Mathematics Proves that Evolution Must Be Erroneous

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I gave up after four minutes as it seemed to be about to make the argument that because there are gaps between prime numbers it means that nature is not continuous and therefore evolution can't be a continuous process. Did the video actually go on to make a better argument?

And I almost gave up slightly earlier when they claimed that it was "strange" that every prime number is one more or less than a multiple of six. That's hardly strange if you actually think about it.
 
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I gave up after four minutes as it seemed to be about to make the argument that because there are gaps between prime numbers it means that nature is not continuous and therefore evolution can't be a continuous process. Did the video actually go on to make a better argument?

And I almost gave up slightly earlier when they claimed that it was "strange" that every prime number is one more or less than a multiple of six. That's hardly strange if you actually think about it.
Thanks for watching and for your note. I would encourage you to carry and finish the video. It really does come to a point and you may be surprised how it all ties together.
 
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DNA proves it by it factually being impossible to be random especially knowing that each Race has different birth genetics causing defects that only are specific to each Race.

so if the Hominid is a Species, and then it has Sub Species of different Races/Creeds, and deformities within each Sub Species suffers a specific birth defect ONLY within their own Racial Genetic Code. Proves this outsourcing and specifics to each Sub Species is not Random, but Uniformly Coded like a Program.

And besides, when I went to college and studied the Sciences and Mathematics, the first Book handed out said specifically in the "Preface" that "Do Not take Darwin's Theories as fact, but take the example of how he worked and his methods and apply those to your own studies.

So my first day of Science I knew Darwin was full of Baloney and the Professor gave me a Book claiming so and the Book was headlined and approved by the Science Community of that day.

Of course today, they want you to believe you came from an Ape.

but Even Pew Research Poll, the Poll not just conducted by Scientists, but the questions are formatted from Scientists: claims, the majority of Scientists suffer from 1 or more Psychological Disorders.

this means they are Insane, Mentally Ill, the majority are according to Scientists themselves...and yet, we go to those who are insane for human life's advice lol crazy!!
 
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Thanks for watching and for your note. I would encourage you to carry and finish the video. It really does come to a point and you may be surprised how it all ties together.

It never really ties anything together, because it can't. That content is not worth looking at at all.
 
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Modern Homo sapiens have fully interbreeding populations which means we really don’t have races . What we have are different populations that have small changes due to local environments Localized microevolution. Some human populations have also hybridized with other species of human like with Neanderthals and the Denisovians .
 
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DNA proves it by it factually being impossible to be random especially knowing that each Race has different birth genetics causing defects that only are specific to each Race.

Actually, there are now no biological human races. Race is a social construct, which explains why the number of "races" is different in each society. Nor are there "different birth genetics" for different races. (whatever "birth genetics" might mean)

so if the Hominid is a Species,

Hominids are African apes, including humans. Homo is the genus within Hominidae. Homo sapiens is the species that includes all living humans, and probably many extinct ones like Neandertals and Denisovans (many humans carry genes from these other two races of humans)

and then it has Sub Species of different Races/Creeds, and deformities within each Sub Species suffers a specific birth defect ONLY within their own Racial Genetic Code.

There is no racial genetic code. The Human Genome Project shows that there is more genetic variation within any "race" you might define, than there is between "races."

And besides, when I went to college and studied the Sciences and Mathematics, the first Book handed out said specifically in the "Preface" that "Do Not take Darwin's Theories as fact, but take the example of how he worked and his methods and apply those to your own studies.

Just like gravity. We don't take Newton's theory of gravitation as a fact, either. Evolution is an observed fact. So is gravitation. But the theories that describe them, while still valid, have been amended several times to make them more accurate.

So my first day of Science I knew Darwin was full of Baloney and the Professor gave me a Book claiming so and the Book was headlined and approved by the Science Community of that day.

You didn't learn much, if that's what you took from the preface.

Of course today, they want you to believe you came from an Ape.

We are apes. Technically, we, chimpanzees, and bonobos are an ingroup, with the other African apes being the outgroup.

but Even Pew Research Poll, the Poll not just conducted by Scientists, but the questions are formatted from Scientists: claims, the majority of Scientists suffer from 1 or more Psychological Disorders.

Most scientists I know are more sane than the average person. A study once found that members of Mensa were more prone to anxiety disorders, but Mensa is hardly a good sample for scientists generally.
 
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Actually, there are now no biological human races. Race is a social construct, which explains why the number of "races" is different in each society. Nor are there "different birth genetics" for different races. (whatever "birth genetics" might mean)



Hominids are African apes, including humans. Homo is the genus within Hominidae. Homo sapiens is the species that includes all living humans, and probably many extinct ones like Neandertals and Denisovans (many humans carry genes from these other two races of humans)



There is no racial genetic code. The Human Genome Project shows that there is more genetic variation within any "race" you might define, than there is between "races."



Just like gravity. We don't take Newton's theory of gravitation as a fact, either. Evolution is an observed fact. So is gravitation. But the theories that describe them, while still valid, have been amended several times to make them more accurate.



You didn't learn much, if that's what you took from the preface.



We are apes. Technically, we, chimpanzees, and bonobos are an ingroup, with the other African apes being the outgroup.



Most scientists I know are more sane than the average person. A study once found that members of Mensa were more prone to anxiety disorders, but Mensa is hardly a good sample for scientists generally.



did a quick glance and find much I definitely agree with you on. I asked this same question on another forum and no one refuted or spent much time on the topic of DNA.

so, hominid from Africa means I am a Sub-Species. but you feel we are directly related due to an ancestral relative. does this mean you believe Yah Spoke = the Bang, and then His plan was Evolution by way of Randomness or by way of programmed binary codes? which I feel best explains Inherited Genetics/Traits and the process of Natural Selection?

and to the issue of Race, obviously it has more to do with physical location and local environment. but Biologists are linking specific defects to Race as in this person is of Jewish descent and heritage. Google is filled with those little bundles of tid-bits. and some of those links go to livescience or to other science linked sites.

i did go with what Pew Research claimed on Mental Disorders before also adding that Pew Research has revealed over 51% of those who work in Science or associated to Science believe in a Personal God (Deity). and another PR Poll revealed those who had Faith or believed in some form of God were in better state of Mental Health than those Scientists and average human claiming to be Atheist. <that Poll is what stemmed Richard Dawkins to make the claim that more Atheist commit Suicide because they have no foundation where they release their reality for the idea of something far greater. and of course, the rationalist, is the one offing themselves because of what they see and humanity never able to get better.
 
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did a quick glance and find much I definitely agree with you on. I asked this same question on another forum and no one refuted or spent much time on the topic of DNA.

I'm not a molecular biologist, but I am a biologist, and I can answer some questions.

so, hominid from Africa means I am a Sub-Species.

It means you are in the family of African apes, which includes humans.

but you feel we are directly related due to an ancestral relative.

Common ancestor. We share a common ancestor with chimps and bonobos.

does this mean you believe Yah Spoke = the Bang, and then His plan was Evolution by way of Randomness or by way of programmed binary codes?

Since (as St.Thomas Aquinas noted) God can use contingency as easily as he uses necessity to effect divine providence, it really isn't a meaningful question.

which I feel best explains Inherited Genetics/Traits and the process of Natural Selection?

DNA is not binary. And there's no evidence of programming.

and to the issue of Race, obviously it has more to do with physical location and local environment. but Biologists are linking specific defects to Race as in this person is of Jewish descent and heritage.

The problem for that belief is that even highly endogamous groups like Sephardic Jews are so similar to other humans genetically, that any specific member of the group is as likely to be a better genetic fit with you, than he is to be a good fit with another Sephardic Jew.
 
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DNA is not binary. And there's no evidence of programming.



i mentioned this because i am quoting these 3 individuals from an article i read:


Dr. Francis Collins, director of the Human Genome Project (that mapped the human DNA structure) said that one can "think of DNA as an instructional script, a software program, sitting in the nucleus of the cell."5

Perry Marshall, an information specialist, comments on the implications of this. "There has never existed a computer program that wasn't designed...[whether it is] a code, or a program, or a message given through a language, there is always an intelligent mind behind it."6

Just as former atheist Dr. Antony Flew questioned, it is legitimate to ask oneself regarding this three billion letter code instructing the cell...who wrote this script? Who placed this working code, inside the cell?
 
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Barbarian observes:
DNA is not binary. And there's no evidence of programming.

i mentioned this because i am quoting these 3 individuals from an article i read:

Dr. Francis Collins, director of the Human Genome Project (that mapped the human DNA structure
) said that one can "think of DNA as an instructional script, a software program, sitting in the nucleus of the cell."

But he couldn't show any evidence that it was "programmed?" I know why. For one thing, he knows it wasn't programmed. They just quote-mined him to make it appear otherwise.

Perry Marshall
, an information specialist, comments on the implications of this. "There has never existed a computer program that wasn't designed...[whether it is] a code, or a program, or a message given through a language, there is always an intelligent mind behind it."

Perry has some good ideas, including his acknowledgement that evolution is best scientific explanation for the diversity and similarity of organisms on Earth. But he's wrong about that belief:


Creatures from primordial silicon - Let Darwinism loose in an electronics lab and just watch what it creates. A lean, mean machine that nobody understands. Clive Davidson reports
“GO!” barks the researcher into the microphone. The oscilloscope in front of
him displays a steady green line across the top of its screen. “Stop!” he says
and the line immediately drops to the bottom.


Between the microphone and the oscilloscope is an electronic circuit that
discriminates between the two words. It puts out 5 volts when it hears “go” and
cuts off the signal when it hears “stop”.


It is unremarkable that a microprocessor can perform such a task—except
in this case. Even though the circuit consists of only a small number of basic
components, the researcher, Adrian Thompson, does not know how it works. He
can’t ask the designer because there wasn’t one. Instead, the circuit evolved
from a “primordial soup” of silicon components guided by the principles of
genetic variation and survival of the fittest.
Creatures from primordial silicon - Let Darwinism loose in an electronics lab and just watch what it creates. A lean, mean machine that nobody understands. Clive Davidson reports

Just as former atheist Dr. Antony Flew questioned
, it is legitimate to ask oneself regarding this three billion letter code instructing the cell...who wrote this script? Who placed this working code, inside the cell?

The answer is "no one." God created a world in which the Earth brought forth life as He intended. Most creationists are unwilling to accept a God that wise and powerful.[/QUOTE]
 
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Barbarian observes:
DNA is not binary. And there's no evidence of programming.



But he couldn't show any evidence that it was "programmed?" I know why. For one thing, he knows it wasn't programmed. They just quote-mined him to make it appear otherwise.



Perry has some good ideas, including his acknowledgement that evolution is best scientific explanation for the diversity and similarity of organisms on Earth. But he's wrong about that belief:


Creatures from primordial silicon - Let Darwinism loose in an electronics lab and just watch what it creates. A lean, mean machine that nobody understands. Clive Davidson reports
“GO!” barks the researcher into the microphone. The oscilloscope in front of
him displays a steady green line across the top of its screen. “Stop!” he says
and the line immediately drops to the bottom.


Between the microphone and the oscilloscope is an electronic circuit that
discriminates between the two words. It puts out 5 volts when it hears “go” and
cuts off the signal when it hears “stop”.


It is unremarkable that a microprocessor can perform such a task—except
in this case. Even though the circuit consists of only a small number of basic
components, the researcher, Adrian Thompson, does not know how it works. He
can’t ask the designer because there wasn’t one. Instead, the circuit evolved
from a “primordial soup” of silicon components guided by the principles of
genetic variation and survival of the fittest.
Creatures from primordial silicon - Let Darwinism loose in an electronics lab and just watch what it creates. A lean, mean machine that nobody understands. Clive Davidson reports



The answer is "no one." God created a world in which the Earth brought forth life as He intended. Most creationists are unwilling to accept a God that wise and powerful.
[/QUOTE]




I've always been one who followed the Hebrew thought that Genesis 1:1 was a Proclamation that God had finished something incredible and the heavens (Universe + still increasing in size daily) were claimed to be FINISHED, as was the Earth.
^
that means, Genesis 1:1 was speaking about Peoples on Earth before the Creation of Adam.

that means, Genesis 1:2 explains the "Last, as in Most Recent Ice Age" possibly and the formations of life were all destroyed between Genesis 1:1 and 1:2.

Science explains we today are a combination of our immediate ancestors from previous periods. I can see this with Adam's son going from Adam/Eve and finding himself a wife (another human sect existing outside of the immediate Adam's family)(speaks of "several families outside of Adam's immediate Family).

but then again, i always felt the Creation Story of Adam was specifically mentioned (while other info was kept a mystery)(of the other peoples) because Adam directly leads us to Yeshua.

in other words, people were already existing, but God wanted a "Specific Lineage" directly to the Messiah. This is why Adam is mentioned because in All Lineage Records (which that is what the Bible factually is) lead to king David, and then to the Messiah..

so, I do not believe Adam to be the first ever life form of a human Species. I believe that he is the First life form of a human Species that led to the Hebrew/Muslim Peoples and ultimately to the Messiah.

As a person of Jewish heritage, I would consider myself a part of this lineage as it continued with Mary and through her children into all Peoples eventually.

i see from my Zoologist buddy and partner with Tibetan Mastiffs.
the Tibetan Mastiff is the first ever Species bred from the Wolf som 50,000 years ago by the Peoples in the mountains of Tibet. they were Priests. they bred the Mastiff because at night tigers would come into the village and still infants.

well, 40,000 years pass, and the wolf is bred again with the current Species of domesticated dog breeds we have today.

that makes 3 legs of the wolf
1. wolf
2. mastiff (Tibet)
3. domesticated dogs.

i mingle my Mastiffs with the domesticated dogs, but technically, they are not of the "Same Lineage" from the wolf, and yet, they are both still dogs.
^
that's how i see Adam's son Cain meeting his wife.
from God, we have 2 Peoples existing on Earth but not of the "Same Lineage" until the offspring meet and reproduce.
after reproducing, we have Enoch, who was taken by God before dying a physical death.

but nonetheless, we see that God still saw the 2 Peoples coming together and Blessed it!!
 
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Prime numbers do not support Evolution.

We don't even need prime numbers to show the extrapolations of evolution are irresponsible.

Would you extrapolate 0.00001% of a planet's data as fact if your life depended on it?
 
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I've always been one who followed the Hebrew thought that Genesis 1:1 was a Proclamation that God had finished something incredible and the heavens (Universe + still increasing in size daily) were claimed to be FINISHED, as was the Earth.
^
that means, Genesis 1:1 was speaking about Peoples on Earth before the Creation of Adam.

that means, Genesis 1:2 explains the "Last, as in Most Recent Ice Age" possibly and the formations of life were all destroyed between Genesis 1:1 and 1:2.

Science explains we today are a combination of our immediate ancestors from previous periods. I can see this with Adam's son going from Adam/Eve and finding himself a wife (another human sect existing outside of the immediate Adam's family)(speaks of "several families outside of Adam's immediate Family).

but then again, i always felt the Creation Story of Adam was specifically mentioned (while other info was kept a mystery)(of the other peoples) because Adam directly leads us to Yeshua.

in other words, people were already existing, but God wanted a "Specific Lineage" directly to the Messiah. This is why Adam is mentioned because in All Lineage Records (which that is what the Bible factually is) lead to king David, and then to the Messiah..

so, I do not believe Adam to be the first ever life form of a human Species. I believe that he is the First life form of a human Species that led to the Hebrew/Muslim Peoples and ultimately to the Messiah.

As a person of Jewish heritage, I would consider myself a part of this lineage as it continued with Mary and through her children into all Peoples eventually.

i see from my Zoologist buddy and partner with Tibetan Mastiffs.
the Tibetan Mastiff is the first ever Species bred from the Wolf som 50,000 years ago by the Peoples in the mountains of Tibet. they were Priests. they bred the Mastiff because at night tigers would come into the village and still infants.

well, 40,000 years pass, and the wolf is bred again with the current Species of domesticated dog breeds we have today.

that makes 3 legs of the wolf
1. wolf
2. mastiff (Tibet)
3. domesticated dogs.

i mingle my Mastiffs with the domesticated dogs, but technically, they are not of the "Same Lineage" from the wolf, and yet, they are both still dogs.
^
that's how i see Adam's son Cain meeting his wife.
from God, we have 2 Peoples existing on Earth but not of the "Same Lineage" until the offspring meet and reproduce.
after reproducing, we have Enoch, who was taken by God before dying a physical death.

but nonetheless, we see that God still saw the 2 Peoples coming together and Blessed it!!

This is interesting...

Entities existed before Adam and Eve (but not humans) - these were the trees they were allowed to interact with. Remember what the blind man saw first when his vision was blurry - when the Word of God healed him? He saw entities likened unto trees (the people in front of him); trees are a metaphor for entities, and the "tree" of knowledge of good and evil was an entity that seduced both of them and caused them to fall. They didn't eat an apple, or pomegranate - the tree was an entity giving knowledge of duality.
 
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We don't even need prime numbers to show the extrapolations of evolution are irresponsible.

Since evolution is directly observed, no "extrapolations" are necessary.

Would you extrapolate 0.00001% of a planet's data as fact if your life depended on it?

Depends on the data. If it was 0.00001% of oxygen atoms, that would be a really, really sure thing. You seem to have confused evolution with agencies of evolution, with consequences of evolution. What, exactly, are you trying to talk about?
 
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Since evolution is directly observed, no "extrapolations" are necessary.



Depends on the data. If it was 0.00001% of oxygen atoms, that would be a really, really sure thing. You seem to have confused evolution with agencies of evolution, with consequences of evolution. What, exactly, are you trying to talk about?
There are gaps in nature. Nature is not continuous yet Evolution is. Our mind are not capable of grasping reality and so we make up things like Evolution.
 
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There are gaps in nature. Nature is not continuous yet Evolution is. Our mind are not capable of grasping reality and so we make up things like Evolution.
We have evidence that we study that God gives us. Science does a very nice job of gathering the evidence for us. We can not always trust the stories they make up to explain the evidence. WE need to study the facts for ourselves and draw our own conclusions. Although there really is no conflict between true Science and the Bible. God gave us both and He does not contradict Himself. We can use the Bible to verify Science and we can use Science to verify the Bible. This is why for over 100 years we have used archaeology to verify how accurate and true the Bible is.
 
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Read the Books of Psalms and Isaiah. Pay attention to David and Isaiah naming the "Constellations."

now, here is what is cool:

Psalms and Isaiah are 3500+ years old, speaking about Constellations that Science did not begin observing until Galileo (one of the bigger names).

Today, those same Constellations that David and Isaiah spoke of by calling out their names (not locations, just the names), are the same names being used "currently" for the Constellations we continue observing.

God speaks of more Constellations and the Universe including some of Earth within the factual "Oldest" Book of the Bible, Job.

so, Science has not changed the names or tried to correct the Word of God when viewing Constellations and their patterns. <that's kind of odd that the X-Men mental midgets would let that be on similar terms...
 
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