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Marriage is permissible GOD did it!

Discussion in 'General Theology' started by Christambassador1968, Jul 19, 2018.

  1. Christambassador1968

    Christambassador1968 New Member

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    GOD himself divorced Israel. Yes, it was always part of his plan to take the light to the gentiles, which is his church. GOD had to cause Israel to sin so that he could implement his coming plan for his church. Where did GOD divorce Israel? Jeremiah 3:8;
    So yes, GOD did Divorce Israel. He had to in order to divorce Israel and be able to marry his church. Well, some might say, "that's evil, GOD would never do that!" are you certain? GOD creates evil...
    Still NOT convinced?

    How about Job? What did he say AFTER losing everything?
    Then this;
    Emphasis mine...

    So let's see what GOD's law says... remember the LORD says, "I CHANGE NOT! Malachi 3:6
    So Pastors are creating a double-standard by saying men cannot teach in the pulpit if they have ever been divorced. GOD cannot deny himself nor contradict his law by word or action... period!

    So why are Pastors lying to people?
     
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  2. Christambassador1968

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    I'm sorry, I messed up the title.. should read Divorce is permissible GOD did it!
     
  3. SolomonVII

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    Ought not the title of the thread be the contention that divorce is permissible to God?
     
  4. SolomonVII

    SolomonVII Well-Known Member

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    Oh, little slow on my typing skills I see.
     
  5. Strong in Him

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    God didn't HAVE to make Israel sin; they did that on their own. God never wanted the nation to turn from him and worship idols; that's why he condemned and punished them when they did so - and yet restored them when they repented.
    He didn't have to make Adam sin; Adam chose to disobey.

    If sin was part of God's will and plan, why would he punish people for doing it? Why not reward them for doing his will?
     
  6. Sam91

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    God wasn't one flesh with Israel? Man and wife are. I think that the divorce he is referring to was figurative. So the would understand how they had acted and why punishment was coming.

    Being in captivity in Babylon made them more faithful when they returned to Israel. He was with them in that. The Bible says a man who divorced his wife should not remarry her. So again, it is figurative.
     
  7. Chinchilla

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    God divorced Israel but he did no go fornicate with other women.
    You can divorce but if you marry another you commit adultery.

    God only took another bride - gentiles bride after he died because when one of person dies in marriage the other is free from bondage of marriage .
     
  8. bcbsr

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    Valid point. Since God got divorced seems He would falsely be disqualified from ministry, according to the standards of some church officials. Divorce doesn't constitute adultery. Remarriage after divorce constitutes adultery as divorce doesn't nullify a marriage. And thus an elder must be the husband of but one wife. Regarding Jer 3:8, notice that even while divorced God views himself as still a husband to Israel. ""Return, faithless people," declares the LORD, "for I am your husband. " Jer 3:14 So the divorced should not be disqualified. The remarried after divorced should be disqualified.
     
  9. grasping the after wind

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    Matthew 19:1-12 1When Jesus had finished saying these things, he left Galilee and went into the region of Judea to the other side of the Jordan. 2Large crowds followed him, and he healed them there. 3Some Pharisees came to him to test him. They asked, "Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife for any and every reason?" 4"Haven't you read," he replied, "that at the beginning the Creator 'made them male and female,' 5and said, 'For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh'? 6So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate." 7"Why then," they asked, "did Moses command that a man give his wife a certificate of divorce and send her away?" 8Jesus replied, "Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because your hearts were hard. But it was not this way from the beginning. 9I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery." 10The disciples said to him, "If this is the situation between a husband and wife, it is better not to marry." 11Jesus replied, "Not everyone can accept this word, but only those to whom it has been given. 12For there are eunuchs who were born that way, and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by others-and there are those who choose to live like eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. The one who can accept this should accept it."
     
  10. Dave-W

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    God divorced Israel - yes.

    But He did NOT divorce Judah.
     
  11. Dave L

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    Divorce was permitted under the Old Covenant. But Christ fulfilled and abolished it. And the New Covenant did not import it from the Old. So divorce is something pagans do but is not sanctioned by God. He hates divorce. ““I hate divorce,” says the Lord God of Israel, “and the one who is guilty of violence,” says the Lord who rules over all. “Pay attention to your conscience, and do not be unfaithful.”” (Malachi 2:16)

    So marriage is for life. Divorce is an empty law just like abortion not having God's support. And all who divorce and remarry end up committing adultery. Divorce = unforgiveness = damnable sin. But separating from an abusive spouse is good so long as you remain willing to forgive.
     
  12. SonOfZion

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    Romans 7:1 (For those that Know the Torah)

    Romans 7:2 A women that has a husband is bound to the law of her husband for as long as he lives

    Romans 7:3 If she remarries while her x-husband is still alive, she is an adulteress

    But, If her husband dies, then she is free to re-marry

    It is an Abomination for a man to re-marry a wife that had been sent away, Divorced. Deuteronomy 24:4

    YHWH Divorced Israel Jeremiah 3:8

    It would be an Abomination according to His own statute on re-marriage, if He were to re-marry her.

    Unless the husband Dies, then She (Israel is free to re-marry the One that was raised from the Dead. Romans 7:4

    Dead to the Law of Remarriage, The Law of her husband Romans 7:2 Discharged.

    Jeremiah 3:14
    Turn, O backsliding children, saith YHWH; for I am married unto you: and I will take you one of a city, and two of a family, and I will bring you to Zion:

    YHWH divorces Israel in 721 BC, Exiles the 10 northern Tribes from their Inheritance.

    Keeping with His promise to David, concerning Judah, that there would always be one from Judah on the Throne.

    He never divorces Judah

    He divorced the Northern Kingdom, which He could not re-marry unless He died.

    YESHUA died for his unfaithful wife " ISRAEL" Jeremiah 31:33, Hebrews 8:10

    The beneficiaries of the New Covenant James 1:1
     
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  13. SolomonVII

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    Jesus the only begotten son of God, was also the son of Mary, a Jewish girl from Israel.
    The woman in Revelation, who some people believe to be Mary, is also Israel, in the pangs of birth of Jesus, or the Church.
    This is about as literal of a one flesh union as can be possible when the husband is fully Spirit.

    Ultimately, I don't think that God is about the divorce. Certainly, the Biblical hyperbole is filled with the emotion that any man would experience having his wife enter into carnal relations with another. The feelings and the anger, and the jealousy are very real, and it is something that we can all relate to in one way or another.
    But with God, love is forever. His love is patient and kind and forbearing, slow to anger and quick to forgive, and working forever to the kind of marriage of Christ to the Church that is the ultimate expression of agape love of the father.
    Divorce for God is only a temporal, temporary state of affairs. Like Hosea marrying the prostitute, God uses our sinful infidelity toward him to scatter his seed, Israel, among the nations. The children that Israel begats, even in sinful infidelity, are the legitimate heirs of God, the Father.
    His divorce is our 'freedom' to enter into the slavery of sin. And even then, he remains true to us. Our children are still his children, through adoption, and the marriage is as legitimate as it always was, if only we accept it to be.
    A single word of repentance on our behalf, and the whole of heaven rejoices.
    Bottom line, if the divorce of God and Israel was permanent and final, Jesus would be a bastard son of the Father.
    I don't think that this is the case.
     
  14. Heavenhome

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    What has any of what God did with Israel have anything to do with divorce?
    We are not God and unless I am mistaken I think 1Timothy Chapter 3 sets out clearly the requirements of those holding places of authority in churches???
     
  15. faroukfarouk

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    These things are often not practised among professing evangelicals, more is the pity.
     
  16. 1213

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    Bible doesn’t tell that as the reason. Also, it was not only Israel, but also Judah. That means, God has several “wives” and “Church” could be one of them. Unfortunately, I think “Church” has been worse than Israel and I expect that God divorces also “Church”.

    I saw, when, for this very cause that backsliding Israel had committed adultery, I had put her away and given her a bill of divorce, yet treacherous Judah, her sister, didn't fear; but she also went and played the prostitute.
    Jeremiah 3:8

    On the other hand, it is also said:

    Yet for all that, when they are in the land of their enemies, I will not reject them, neither will I abhor them, to destroy them utterly, and to break my covenant with them; for I am Yahweh their God; but I will for their sake remember the covenant of their ancestors, whom I brought forth out of the land of Egypt in the sight of the nations, that I might be their God. I am Yahweh.'"
    Leviticus 26:44-45
     
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