Mary as the "New Eve"

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When we read the message found in the ancient Italian newspaper article called Against Heresies 3, 22 .............

We find that this teaching and ideology is not based upon what the Bible narrative tells us.

the Bible says, concerning Mary - that Her virginity was not what she was planning -

Mary was planning sex, planning a marriage, planning to have sex and planning to marry a man.

How can one hold to a tradition where Catholics and Muslims only focus in on - tiny phrases and partial sentences and selected words to attempt to change, ignore the true message and meanings, in order to re- write and over - ride and downplay the rest of the actual message storyline throughout the entire Bible.

Mary was planning, plotting wanting sex and Joseph was planning marriage and sex too. And Joseph was instructed to not be afraid to get married and

in other words, Joseph was planning on putting away his fiance and putting off the marriage - Joseph was worried and hurt because in his mind - mary had already had sex with someone and in the mind of Joseph, Mary had cheated and had sex behind his back, Mary had cheated on him and committed adultery and fornicated and now was suddenly pregnant.

Joseph was hurt, worried and even in fear and anxiety - His new wife was adulterous and had committed adultery against him and against God.

But the Angel of God knew exactly what Joseph was feeling and planning and the Angel told him DO NOT FEAR getting married and having SEXUAL RELATIONS because there was no sexual act between Mary and another man beside him, the child conceived in His new { to be } wife was from the Holy Spirit.

The Bible explains that Joseph did not know Mary sexually UNTIL after - that Mary had borne Her firstborn son.

How is it that Roman Catholics completely ignore so many facts in the Bible?

The Bible makes it clear - Joseph and Mary were plotting, planning and preparing to get married and Joseph was fearful /afraid to take Mary as a wife because she was already pregnant.

Joseph and Mary were not planning to abstain from sex . Mary was not GUARDING HER VIRGINITY.

are we supposed to believe that Joseph was marrying " Mary " SIMPLY FOR THE CHANCE TO HAVE SEX WITH HER. In other words having sex and being intimate - was not what Mary had purposed in her mind for her purpose in getting married.

IT WAS JOSEPH ALONE - who was planning to have sexual relations in the upcoming marriage. ? and he was going to marry a woman who was really secretly planning to GUARD AND PRESERVE her virginity and abstain from sex for her lifetime ?

They both were worried about their sexual relationship and marriage and sexual future because Mary's sexuality and pregnancy was a very important matter in the relationship because Joseph thought she was already pregnant with someone else’s baby and had lied about the sexual activity.

Joseph was upset and afraid, - He was planning on putting her away and terminating the marriage. - THIS IS THE ENTIRE POINT of the message of The Angel telling Joseph DO NOT FEAR getting married and TAKING MARY - as a wife. FOR SEXUAL RELATIONS.

Why have the Roman Catholic and Islamic Mosques - simply added these false things and untruths directly upon the Biblical narrative and have they completely changed the focal and central message of God’s word - as they focus in one a tiny fraction of the story and ELEVATE and EXAGGERATE and MAGNIFY only a tiny portion or phrase, while they totally ignore the real reason that Mary was Chosen. The Angel never mentioned Mary's virginity as important, to her being chosen........... Mary was planning sex. And the Angel Commanded Joseph to " not be afraid - to go ahead with the Marriage plan " Take Mary in sex as a wife. DONT BE AFRAID.

Why not tell the real - full story of the Bible as the Angel and Holy spirit told it ?

Can You understand why Non Catholics and Non-Muslims wonder why that - everything that Catholics and Muslims believe - must be lifted, out of context, and exaggerated and twisted manipulated selected portions out of the Bible as a totally radically and the altered storyline is added - that is all tradition, imagination " made up, after the fact - stories " - ( NEW PROPHECY AND NEW REVELATIONS ) while they totally ignore and dismiss and literally - deny - or downplay - the original meaning and content and the entire rest of the Bible message ?

Does the real story have no part of the Catholislamic faith. The Quran also says that Mary was Guarding Her Virginity - BUT WE FIND that Mary was not concerned with guarding anything concerning virginity. Nor was the Angel concerned about Joseph having sexual intimacy with his wife. The Angel told Joseph to not be afraid about the pregnancy - and to take mary as his wife. LITERALLY - CONCERNING SEX AND BEING PREGNANT AND THE FUTURE OF SEXUAL MATTERS.

Please help me to understand the Catholislamic perspective..




Even though Eve had Adam for a husband, she was still a virgin... By disobeying, she became the cause of death for herself and for the whole human race. In the same way, Mary, though she also had a husband, was still a virgin, and by obeying, she became ~the cause of salvation~ for herself and the whole human race... The knot of Eve's disobedience was untied by Mary's obedience. What Eve bound through her unbelief, Mary loosed by her faith. (Against Heresies 3, 22).

 

[faith confidence hope]

I am not sure what the Catholic Church teaches about the 144,000 Virgins of Revelation Rev_14:4.

But there are many Catholics and Protestants who believe the 144,000 Virgins are all strictly male sex.

I do not believe the Bible teaches that the 144,000 Virgins are males nor does the Bible nor Hebrew Tradition have any concept of a male virgin.

but if not having sex will make an individual potentially closer to God - as Roman Catholics believe, this did not help Adam and Eve who were not even born from a sexual conception.

Both Adam and Eve were neither born from a sexual act. They were created and given life and there was no sex involved in their creation.

instead of - Immaculate Conception - Adam and Eve were Immaculately Created.

Yet even though Adam and Eve both had never had sex and they were not born or created from a sexual act _ this did not help them or prevent them from committing sin. this did nothing for them.

Don't you think that it is foolishness, to place such paganistic focus upon the idea of perpetual lifetime virginity ? This is what the Pagan World focused upon - this focusing upon the importance of lifetime celibacy. But this has no value in the Bible. Especially when the Bible explicitly describes that Mary did not have sexual relations with her husband until after her firstborn son was born.

And especially when the Bible explains that the Angel Of God commanded Joseph to not be fearful about Mary being pregnant and to go ahead and take Mary as a wife - and have her as a wive, because she had not been impregnated by a sexual act. This entire concept absolutely has no value or meaning in the BIble. And there are no male virgins in the Bible.

Yet, even though Adam and Eve both had never had sex and they were not born or created from a sexual act _ this did not help them or prevent them from committing sin. this did nothing for them.