Massacres in New Zealand Mosques

[Francis Drake]

A dreadful thing to happen anywhere of course, it is all the more shocking because New Zealand is so peaceful and welcomes all.
The days now are getting shorter before Jesus Christ returns and violence abounds, it will get worse as the Bible tells us.

We must fervently pray for people to turn to the Lord Jesus before its too late.

Dreadful and evil though it is, this massacre is nowhere near the evils that previous centuries have seen, you only have to read a little history to know that.
Things like this are no sign of the second coming, otherwise he would have come during those much worse times.

 

[Francis Drake]

In reference to Hitler, you are absolutely correct about him being a left wing socialist, him, and all the rest of his cronies.

People are so blind, and so greedy, envious for what others have, there sense of entitlement is out of control.

That idea Hitler was extreme right wing was a notion generated by socialists, in order to put clear space between the Nazis and their own similar politics.

The propaganda succeeded beyond measure, with every right thinking person being aligned with the Nazis, even when there is no correlation whatsoever.

 

[Francis Drake]

Everyone on here is condemning the right wing terrorist attack. Have you met anyone in person said this behavior is what Christ wants His followers to do?

Except the man was never right wing, but left.
Right wing is just the usual knee jerk narrative being spun by the press.
In fact the murderer repudiated conservatism and aligned himself with Communist China.

This is from Zerohedge.com
The terrorist gunman who killed 49 Muslims at a mosque in New Zealand said in his own manifesto that he wanted “no part of” conservatism, describing himself as an “eco-fascist” and expressing admiration for Communist China.

Answering the question “Were/are you a conservative?”, Brenton Tarrant wrote, “No, conservatism is corporatism in disguise, “I want no part of it.”

 

[JackRT]

In reference to Hitler, you are absolutely correct about him being a left wing socialist, him, and all the rest of his cronies.

People are so blind, and so greedy, envious for what others have, there sense of entitlement is out of control.

The first people Nazis went after were the communists, the socialists and the trade unionists. Hitler and the Nazis were fascists. According to Benito Mussolini "Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." That IS NOT left wing socialism. If you dislike socialism just say so without the "fake news".

 

[☦Marius☦]

I doubt we would find many (if any) conservative Christians who would condemn Jews like that or the nation of Israel because these right wing Christians have the Jewish people and the nation of Israel up on a pedestal with their unwavering devotional support of them both. I don't know of any conservative evangelical Christians who don't faithfully support the Jews and Israel. They certainly defend both.

There are plenty of conservative Christians who aren't Zionists. That's only really a trend in the Evangelical world.

I'm a Hardline conservative and I support most Muslims over Jews because Muslims are more likely to be conservative. I find it ironic so many conservatives oppose Islam because of sharia when sharia is almost exactly what we conservatives would want. All we would have to do is pay a religious tax.

 

[Francis Drake]

Eco-fascism is actually compatible with the Right.

Nonsense. Eco Fascism is all about central control of production and the economy and people by other means, environmentalism. Its a neat view on socialism peddled by the left, and pseudo rightwingers.

After all, the Nazis had a reverence for nature, similar to some modern neo-pagan groups, who occasionally have rightwing adherents.

Yawn, yet another misled clone who somehow imagines the NATIONAL SOCIALIST GERMAN WORKERS PARTY, (yes the Nazis were all socialist workers), were somehow right wing.

If that's true, the Bernie Sanders is a republican, and Jeremy Corbyn is a Tory.

 

[Shiloh Raven]

There are plenty of conservative Christians who aren't Zionists. That's only really a trend in the Evangelical world.

I'm a Hardline conservative and I support most Muslims over Jews because Muslims are more likely to be conservative. I find it ironic so many conservatives oppose Islam because of sharia when sharia is almost exactly what we conservatives would want. All we would have to do is pay a religious tax.

I should have been more specific on defining which conservatives I was referring to. My apologies.

 

[Shiloh Raven]

The first people Nazis went after were the communists, the socialists and the trade unionists. Hitler and the Nazis were fascists. According to Benito Mussolini "Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." That IS NOT left wing socialism. If you dislike socialism just say so without the "fake news".

Your response to the other post reminded me of this quote: "When fascism comes to America it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." I don't know who to credit the quote to though.

 

[☦Marius☦]

Nonsense. Eco Fascism is all about central control of production and the economy and people by other means, environmentalism. Its a neat view on socialism peddled by the left, and pseudo rightwingers.

Yawn, yet another misled clone who somehow imagines the NATIONAL SOCIALIST GERMAN WORKERS PARTY, (yes the Nazis were all socialist workers), were somehow right wing.

If that's true, the Bernie Sanders is a republican, and Jeremy Corbyn is a Tory.

You realize that there is more than one kind of left wing right? There is economic left wing, and then there is moral left wing.

The Nazis were morally right wing, while being economically left wing.

 

[JackRT]

Your response to the other post reminded me of this quote: "When fascism comes to America it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." I don't know who to credit the quote to though.

That was Sinclair Lewis in "It Can't Happen Here," (1935). He was completely correct.

 

[Shiloh Raven]

That was Sinclair Lewis in "It Can't Happen Here," (1935). He was completely correct.

Well, Snopes stated that it wasn't Sinclair Lewis. I googled the quote.

 

[JackRT]

The Nazis were morally right wing, while being economically left wing.

Are you suggesting that the moral right wing is genocidal? Just asking.

 

[☦Marius☦]

Are you suggesting that the moral right wing is genocidal? Just asking.

No? I'm not even sure how that would be implied.

 

[JackRT]

Well, Snopes stated that it wasn't Sinclair Lewis. I googled the quote.

Nice catch! It is so easy to be fooled on the internet. We need to keep each other honest.

 

[anna ~ grace]

This was a horrible, horrible event. Awful. No one deserves to be shot to death while praying. This is disgusting, and sad. Christ, have mercy on all innocent souls killed, injured, and grieving. Insane. Wicked. Evil.

Blessed Brother Charles de Foucauld please pray for us, and them.

 

[Albion]

You realize that there is more than one kind of left wing right? There is economic left wing, and then there is moral left wing.

The Nazis were morally right wing, while being economically left wing.

The first part of that last line is really difficult to substantiate. A regime that has no regard for any rights to life and property does not represent some "morally right wing."

 

[JackRT]

No? I'm not even sure how that would be implied.

The Nazis were genocidal against the Jews, the Gypsies, homosexuals, etc. and then you said that they were morally right wing. You set up the connection.

 

[☦Marius☦]

The first part of that last line is really difficult to substantiate. A regime that has no regard for any rights to life and property does not represent some "morally right wing."

I'm not sure while property ownership is a requirement for morality, however socialism does not ban property ownership.

You seem to make the assumption that "right" is synonymous with "good", when I'm reality it is synonymous with control. Sunni Muslims are morally right wing it doesn't mean every belief they have is good by Christian standards.

 

[☦Marius☦]

The Nazis were genocidal against the Jews, the Gypsies, homosexuals, etc. and then you said that they were morally right wing. You set up the connection.

See above.

 

[Archivist]

Despite the popular narrative of "extreme right wing", Adolf Hitler was never right wing, but always left wing, ie. a socialist through and through.
The clue is in the name, THE NATIONAL SOCIALIST GERMAN WORKERS PARTY. ie. The Nazis were all socialist workers!
Hitler constantly spoke about his socialist plans and achievements in Nazi Germany.

That's because its left wing not right.
This quote from Zerohedge,com reveals a little more -
"The terrorist gunman who killed 49 Muslims at a mosque in New Zealand said in his own manifesto that he wanted “no part of” conservatism, describing himself as an “eco-fascist” and expressing admiration for Communist China."

Answering the question “Were/are you a conservative?”, Brenton Tarrant wrote, “No, conservatism is corporatism in disguise, “I want no part of it.”

Sounds closer to Bernie that Trump, but of course, you'll never get this on the mainstream media, as they have an agenda which blames Trump for every evil.

What does that have to do with the topic?