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Mark of the beast

Discussion in 'Eschatology - Endtimes & Prophecy Forum' started by Littlek, Mar 11, 2020.

  1. Littlek

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    I think it may be all spiritual? When we receive the holy spirit aren't we sealed with him? I'm starting to think no literal marks idk. God did mark Cain in some way so he will not be killed...and that had to be some kind of literal mark.
     
  2. martymonster

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    Cain is a type.

    Gen 4:2 And she again bare his brother Abel. And Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground.
    Gen 4:3 And in process of time it came to pass, that Cain brought of the fruit of the ground an offering unto the LORD.
    Gen 4:4 And Abel, he also brought of the firstlings of his flock and of the fat thereof. And the LORD had respect unto Abel and to his offering:


    Cain was a tiller of the ground, which means he was preoccupied with the things of the flesh. Man is made of the dust of the ground. Cain's offering wasn't evil, it just wasn't what God is interested in. Cain's offering to the Lord, were his own good works, and our good works stink in God's nostrils.
     
  3. yeshuaslavejeff

    yeshuaslavejeff simple truth, martyr, disciple of Yahshua

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    Let the Father be the One to Reveals This , and the understanding of Scripture (His Understanding - His Meaning) , to you.

    He is well pleased to reveal this to little children, but hides it from the educated ones, according to Jesus.

    The ideas and thoughts of man go everywhich way except the Truth ! (unless the Father Grants the understanding to someone, they have not)...
     
  4. Leet

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    I believe it's a literal mark/chip/implant.
    But I don't believe God's people need to worry about receiving it by accident. God wouldn't allow that to happen.
    Those who do receive it may well have had some knowledge of the gospel and even the passages in Revelation but they won't care due to the "strong delusion" God will send to unbelievers that they will believe the lie.
     
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  5. yeshuaslavejeff

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    Correct and in line with Scripture I believe.

    I met others who claimed to be 'Christian', but said "we have to get the mark, the government feeds us", thus they are already lost - trusting man instead of trusting the Father - even if they don't get the mark.
     
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  6. ViaCrucis

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    Firstly, you can relax. Your faith is in Christ, and He is trustworthy.

    Secondly, the mark of the beast isn't some kind of technology. In the book of the Revelation we see there are two kinds of marks or seals. The one most recognize is the one associated with the "Second Beast" whose name is calculated to the number six hundred and sixty-six (666) or, according to some very old variant texts, six hundred and sixteen (616). But we see another mark mentioned, the one placed upon God's people (c.f. Revelation 7:1-8).

    The idea of being marked or having a seal is very old. For example in the Torah God commands the Jews to be sealed with the Torah upon their right hand and between the eyes (Deuteronomy 6:6-8), this eventually gave rise to the tradition of wearing phylacteries as a visible expression of this command. But the idea of a seal, a sign, or a mark on the right hand and between the eyes suggests the heart/mind and one's actions. The Torah was to be in the heart of God's people, such that their thoughts and actions would be built upon God's commandments.

    The idea of a seal or mark signifies belonging, so for example St. Paul says that we are sealed with the Holy Spirit (Ephesians 1:13-14), being sealed with the Holy Spirit we know we belong to God.

    The mark of the beast isn't a piece of technology, or a tattoo, it is a bound allegiance to the beast--as opposed to an allegiance to Christ.

    The beast most probably is a reference to Roman imperial power broadly, and to Nero specifically (Nero's name adds up to both 666 and 616, interestingly enough). The contrast being presented is between those who worship the powers of this world, and those who worship God. And in spite of the conflict, where the powers of this world come down upon God's people in oppression and persecution, the hope and promise that shines through the entire text of the Revelation is God's victory over the world in Christ, who having died and raised has defeated even the very powers of death and hades, and that our hope in Christ is to share in His victory, both now and in the end, when God makes all things new.

    As a baptized Christian, trusting in the Lord, you have God's indelible mark and seal upon you, you belong to Him, and no power in all of creation can separate you from the love of God which is yours in Jesus Christ. Hear and trust the Gospel, Christ died for you, Christ saves you, put your confidence in Him.

    -CryptoLutheran
     
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  7. Jermayn

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    Receiving the mark will require you to pledge allegiance to a world ruler, and I'm not talking about something like reciting the pledge of allegiance to the American flag, I'm talking about to the point of straight up renouncing Jesus. It's not like you're going to be going to a theme park and they stamp your hand with one of those stamps and be like "OHH, THAT WAS ACTUALLY THE MARK OF THE BEAST! GOTCHA!". God's not going to condemn you for something like that.
     
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  8. Hawkins

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    Right hand and forehead refers to an ancient Jewish custom that the Jews tie verses from the Scripture to their foreheads and right hands to remind themselves to follow God. Something in our world is doing the opposite. It infected everyone's mind and behavior such that those infected will fight God. In a nutshell, the image of the beast represents our secular education system.

    The puzzle is like this,

    The 666th character appears in the Bible is once rumored to be Solomon. It is a symbol of richness and gold. To confirm this assumption, when 666 is reversed it is 999 which is a symbol of gold in today's world. Gold is in a form of currency in today's world. Out of the many currencies, the US dollar is representative of them. Washington is the name of the beast with its image in the US dollars. Beasts usually in prophetic articles initially represents a king or a nation. We usually refer "Moscow" or "Washington" as the Russia and the US respectively, such as "news from Moscow or Washington" means news from Russia or the US.

    Now that the second beast is addressed. Again to confirm this assumption, it is a beast from the continent vs. the first beast from the sea. The US is a continental country versus England which is an island country. The first beast is England who is representative of how today's English based secular system started.

    Britain out of UK was wounded in both WWI and WWII, by the time it is healed the education core has already been shifted to the US. The US now becomes the center of today's worldwide education. Our science is developed here that we can often see fires in the sky from space shuttles or rockets. However the education system itself is for Satan to convey a deception (a very fundamental one), and for atheism to rise up to fight against God.

    Our education system is from childhood and is enforced by law. On few can stay outside of it. Again as a confirmation, many of us will have to rely on our education level to make a living.

    What exactly is that delusional deception? In a nutshell it is a twisted worldview or a misinterpretation of our reality (intentionally induced by Satan). The core of atheism is the believing of evidence (as indoctrinated by our secular education system). To the atheists things are only believable if they can be evidenced. Our reality however is operated completely in the opposite way. If you don't think so it means, well, to a certain extent you are indoctrinated too.

    Our reality is a world of testimonies, instead of a world of evidence. Humans in majority don't rely on evidence to get to a truth. They rely on faith in the testimonies from a source deemed credible to get to a truth. Every kind of truth works this way, including science (maybe to your surprise).

    The concept of evidence is delivered from the concept of science through our education system. However Satan's deception coming in with the delusion that every truth can be evidenced like a science while in reality it's not (mostly in the opposite). The characteristic or part of a science which we can make it evidenced is as follows,
    - it repeats itself
    Science is accurate only under the circumstance that something can be repeatedly observed (or repeated calculatable mathematically or logically). We accurately describe or predict how a phenomenon repeats itself from the point as of now to a point in the future. When we send a space craft to the surface of moon, by our scientific theory the orbit is repeated calculatable without mistake. If our mission failed we don't complain about our physics laws. It must be something else caused the failure instead to say that "we have a wrong physics theory". When we repeatedly and successfully send our crafts to the space orbits, in terms of a past view, we can thus say the it is evidenced to us that our physics laws are correct.

    A science can be evidenced because we can gather its evidence by repeating a predictable phenomenon very precisely.

    Science may not or cannot be accurate when it is used outside the above mentioned scope. Today's we (due to human curiosity) apply our science to the area of historical past (such as ToE), and phenomena outside of human capacity to make them repeat themselves (such as BBT). That's why both ToE and BBT are controversial theories. Their accuracy cannot be confirmed unless we can make them repeat in front of us.

    We can dig evidence to support evolution though. It is so because some historical mass activities may (or may not) leave a trail for us to get to their evidence (evidence = some physical existence requiring a human interpretation).

    Now Satan's deception goes to infect the concept of historical evidence. Atheists often ask for evidence of, say, a historical Jesus. While mass activities may leave a trail, historical individual activities can hardly be evidenced. It's like you ate 3 meals a day and by the age of 31 you have eaten more than 10,000 meals but you can hardly evidence the food contents of any out of them.
     
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  9. Davy

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    Not only this, but Ezekiel 9 gives a pattern for the angels sealing the servants of God with God's mark, which per the Hebrew is pointing to the Hebrew letter Tau. In paleo-Hebrew, that letter tau was rendered as a cross.
     
  10. Hawkins

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    That said. The most important part of our reality is, truth is exclusively conveyed through human testimonies in the different forms. Here are some examples,

    1. Science
    Do you know black holes exist? Among humans who know for a fact that black holes exist, 99.99% of them don't have the evidence! We need precise scientific equipment in order to get to the evidence of the existence of black holes. These equipment are only accessible to a few scientists professed in this field.

    So at least the majority of humans don't rely on evidence to get to this single piece of fact. They actually rely on putting in human testimonies in the various forms by trusting the credibility of our scientists. Everyone however can get to the evidence by joining the scientists as black holes can be repeatedly observable. However humans in majority (those who know for a fact that black holes exist) don't even examine the works of our scientists. They simply don't need evidence to get to the fact. They need a truth on the credibility of our scientists (their framework of working), our media and our education system (only when you are under graduated) or our governmental departments such as NASA.

    Our scientists (small bunch of them professed in black holes and made use of the precious equipment), act as the eyewitnesses between a truth and humans in majority. What flows is their testimonies instead of evidence.

    2. History
    Similarly, histories are written by historians gathering stories (history = his story) or testimonies from the supposedly eyewitness accounts. In terms of human activities, only by sheer chance that a mass activity may leave a trail but not 99.9999% individual activities. History is fundamentally conveyed as human testimonies.

    3. Daily occurrence
    Today's world occurrences are also conveyed in the form of testimonies. Imaging the world before the invention of photos, we read facts from journals, books or newspapers. They are all the various forms of testimonies. Even through education we do labs only on limited and simple scientific topics. Mostly we read from text books with information ultimately from the small group of scientists who are professed in the fields.

    We read newspapers while sitting home without anyone presenting us any evidence. We only read from a piece of paper with some human writings on it. Our faith or trust is on the credibility of those composed the news or articles ultimately from the eyewitness account with a direct contact with facts for us to believe.

    That's the way how this reality operates, in the opposite way of what the atheists suggest. We can get to the same evidence only when we join the reporters to maintain a contact of the eyewitness accounts to get the facts, only those have a direct contact with the facts can possibly have the evidence. This only allows a few to do so, the majority are not reporters nor eyewitnesses. They are the readers sitting home to get to the various facts by faith!

    4. Religion
    Humans with their fruit from the Tree of Knowledge, they don't need God to deal with this reality (earthly life). If humans are humble enough, they will notice that what humans can't do is to tell a future, specially on if an afterlife exists. God hid the Tree of Life from them to tell.

    Christianity is about such a message from God. A message about a future (similar to one about a history) can only be conveyed through testimonies, with information from the witnesses accounts from those having a direct encounter with God Himself. This remains the only way for humans to get to such a fact, unless God shows up publicly to say it Himself. He won't do so because He abides by the covenant which specifies that humans need to be saved by faith and faith alone. Thus the only way for humans to get to a truth about their own future is from the testimonies of those encountered Him directly.

    NT is about the testimonies from those witnessed the deeds of Jesus Christ. Unlike any other religions, the message is conveyed in a mankind-facing manner with the effect from the direct command from Jesus Christ that the gospel must be preached to each and every nation as a witness before His return. Christianity is thus an international religion with such an intention from the very beginning when it started from the apostles. Other religions either don't earn the popularity to save humans, or they remain local due to the lack of such a command from their gods. Either their gods don't know what they themselves are doing, or they made Hinduism to save only Indians, or Muslim only to save Arabians in the middle east.

    The atheists got the reality completely wrong. They worship science as God (thus science can also be the image of the beast). They are deceived by Satan. God allows that delusion occurs to them. Thus in reality they don't ask for evidence when reading science materials, they don't ask for evidence when reading historical documents and they don't ask for evidence when reading newspapers. They only ask for evidence when reading religious documents.

    I will put a finish here. My 2 cents.
     
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  11. Bob Bridges

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    If you're going to believe what John says in the Revelation (and I heartily recommend that you believe what it says), then it makes sense to me that we believe what he actually writes:

    "....he makes the earth and those who dwell in it to worship the first beast, whose fatal wound was healed. He performs great signs, so that he even makes fire come down out of heaven to the earth in the presence of men. And he deceives those who dwell on the earth because of the signs which it was given him to perform in the presence of the beast, telling those who dwell on the earth to make an image to the beast who had the wound of the sword and has come to life. And it was given to him to give breath to the image of the beast, so that the image of the beast would even speak and cause as many as do not worship the image of the beast to be killed. And he causes all, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free men and the slaves, to be given a mark on their right hand or on their forehead, and he provides that no one will be able to buy or to sell, except the one who has the mark, either the name of the beast or the number of his name."

    (That's all from Rev 13.) So that bit about the forehead or the right hand; so far we don't have anything like that. You can surmise some mystical meaning for it, but why? It probably means what it says. If it's meant to be a warning, I expect that those of us who trust God and want to know His will for us will recognize what's going on when it comes.

    And all those other clues are pretty blatant, too. A man whose fatal head wound was healed—making everyone worship him—dramatic miracles (fire from heaven)—no one allowed to buy or sell unless they take that mark. I'm thinking we'll have lots of warning.

    And there's this, too: Both John and Daniel tell us that the antiChrist will be making war against the saints, and will be winning that war. Daniel, in fact, says those events won't be finished until "the power of the holy people is finally shattered". As one Christian teacher said recently, God is not going to rescue us from His enemies; He's going to use us to rescue His enemies. It won't be over (in my opinion) until He's retrieved every last rescue from those who hate Him.

    So it isn't the sort of thing that is likely to pass unnoticed. I, at least, have no fear I won't notice it.

     
  12. BrotherD

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    Revelation 14:9-12
    [9]And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,
    [10]The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:
    [11]And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.
    [12]Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

    These four verses speak volumes, lets have a quick breakdown.

    Revelation 14:9
    [9]And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,

    First we see that the mark involves worship.

    A beast in the bible is a king or a kingdom:
    Daniel 7:17,23
    [17]These great beasts, which are four, are four kings, which shall arise out of the earth.
    [23]Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.

    What does an image mean according to scripture:
    Genesis 5:3 KJV — And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his own likeness, after his image; and called his name Seth:

    Greek: εἰκών
    Transliteration: eikōn
    Pronunciation: i-kone'
    Definition: From G1503; a likeness that is (literally) statue profile or (figuratively) representation resemblance: - image.

    What is a mark according to scripture:
    Greek: χάραγμα
    Transliteration: charagma
    Pronunciation: khar'-ag-mah
    Definition: From the same as G5482; a scratch or etching that is stamp (as a badge of servitude) or sculptured figure (statue): - graven mark.

    Forehead and hand together – Sign of loyalty and devotion to a law
    Deuteronomy 6:6-8
    [6]And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be in thine heart:
    [7]And thou shalt teach them diligently unto thy children, and shalt talk of them when thou sittest in thine house, and when thou walkest by the way, and when thou liest down, and when thou risest up.
    [8]And thou shalt bind them for a sign upon thine hand, and they shall be as frontlets between thine eyes.
     
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  13. Littlek

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    Wow...sad
     
  14. Littlek

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    Thank you. I wondered about that very verse 2 nights ago...about how Adam had a son in his likeness...and I was trying to figure out what that meant.

    I'm going to read through revalation tonight.
     
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    Thanks alot for your response. I do not like the educational system at all. If I didnt have fibro I would home school.my grandchildren...makes me sick about what they teach...but I will tell them what I know. I remember my school books years ago had us evolved from monkeys or something and how it grouped us with animals as mammals.
    If children do not receive their vaccines they cant go to school...so it's almost forced unless you can home school them. Poor kids.
     
  16. SK_Brace

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    The mark of the beast won't be subtle. For the mark of the beast, the be here, the beast first has to be revealed. Aka the Anti-Christ. It will be hard for people to buy without the mark of the beast, we still have currency. I really believe this aligns with the one world order agenda, where we will have one government. Taking the mark of the beast isn't just simply taking a mark. You will have to bow down to the beast system and worship him. Once you take the mark your fate is sealed because you have now chosen Satan. The world will be a terrible place for believers and many will be suffering and martyred. However, a true Christian should be willing to lay their life down for God. Just like Paul said:
    Philippians 1:21 ''For to me, to live is Christ, and to die is gain.''
    As horrible as it is, us suffering on this earth won't compare to the wrath of God that unbelievers will have to endure for eternity. I would rather choose the former.
     
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    Meanings of Symbols

    Horn – King, kingdom, power and strength (Dan 7:24; 8:5,21-22; Zec 1:18-
    19; Rev 17:12)
    Beast – State/kingdom (Dan 7:17,23)
    Hand – Symbol for actions, works (Ecc 9:10, Isa 59:6; Acts 4:28)
    Harvest – End of the earth (Matt13:39)
    Harlot, infidel woman – Apostate church (Isa 1:21-27; Jer 3:1-3; 6-9; Hos 2:5; 3:1)
    Heads – Rulers, goverments (Rev 17: 3,9,10; Dan 7:6; 8:8,22)
    Horse – Strength and power in battle / Special messenger (Job 39:19; Psalm 147:10; Pro 21:31; Exo 15:21; Isa 43:17; Jer 8:6; Zec 1:8-10, 6:1-8)
    Image – Likeness (Exo 10:4; Gen 1:26; 5:3)
    Incense – God’s peoples prayers (Psa 141:2; Rev 5:8)
    Israel – God’s true people (Rom 9:6-8; 2:28-29; Gal 3:29; Matt 3:9; John 8:39)
    Vessel/ jar – Person (Jer 18:1-4; 2 Cor 4:7)
    Jezebel – Immoral, Unmoral, falling
    away, apostacy, idol worship among God’s people (1 Kings 21:25; 2 Kings 9:22)
    Keys of David – Power to open and close the Sanctuary (Rev 3:7-9; Isa 22:22)
    Keys – Control/authority (Isa 22:22; Matt 16:19)
    Lamb – Jesus/ sacrifice (John 1:29; 1 Cor 5:7; Gen 22:7-8)
    Lamp – God’s word (Psalm 119:105)
    The bride of the lamb – The New Jerusalem (Rev 19:7-9; 21:2, 9-10)
    Lion – Jesus or a powerful king (Rev 5:4-9; Jer 50:43-44; Dan 7:4,17, 23)
    Grasshoppers 1 – Destruction (Joel 1:4; Deut 28:38)
    Grasshoppers 2 – An army from east of
    Israel (Judges 7:12; 6:5)
    Leopard – Greece (Dan 7:6)
    Bear – Destroying power/ Medo Persia (Pro 28:15; 2 King 2:23-24; Dan 7:5) Leprosy – Sin (Luke 5:23-24)
    Abomination of desolation – Army of Rome (When Jesus talks about
    the destruction of Jerusalem. (Matt 24:1-3, 15)
    Wind – wars and strife (Jer 25:31-33; 49:36-37; 4:11-13; Zec 7:14; Rev 7:1)
    Sea – Peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues. (Rev 17:15)
    Pure woman/ virgin – God’s faithful church (2 Cor 11:2; Eph 5:25-27; Jer 6:2) Fish – People (Matt 4:19)
    Serpent – Satan, Devil (Rev 12:9)
    Oil – God’s spirit (Zec 4:3,6)
    Eagles wings – Protection (Exo 19:4; Isa 40:31)
    Candlestick – Church (Rev 1:20)
    Angel – Messenger (Dan 8:16; 9:21; Luke 1:19, 26; Heb 1:14)
    Babylon – Religious curruption/confusion (Gen 10:8-10; 11:6-9; Rev 18:2-3; 17:1-5) Teaching of Balaam – Follow your own interests, compromise in order to gain something etc. (Num 22:5-25)
    Blood – Life (Lev 17:11; Deut 12:23)
    Blue – Reminder of God’s law (Num 15:38-39)
    Bottomless Pit – Earth in a chaotic state, destroyed, dark and empty. (Gen 1:1-2; Jer 4:23-28; Isa 24:1-4, 19; Rev 20:1-3) Clothing – Character (Isa 64:5; 59:6)
    Cup– measured punishments (Psalm 11:6; Isa 51:12,22-23; Jer 25:12-17; 49:12) Day – Literal year (Eze 4:6; Num 14:34)
    Door – Opportunity/probation (2 Cor 2:12; Rev 3:20; Luke 12:24-25)
    Dragon – Satan and/or his workers (Isa 27:1; 30:6; Psalm 74:13,14; Rev 12:7,9; Eze. 29:3; Jer 51:34)
    Eagle – Speed, power, revenge, protection (Deut 28:49; Hab 1:6-8; Rev 12:1-4)
    Eat a book – Receiving a message (Eze 3:1-3; Jer 15:16)
    Egypt – Symbol of atheism or to deny God’s exsistance (Exo 5:2)
    Eyes – spiritual discernment (Matt 13:10-17, 1 John 2:11)
    Eye ointment – The Holy Spirit helping us to see the truth, understanding of the Word, Medicine against spiritual blindness. (Eph 1:12-19; Psalm 119:18; I John 2:20,27; John 16:7-13)
    Hunger – Lack of truth (Amos 8:11)
    Feet – Where we are going/direction
    (Gen 19:2, Psal. 119:105)
    Forehead/Mind – Decision (Rom 7:25; Eze 3:8,9)
    Forehead and hand together – Sign of loyalty and devotion to a law (Exo 13:9, Deut 6:6-8)
    Fornication/infidelity/adultery – Illegal connection between the church and the world. (Eze 16:15,26; Isa 23:17; James 4:4; Rev. 14:4)
    Fruit– deed, actions (Gal 5:22)
    Goat – Greece (Dan 8:21)
    The Lord’s day – The Sabbath (Isa 58:13; Matt 12:8; Exo 20:10)
    Measuring rod – Gods standard, His word or law that we are measured by. (James 2:10-12; Ecc 12:13-14; Isa 8:19-20; 2 Tim 3:16-17)
    Merchants – Preachers of Babylons religions (Isa 47:11-15; Nahum 3:16; Rev. 18:3,11,15,23)
    Mountains – Governments or religious-political powers (Isa 2:2-3; Jer 17:3; 31:23; 51:24-25; Eze 17:22-23; Da. 2:35, 44-45)
    The New Jerusalem – A holy city in Heaven (Rev 3:12, 21:2)
    Ram – Medo Persia (Dan 8:20)
    Red/scarlet – sin/corruption (Isa 1:18;
    Nahum 2:3; Rev 17:1-4)
    Seal – A sign or mark of acceptance (Rom 4:11; Rev 7:2,3)
    Stars – Angels, messengers or leaders (Rev 1:16,20; 12:4,7-9; Job 38:7)
    Sword – Gods word/destruction (Eph 6:17; Heb 4:12; Isa 3:25; 13:15; Acts 12:1-2; Jer 48:2)
    Gods witnesses – (John 5:39, Zec 4:1-14;
    Psalm 119:130, 105; John 12:48)
    Vineyard – A church that bear fruit (Luke 20:9-16)
    White – purity (Rev 12:9: 20:2)
    Vine – blood/covenant/doctrines (Luke
    5:37, Isa 5:1-7)

    Revelation 17-22: The corrupt churches are punished, God's true church are saved. | Thirdangelsmessage.com
     
  18. Michael Collum

    Michael Collum Everything began with a voice, use yours Supporter

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    666 only appears one other time in the bible, it's the amount of gold Solomon brought in every year. As God commanded to not amass great wealth, Solomon did anyway.
     
  19. yeshuaslavejeff

    yeshuaslavejeff simple truth, martyr, disciple of Yahshua

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    Very. Jesus is a "man of sorrow, acquainted with grief" in Scripture....
    He is grieved even when the wicked die. (as written)
    They still die. Most religious folk are already accepting of the mark/ the control and provision granted by man's government/agency, and so won't hesitate long to receive the mark. Some religions promote receiving it ! (Christian churches/pastors/ priests !)
     
  20. Littlek

    Littlek I'm His

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    Well I hate to say this, but since fibromyalgia took over my life..I lost my RN job and had to go on disability. Now that scares me. I have so many bills..idk what else to do. I do see as o paid into the system when I worked...I am getting back what I paid in. If I could get my debt under control I would go off...I dont like depending on it...but too sick to work.
     
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