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Martial Law may be coming

Discussion in 'Current News & Events (Articles Required)' started by Original Happy Camper, Dec 3, 2020.

  1. Original Happy Camper

    Original Happy Camper One of GODS Children I am a historicist Supporter

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    Michael Flynn Promotes Petition Calling On Trump To Suspend The Constitution And Declare Martial Law

    The letter accompanying the petition said Trump must be prepared to act as former President Abraham Lincoln did at the onset of the Civil War in the early 1860s, including:

    • Ordering “hundreds of Northern newspapers that spoke against him to be shut down and their owners and editors arrested.”
    • Ordering the arrest of an Ohio congressman “for the crime of speaking out against him.”
    • Signing an arrest warrant for the then-Chief Justice of the Supreme Court who ruled that Lincoln had illegally suspended the Writ of Habeas Corpus.
    • Ordering the arrest of thousands of Maryland citizens “for the crime of ‘suspected Southern sympathies,”‘ some of whom were held in military prisons without trial for years.

      Michael Flynn Promotes Petition Calling On Trump To Suspend The Constitution And Declare Martial Law

    This has religious implications as it would suspend the first amendment IE
    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
     
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  2. Brightmoon

    Brightmoon Apes and humans are all in family Hominidae.

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    Flynn could still be charged with sedition and/ or treason . Trump’s pardon won’t cover him after Jan 20
     
  3. Arc F1

    Arc F1 Let the righteous man arise from slumber Supporter

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    Times have changed. I don't think that's a good idea.
     
  4. martin-luther2

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    I wouldn't be surprised if Trump floats the idea.
     
  5. Petros2015

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    Michael Flynn - Wikipedia

    Looking over Flynn's resume'

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    Michael Thomas Flynn (born December 24, 1958) is a retired United States Army lieutenant general who was the 25th National Security Advisor[2] for the first 22 days of the Trump administration until his resignation. Flynn's military career included a key role in shaping U.S. counterterrorism strategy and dismantling insurgent networks in the Afghanistan and Iraq Wars, and he was given numerous combat arms, conventional, and special operations senior intelligence assignments.
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    Ok, well that would certainly be useful in a Martial Law situation
    Pretty sure you are going to have A LOT of insurgent networks if you suspend the Constitution to try and maintain your Presidency. Can't speak for others, but I would immediately join one lol. Call me a Patriot, I guess...

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    After leaving the military, he established Flynn Intel Group, which provided intelligence services for businesses and governments, including in Turkey.[9][10] In 2017, Flynn registered as a foreign agent, acknowledging that in 2016 he had conducted paid lobbying work that may have benefited Turkey's government.[11] Flynn served as a senior advisor to Trump during his 2016 presidential campaign. On January 22, 2017, Flynn was sworn in as the National Security Advisor.[12] On February 13, 2017, he resigned after information surfaced that he had misled Vice President Mike Pence about the nature and content of his communications with Russian ambassador to the United States Sergey Kislyak.[13][14][15]

    Flynn's tenure as the National Security Advisor is the shortest in the history of the position.[16][17]
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    lol. That went well...

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    In December 2017, Flynn formalized a deal with Special Counsel Robert Mueller to plead guilty to a felony count of "willfully and knowingly" making false statements to the FBI, and agreed to cooperate with the Special Counsel's investigation.[18] In January 2020, Flynn moved to withdraw his guilty plea, claiming government vindictiveness and breach of the plea agreement.[19] The United States Department of Justice announced that it intended to drop all charges against Flynn on May 7, 2020.[20] Federal district judge Emmet G. Sullivan ruled the matter to be placed on hold.[21] On November 25, 2020, Flynn was issued a presidential pardon.[22] Since being pardoned, Flynn has expressed his support for suspending the United States constitution and the imposition of martial law under President Donald Trump. [23]
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    Sounds like Flynn is hoping for a new job position. "Head of Martial Law and Constitution Suspension Strategies under President-Deposed Trump". Well, if you are going to suspend the Constitution and try a coup on US Democracy, I guess it would be very handy to have a few experienced and extremely loyal generals on your side (pardoning them will do that :).

    I'll tell you what, Mr. Flynn. You are correct. You seem to be the man for the job. You are provisionally hired for when the coup starts.

    In the meantime, enjoy your new Sedition charges, Sir.
     
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  6. Petros2015

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    BTW, how many people have signed this petition?

    Here is a take on it from militarytimes.com. I don't know too much about the source but I believe it to be a fairly neutral one that servicemen and women would read

    Calls for martial law and US military oversight of new presidential election draws criticism

    The idea is “preposterous,” said Bill Banks, a Syracuse University professor with expertise in constitutional and national security law.

    “Apart from the fact that state and now federal investigators have found no evidence of election fraud that would change the election outcome, martial law has no place in the United States absent a complete breakdown of civil governing mechanisms,” he told Military Times.


    Here is
    https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/
    I hadn't looked at it in a while, it's pretty hilarious to see what is floating currently there, but I don't *think* this petition is on that site?

    upload_2020-12-3_9-48-57.png


    Here is the actual petition signup for "Limited" Marshal Law, if anyone would like to sign it. I assume "Limited" is meant to imply that it applies only to people who don't agree with you lol. But I wouldn't bet on that by the end of it if you are someone who would actually sign this...

    WTPC Calls for Trump to Declare Limited Martial Law | We the People Convention

    I love the little scare/fear blurb on the side just under Tucker:
    upload_2020-12-3_9-46-20.png

    So, yes please. Sign up, stand up, and be counted.
    Perfect Love casteth out all Fear
    And Perfect Fear casteth out all Love
    And Practice...
    Practice makes Perfect
     
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  7. Petros2015

    Petros2015 Well-Known Member

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    Oh? And BTW Tucker...

    First they came for the lies, and we did nothing.
    Then they came for the pundits selling the lies
    And I said "OK. I'm in." :)
     
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  8. Brightmoon

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    CNN has refused to air trump’s latest rant citing lies and calls for revolt against the government. I’m not surprised about either the lies or the call for disruption and destruction for America . He’s a malignant narcissist and we rejected him !
     
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  9. Kenny'sID

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    CNN?

    I'm heart broken. Lol
     
  10. Brightmoon

    Brightmoon Apes and humans are all in family Hominidae.

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    Well I stopped believing anything Faux News said a while ago.
     
  11. Petros2015

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    This one, I guess?
    Statement by Donald J. Trump, The President of the United States

    or was it this one?


    At 0:38 he got something right - "As President I have no higher duty..."
    Correct!
    That's the definition of a PRESIDENT.
    You Sir, are not of those.

     
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  12. Wolseley

    Wolseley Beaucoup-Diên-Cai-Dāu

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    This country is more divided than it's been since 1860---and I see no hope of reconciliation between the hostile opposing viewpoints.

    Frankly, I think it may be time to choose up sides and have at it.
     
  13. Petros2015

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    Luke 12:51
    Do you think that I have come to bring peace to the earth? No, I tell you, but division.

    Matthew 10:34
    Do not assume that I have come to bring peace to the earth; I have not come to bring peace, but a sword.

    *sighs* I remember the Charlie Brown Christmas special when I was little.


    "suddenly there were angels singing Glory to God in the highest and on earth peace goodwill to all men"

    Luke 2:14
    KJV: "Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace, good will toward men."

    NIV: "Glory to God in the highest heaven, and on earth peace to those on whom his favor rests."

    Hmmm.

    Douay-Rheims: "Glory to God in the highest; and on earth peace to men of good will."
    (DR is favored by a lot of Catholics, I quite like it in some places and certainly makes for some interesting comparisons)
    Douay–Rheims Bible - Wikipedia

    That last translation... a declaration of "peace to men of good will"
    Doesn't sound much like the Linus interpretation.
    If it's a declaration of "peace to men of good will"
    And not "peace, good will to all men"
    Then...
    What is it a declaration of
    To everyone else?

    But I think Jesus answered that in the two verses I started with.
     
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  14. Wolseley

    Wolseley Beaucoup-Diên-Cai-Dāu

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    "You shall hear of wars, and rumors of wars; do not be alarmed, for these things must come to pass."
    ---
    Matthew 24:6
     
  15. JimR-OCDS

    JimR-OCDS God Cannot Be Grasped, Except Through Love

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    Actually the nation was divided even more during the 1800 election between Adams and Jefferson.

    The Federalist, which eventually became the Democratic Party, tried to get electors to cast their EC votes for Barr, so Jefferson wouldn't become president.

    The Federalist Party led by Alexander Hamilton and President John Adams, advocated that the United States have a hereditary monarchy, like that in England.

    The Republican Party led by Madison and Jefferson rejected such an idea.

    The nation was split and of course, the attacks and threats to the life of Jefferson were real.
     
  16. Arcangl86

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    The Federalist Party didn't become the Democratic Party. It went out of existence, and the Democratic-Republican Party of Madison and Jefferson split into the Democratic Party and the Whig Party. The Whigs later formed the base of the Republican Party. So both parties can trace themselves to Jefferson's party.
     
  17. Sistrin

    Sistrin We are such stuff as dreams are made on... Supporter

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    The Democrats have already suspended the first amendment in a variety of instances, are eager to continue that trend and have been eager to do so for many years.

    You are a little late vexing over what Flynn may have said.
     
  18. JimR-OCDS

    JimR-OCDS God Cannot Be Grasped, Except Through Love

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    Then you'll have to take it up with Jon Meacham, author of "Thomas Jefferson: The Art of Power." He wrote it in his book which I'm currently reading.
     
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