthew 25:31-46 the he returns in the final judgment, eternal kingdom.

There will be no future 1000 year kingdom on this earth, where mortals are present hanging out with Jesus

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

There will be no future 1000 year kingdom, where mortals are present hanging out with Jesus

Is this what you 'learned' from the roman catholics ?

 

[Truth7t7]

Yes, that is not in quest

Someone who wants to forcibly make other believe there is not a 1000 year reign as written in Scripture,
has been themselves forcibly made to believe that themselves, for whatever reason.

As long as that error is "the strong man" in the house, and as long as anyone(there are many) wants that particular strong man to live in the house ,
it is unlikely that HE WHO IS STRONGER will be invited in to clean the house.

Free will to believe whatever someone wants to beleive was not taken away by Jesus while Jesus was on earth, nor after His Resurrection.

So, as with many things, and multitudes on earth, prayer looks like the only avenue there may be to help, as words will not and cannot make any difference once the strong man, any strong man like this, is invited in and entrenched in place.
Right ?

You have not answered the fact of scripture, Matthew 25:31-46 Jesus returns with the holy angels, the final judgment, eternal kingdom take place.

Verse 34 "Eternal Kingdom" for righteous
Verse 41 wicked judged eternal lake of fire
Verse 46 righteous obtain "Eternal Life"

"Simple"

No strong man, just exposing the teaching in error, as there will be no future 1000 year kingdom on this earth

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

No strong man, just exposing the teaching in error, as there will be no future 1000 year kingdom on this earth

Is this what you learned from the roman catholic teachings ?

 

[Truth7t7]

You have not answered the fact of scripture, Matthew 25:31-46 Jesus returns with the holy angels, the final judgment, eternal kingdom take place.

Verse 34 "Eternal Kingdom" for righteous
Verse 41 wicked judged eternal lake of fire
Verse 46 righteous obtain "Eternal Life"

"Simple"

No strong man, just exposing the teaching in error, as there will be no future 1000 year kingdom on this earth

Is this what you learned from the roman catholic teachings ?

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

No strong man, just exposing the teaching in error, as there will be no future 1000 year kingdom on this earth

Since this is in line with some teaching other than Scripture, or seems entirely to be from your posts, it doesn't make sense to agree with . No one else I know who is Christian does, at least no one else has said so.

 

[Truth7t7]

Since this is in line with some teaching other than Scripture, or seems entirely to be from your posts, it doesn't make sense to agree with . No one else I know who is Christian does, at least no one else has said so.

The scripture clearly teaches that when Jesus returns, eternal life in the eternal kingdom begins Matthew 25:31-46, very clear, simple, easy to understand

Verse 34 Eternal Kingdom
Verse 46 Eternal Life

Can't be more clear than that

Jesus Christ Is Lord

 

[Truth7t7]

Since this is in line with some teaching other than Scripture, or seems entirely to be from your posts, it doesn't make sense to agree with . No one else I know who is Christian does, at least no one else has said so.

You have no response to the factual scripture presented.

Do the righteous obtain "Eternal Life" in Matthew 25:46, 100% Yes

Do these righteous enter a Kingdom that's eternal in Matthew 25:34 100% yes

When Jesus Christ returns, eternity begins.

There will be no future 1000 year kingdom on this earth, a fictitious teaching in error of scriptural truth.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

You have no response to the factual scripture presented.

No worries.
Whatever amil, or other, doctrine you are trying to pass on, won't be passed on ...
meanwhile, we can rest in and pass to others the GOOD NEWS, the TRUTH, right ?

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

There is only one way to the Father in heaven, to eternal life today,
and that is only and always in and thru JESUS MESSIAH, as HE SAYS.
All Scripture bears Testimony of JESUS.

 

[Davy]

You never answered the questions, is eternallife seen in Matthew 25:46?

Is Matthew 25:34 the eternal kingdom?

Ezekiel chapters 40-46 is the Zerubbabel temple 536BC

Ezekiel 47:12 is the eternal kingdom seen in Revelation 22:1-5 same river and tree of life.

Zechariah 14 is also the same eternal kingdom, verse 8 river of life present.

Yes, Matt.25:34 is speaking of Christ's future eternal Kingdom to come, and it begins at His 2nd coming with the establishing of the Ezekiel sanctuary of the last 9 Ezekiel chapters, especially Ezek.47 with God's River and the tree of life...

We're even foretold of what place on 'this' earth that shall manifest, i.e., in the middleast where today's holy land is:

Ezek 47:8-10
8 Then said he unto me, These waters issue out toward the east country, and go down into the desert, and go into the sea: which being brought forth into the sea, the waters shall be healed.
9 And it shall come to pass, that every thing that liveth, which moveth, whithersoever the rivers shall come, shall live: and there shall be a very great multitude of fish, because these waters shall come thither: for they shall be healed; and every thing shall live whither the river cometh.
10 And it shall come to pass, that the fishers shall stand upon it from En-gedi even unto En-eglaim; they shall be a place to spread forth nets; their fish shall be according to their kinds, as the fish of the great sea, exceeding many.
KJV

And on either side of that River will be the many trees of the tree of life mentioned in Revelation 22:2.

Will the wicked, i.e., the "goats" still be there in that time? Yes...

Rev 22:14-15
14 Blessed are they that do His commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.
KJV

That reveals Christ's future Kingdom on earth begins at His 2nd coming, but it is not yet the new heavens and a new earth timing.

What you and many others confuse is the subject of God's consuming fire. There is a judgment to occur on the final day of this present world when Jesus returns, and that one is NOT the "lake of fire" great white throne judgment. The judgment that will occur on the day of Christ's return will burn man's works off this earth, and Christ's sheep will be separated from the goats, and the wicked will be raised also like our Lord Jesus revealed in John 5:28-29, and the will stand in judgment throughout His Millennial reign like Ezekiel 44 and Rev.20 and Rev.22:15 does show.

After the "thousand years" of Rev.20, is the final battle of Satan when he is loosed one final time to tempt the nations, and then God's great white throne judgment with the wicked finally thrown into the "lake of fire". It is immediately after that when the wicked go into the "lake of fire" and God then creates the new heavens and a new earth time. It is this time when there will be no more temple on earth, and no more sea. But begining with Christ's coming, the cleansing of this earth will start (as Ezek.47 reveals about the waters being healed.)

 

[Davy]

Zech 6:12-13
12 And speak unto him, saying, Thus speaketh the LORD of hosts, saying, Behold the man whose name is The BRANCH; and he shall grow up out of his place, and he shall build the temple of the LORD:

13 Even he shall build the temple of the LORD; and he shall bear the glory, and shall sit and rule upon his throne; and he shall be a priest upon his throne: and the counsel of peace shall be between them both.
KJV

The pop teaching of men on that Scripture tries to apply it spiritually to Christ Jesus, and not literally. They will say this has already been fulfilled by our Lord Jesus when He established His Church and ascended to the right hand of The Father. But no, this event is meant literally, because it is upon an EARTHLY throne which Christ Jesus is to inherit, which is what the throne of David is, an earthly throne over an eternal Kingdom on earth. This is why Rev.11 declares that after the 7th trumpet God and His Son will inherit all the kingdoms of THIS WORLD. The temple that Jesus will build when He returns at His 2nd coming is the one laid out in the Ezekiel 40 through 47 chapters. It involves a sanctuary in the middleast.

 

[BABerean2]

The temple that Jesus will build when He returns at His 2nd coming is the one laid out in the Ezekiel 40 through 47 chapters. It involves a sanctuary in the middleast.

You are agreeing with what the woman at the well said.

What did Jesus say when He corrected her?

Joh 4:19　 The woman saith unto him, Sir, I perceive that thou art a prophet.　
Joh 4:20　 Our fathers worshipped in this mountain; and ye say, that in Jerusalem is the place where men ought to worship.　
Joh 4:21　 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father.　
Joh 4:22　 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.　
Joh 4:23　 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.　
Joh 4:24　 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.　

Jesus told the woman at the well that worship would not be in earthly Jerusalem.

Do you agree with the woman, or with Jesus.

This fact is confirmed below.

Heb 11:15　 And truly, if they had been mindful of that country from whence they came out, they might have had opportunity to have returned.　

Heb 11:16　 But now they desire a better country, that is, an heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for he hath prepared for them a city.　

The Old Testament Saints, like Abraham, are not looking to return to Canaan land.
They are looking for heavenly Jerusalem.
I am looking for the same thing.



A rebuilt temple in carnal Jerusalem is one of the greatest deceptions in the history of the Church.

Christ is now the temple of God, and based on what Peter said in 1 Peter 2:4-10, we are stones in that temple.

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[Truth7t7]

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Zech 6:12-13
12 And speak unto him, saying, Thus speaketh the LORD of hosts, saying, Behold the man whose name is The BRANCH; and he shall grow up out of his place, and he shall build the temple of the LORD:

13 Even he shall build the temple of the LORD; and he shall bear the glory, and shall sit and rule upon his throne; and he shall be a priest upon his throne: and the counsel of peace shall be between them both.
KJV

The pop teaching of men on that Scripture tries to apply it spiritually to Christ Jesus, and not literally. They will say this has already been fulfilled by our Lord Jesus when He established His Church and ascended to the right hand of The Father. But no, this event is meant literally, because it is upon an EARTHLY throne which Christ Jesus is to inherit, which is what the throne of David is, an earthly throne over an eternal Kingdom on earth. This is why Rev.11 declares that after the 7th trumpet God and His Son will inherit all the kingdoms of THIS WORLD. The temple that Jesus will build when He returns at His 2nd coming is the one laid out in the Ezekiel 40 through 47 chapters. It involves a sanctuary in the middleast.

This earth will be dissolved by the Lords fire in judgment at his return, it will fall and not rise again 2 Peter 3:10-13, Isaiah 24:20

 

[Davy]

You are agreeing with what the woman at the well said.

What did Jesus say when He corrected her?

Joh 4:19　 The woman saith unto him, Sir, I perceive that thou art a prophet.　
Joh 4:20　 Our fathers worshipped in this mountain; and ye say, that in Jerusalem is the place where men ought to worship.　
Joh 4:21　 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father.　
Joh 4:22　 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.　
Joh 4:23　 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.　
Joh 4:24　 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.　

Jesus told the woman at the well that worship would not be in earthly Jerusalem.

Do you agree with the woman, or with Jesus.

Well I'm certainly not agreeing with you, that's all. The time when our Lord Jesus said that must be put in perspective, because the 2nd temple was still standing in Jerusalem. That woman was a pagan Samaritan, of the five pagan peoples the king of Assyria transplanted in those lands when God removed all the ten tribes of Israel to captivity. That's who her five husbands represent in our Lord's Message there. Who do you think the 6th one she was then living with represents?

Now you can create your own future heaven all you want, but it won't be reality unless it agrees with ALL of God's Word, and here's a section of God's Word your doctrine of men does not agree with...

Zech 14:17
17 And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain.
KJV

That Scripture is yet to occur today, and will only take place after our Lord Jesus' 2nd coming, for He is That KING being spoken of there in Jerusalem, on earth of course.

 

[Davy]

T

This earth will be dissolved by the Lords fire in judgment at his return, it will fall and not rise again 2 Peter 3:10-13, Isaiah 24:20

Only the surface of the earth will be destroyed, not the whole planet...

Ps 78:69
69 And He built His sanctuary like high palaces, like the earth which He hath established for ever.
KJV

 

[Truth7t7]

Well I'm certainly not agreeing with you, that's all. The time when our Lord Jesus said that must be put in perspective, because the 2nd temple was still standing in Jerusalem. That woman was a pagan Samaritan, of the five pagan peoples the king of Assyria transplanted in those lands when God removed all the ten tribes of Israel to captivity. That's who her five husbands represent in our Lord's Message there. Who do you think the 6th one she was then living with represents?

Now you can create your own future heaven all you want, but it won't be reality unless it agrees with ALL of God's Word, and here's a section of God's Word your doctrine of men does not agree with...

Zech 14:17
17 And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain.
KJV

That Scripture is yet to occur today, and will only take place after our Lord Jesus' 2nd coming, for He is That KING being spoken of there in Jerusalem, on earth of course.

Jesus Christ will dissolve this earth by fire at his return 2 Peter 3:10-13, Malachi 3:2, Luke 17:29-30, 2 Thessalonians 1:7-8, Nahum 1:5, Isaiah 24:20, 1 Corinthians 3:13

This existing earth will pass away Revelation 21:1-5

God creates the earth new Isaiah 65:17-19, Revelation 21:1-5

This earth will fall and not rise again Isaiah 24:20