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Hitler was a Socialist just like the antisemitic Socialists people voted for in Washington. Muslims also fought with Hitler's SS---Hitler and the Mufti.

I realise that Steven Crowder and his ilk would have you believe that rubbish but it just isn't so. The party may have started off as a socialist party and that was long gone in thinking and action by the time he had a tight hold on power. Hitler and his henchman were fascists from the far right.
 
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Video evidence is necessary to help formulate an opinion about the situation. The push to prosecute people for having the video is an attack on transparency veiled as concern for public mentality and protection for the victims.

Humans are very emotional - to a substantial fault. Everything is a possibility for exploitation, and I find it asinine to prosecute someone for a video of an alleged event when there are videos of humans being beheaded online.

Most people are sharing the video to analyze it - since we (the people) are always told 1) the correct story, 2) first [/sarcasm]

The reason for prosecution here is that it robs the terrorist of the chance of an objectively fair trial. No one wants this person to walk free on a technicality. So we ban the video here. Other people in other countries can watch it as much as they like and people here will be able to once the trial is over but for now...
 
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Can anyone quote any peaceful verses from the Qur'an about unbelievers? I'll be waiting..

Actually friend you can prove anything by taking verses out of their context and the work out of it's milieu just as with the OT or the New. Christians object, rightly so, when verses are quoted context-free so why would you do that to another group?
 
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I realise that Steven Crowder and his ilk would have you believe that rubbish but it just isn't so. The party may have started off as a socialist party and that was long gone in thinking and action by the time he had a tight hold on power. Hitler and his henchman were fascists from the far right.
There was nothing conservative or patriotic about the Third Reich. They infiltrated the German churches for the purpose of changing orthodox theology to fit Nazi views. Real German theologians did just fine refuting Nazi witchcraft with true Biblical theology. But fascism doesn't recognize facts and those good German theologians just...disappeared. And's that's how the fascism of the far left works. Germany wasn't a stupid nation. They were a culture enriched with a remarkable Christian past. Hitler was not following orthodoxy when he took over the German churches. He did exactly what Obama did and that is to get his people on the inside, take over the seminaries, start preaching heresy in the guise of righteousness. There is nothing conservative about the takeover of the German churches and there is nothing conservative about how the left, the Democrat Party, are trying to takeover the American churches with all their heresies.

Then there is what I call the Judas Heresy. This is the heresy spread by liberals which claims Christians need to commit mass suicide in order to please God. They bait Christians with "Love thy neighbor as yourself" and use that to put Christians in a passive state so the enemies of America will march right in and kill everyone. Nevermind the fact that our Constitution and Bill of Rights was our Holy Covenant to God, which is how our founders treated it has and how God approved of their works. In our covenant to God called the Constitution, we, like Israel in which our government was modeled after, have been given the right to defend our nation against all enemies foreign and domestic. Islam is the most dangerous enemy of the free world and, once again, fascist lefties are teaming up with muslims for the sole intention of wiping out all Christians and Jews. Indeed, if a Democrat were to win in 2020 there will be a war in this country. We know what the left is about and if they want the country they will have to fight hard in battle for it. Of course, the better armed and most skilled army will win the war which means Democrats will lose everything.
 
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So I'm really curious as to how this all evolved into him being extreme right wing in such a very short period of time? :scratch:

Because right wing anything has to be bad along with believers. It's a narrative they try to push all the the time.
 
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Actually friend you can prove anything by taking verses out of their context and the work out of it's milieu just as with the OT or the New. Christians object, rightly so, when verses are quoted context-free so why would you do that to another group?
There is no taking the Qur'an out of context. Its all interpreted for you. That's what classical tafsirs are for. Not just any muslim is allowed to interpret the Qur'an. But not all verses in the Qur'an require tafsir to understand. Once you know the Qur'an and Sunnah, you can accurately interpret the Qur'an without err. But classical tafsirs do interpret the entire Qur'an verse-by-verse.
 
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Hmm the quran.. way to many times those VERSES just end.. no clue as to what is meant. As Christ would say.. NO LIFE in it. Some get to silly on this.. with people that die get killed. I mean one HAS to say.. NO ONE should be killed ever.... if you don't.. watch out!

What matters is.. DO YOU KNOW JESUS the way the truth and the life. He is the only way. To not know him sorry there is NO getting in! Now some are blind never hearing.. so.. as He said.. there would be no sin!

But what got me in all this.. was the post (somewhere else) people were asking about CHRISITIANS. At 1st I took it the same way.. dude.. how rude man. 49 just died.. yet..... that's not what some were doing.. they were asking.. WHY is the news everywhere reporting this..and they Should but not when Christians die?

So I looked into it..just 2018...holy JESUS! NO ONE is talking about it. Didn't some 30 Christians just die a week or so ago? NO NEWS about! Look hear now were talking about Hitler?

NOT TO SEEM MORE HOLY! Lol.. but can we NOT agree as ONE come before our FATHER that if just 2 of us agree the FAMILYS will hear about Christ died rose for them? And then EXPAND it? Do we REMEMBER HE is out there doing this NONE STOP! Are we? Sorry death is awful.. but SALVATION IS KEY to this! MANY will try to get in.. they wont. So sorry HE MADE the rules.. and there is NEVER a "well ok this one time" that will NEVER happen! He is A JUST GOD that love people MORE THEN ALL OF US put together!

But JESUS is the only way! And Christians are getting more and more pushed out. We live as if we are in HEAVEN HERE! Christians live in CHINA.. IRAN IRAQ JORDAN.. N KOREA! INDIA! In India.. if you just get baptised.. you then are NO LONGER helped by the government. Like here no DL no SS all taken away.. and they STILL Live there and server JESUS CHRIST! In China? DO we care? Really care about our FAMILY out there? DO they KNOW SOMEONE out there HEARS THEM!

How many kids? The girl that crossed the border.. she got out at 18 but MEN for 5 years did what to her? THINK if that was you.. you would believe NO ONE cares ..NO ONE is praying for you. As much as we LOVE MUSLIMS.. if they do not know CHRIST.. HEAR about Him and choose not to believe as with ANYONE they are lost.. these are people a GOD MADE! He works day and night.. CHRIST is praying none stop for us!

Sorry so sorry but what are WE DOING? We are silly as it is.. the only light some will ever see! GIFTS OR NOT..this church or that Church.. JESUS is what matters... do we really believe that if that person next to us.. does not know CHRIST they are lost? Do we even speak?
 
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Um, you have read sharia law right? If your LGBT for example you are put to death. You are saying thats what conservatives want?

So does the Bible. I realize we are all soft these days, but at what point do we stop allowing our children to be corrupted? I mean they have children in drag shows now. Utter degeneracy and it spreads.

I'm friends with many homosexuals, and I have nothing against them as people. But we can't just ignore what the OT prescribed for such behavior. Is it brutal? Yes- but the consequences of allowing it to continue are far worse.

'The Journal of Sex & Married Therapy, in a study of male sex offenders against children, found that one-third of the offenders directed their sexual activity against males. And the Journal of Sex Research found that homosexual pedophiles commit about one-third of the total number of sex offenses against children.

This fact is particularly disturbing. Homosexuals comprise just two percent of the population, yet are responsible for 33% of all child sexual abuse. They offend against children at 16 times the rate of the normal population.

The Archives of Sexual Behavior, in a study of 229 convicted child molesters, found that “eighty-six percent of offenders against males described themselves as homosexual or bisexual.”'
 
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There was nothing conservative or patriotic about the Third Reich. They infiltrated the German churches for the purpose of changing orthodox theology to fit Nazi views. Real German theologians did just fine refuting Nazi witchcraft with true Biblical theology. But fascism doesn't recognize facts and those good German theologians just...disappeared. And's that's how the fascism of the far left works. Germany wasn't a stupid nation. They were a culture enriched with a remarkable Christian past. Hitler was not following orthodoxy when he took over the German churches. He did exactly what Obama did and that is to get his people on the inside, take over the seminaries, start preaching heresy in the guise of righteousness. There is nothing conservative about the takeover of the German churches and there is nothing conservative about how the left, the Democrat Party, are trying to takeover the American churches with all their heresies.

Then there is what I call the Judas Heresy. This is the heresy spread by liberals which claims Christians need to commit mass suicide in order to please God. They bait Christians with "Love thy neighbor as yourself" and use that to put Christians in a passive state so the enemies of America will march right in and kill everyone. Nevermind the fact that our Constitution and Bill of Rights was our Holy Covenant to God, which is how our founders treated it has and how God approved of their works. In our covenant to God called the Constitution, we, like Israel in which our government was modeled after, have been given the right to defend our nation against all enemies foreign and domestic. Islam is the most dangerous enemy of the free world and, once again, fascist lefties are teaming up with muslims for the sole intention of wiping out all Christians and Jews. Indeed, if a Democrat were to win in 2020 there will be a war in this country. We know what the left is about and if they want the country they will have to fight hard in battle for it. Of course, the better armed and most skilled army will win the war which means Democrats will lose everything.

Fascism is not left-wing. Never was and never will be.
 
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Homosexuals are not pedophiles and pedophiles are not homosexuals. Why? Because homosexuality like heterosexuality is a relationship between consenting adults whilst pedophilia is a paraphilia which is between a non-consenting child and an adult?
 
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