Maricopa County Leaders call on AZ Senate to stop sham investigation of 2020 election

[Whyayeman]

I'm not very good at this. Thank you for the intervention.

 

[Tinker Grey]

I'm not very good at this. Thank you for the intervention.

Don't worry about. Shtuff happens (TM).

 

[wing2000]

This is the first full forensic audit in our nation's history. It will not change past certification. The hope is that it will be of great benefit to future elections. You need to realize that sometimes a cursory audit or investigation does not always uncover all of the facts. In this case auditors were urged to do a more thorough audit and count and they chose not to do so. Now the Arizona legislature has stepped in. The Arizona legislature has full rights under the law to conduct this full forensic audit. Why would people go to such effort to try and stop a more thorough audit?

Donald Trump

 

[Valletta]

Donald Trump

I agree, the elite are scared to death of losing their power and seem willing to do almost anything to make sure Trump doesn't win again. Ross Perot was the same kind of threat, Perot told the people if you want a good health care system make sure your servants in Washington get the very same health care you do. Can you imagine?

 

[Nithavela]

I agree, the elite are scared to death of losing their power and seem willing to do almost anything to make sure Trump doesn't win again. Ross Perot was the same kind of threat, Perot told the people if you want a good health care system make sure your servants in Washington get the very same health care you do. Can you imagine?

It still baffles me that people don't think of Donald Trump as "the elite".

 

[KCfromNC]

I agree, the elite are scared to death of losing their power and seem willing to do almost anything to make sure Trump doesn't win again.

It was a lot more than just the elites who showed up to vote for Donald's opponent, given that Biden won in a landslide. Perhaps elites and "commoners" alike could see through Donald's con - or at least a large majority were smart enough not to fall for it.

 

[wing2000]

It was a lot more than just the elites who showed up to vote for Donald's opponent, given that Biden won in a landslide. Perhaps elites and "commoners" alike could see through Donald's con - or at least a large majority were smart enough not to fall for it.

Recently, another Arizonan Republican challenged senate leader Fam to consider an alternative method to dispel doubts about the election (she ignored the offer):

Election experts — including the founder of a national auditing company and a prominent Pima County Republican — have a proposal to dispel conspiracy theories about fraud in the 2020 election in Maricopa County.

Here's the offer: The experts say that if the Senate selects a box of unopened ballots (any box), the team could within minutes provide an accurate count of each race on all 1,000 or so ballots inside — without ever opening it.

They would do this, they said, using public data they obtained from Maricopa County, that includes spreadsheets on batches of ballots as they were tabulated in November.

....

The group already has run an analysis on the data they've compiled on the election, and say that the key to Donald Trump's loss in Arizona were Republican voters who supported the party in non-presidential races.
They identified tens of thousands of ballots where a voter selected eight or more Republicans yet didn't vote for Trump.

Arizona audit: Election experts challenge Fann, Cyber Ninjas on count

 

[Whyayeman]

The group already has run an analysis on the data they've compiled on the election, and say that the key to Donald Trump's loss in Arizona were Republican voters who supported the party in non-presidential races.
They identified tens of thousands of ballots where a voter selected eight or more Republicans yet didn't vote for Trump.

Is this what Trump fanatics cannot grasp; that there are registered Republicans who could not support their dear leader?

 

[Valletta]

Recently, another Arizonan Republican challenged senate leader Fam to consider an alternative method to dispel doubts about the election (she ignored the offer):

Election experts — including the founder of a national auditing company and a prominent Pima County Republican — have a proposal to dispel conspiracy theories about fraud in the 2020 election in Maricopa County.

Here's the offer: The experts say that if the Senate selects a box of unopened ballots (any box), the team could within minutes provide an accurate count of each race on all 1,000 or so ballots inside — without ever opening it.

They would do this, they said, using public data they obtained from Maricopa County, that includes spreadsheets on batches of ballots as they were tabulated in November.

....

The group already has run an analysis on the data they've compiled on the election, and say that the key to Donald Trump's loss in Arizona were Republican voters who supported the party in non-presidential races.
They identified tens of thousands of ballots where a voter selected eight or more Republicans yet didn't vote for Trump.

Arizona audit: Election experts challenge Fann, Cyber Ninjas on count

The link did not work for me, but they seem to be missing the point. An audit is to identify problems and then those problems can be fixed. For whatever reason a lot of Democrat money is behind trying to stop the audit. This is our nation's first full forensic audit, where auditors have access to actual ballots. Whether large problems or small let's fix them.

 

[Brihaha]

I believe the Arizona "audit" is supposed to be wrapped up today. They moved the deadline back a month for Cyber Ninjas to finish. I think they merely undermined Americans' faith in democracy further. This audit seems like a paper tiger without any teeth.

 

[Whyayeman]

a lot of Democrat money is behind trying to stop the audit.

That is an odd allegation given that the 'audit' is entirely funded by Republican money after some Republicans attempted to throw doubt on the result of the properly conducted election.

It is not really an audit at all; it is an attempt to reverse the result. The company hired by the Republicans has no experience or qualification as auditors. The ballot has been compromised in numerous ways and can never be considered authoritative.

 

[wing2000]

..speaking of funding.....

The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reported about several Wisconsin lawmakers who traveled to Phoenix on Friday and Saturday to observe the audit and gave us a new detail: The trip was funded by Voices and Votes, the nonprofit organization run by Christina Bobb that is fundraising for the audit. She's also a host on the One America News Network...


Arizona audit: Election experts challenge Fann, Cyber Ninjas on count

 

[Valletta]

It still baffles me that people don't think of Donald Trump as "the elite".

Are they there to rule or to serve? Do their orders exclude these leaders and their friends? Are they or their families involved in crime? Take a guy like John Kerry, in his first Congressional campaign his brother and campaign manager were arrested in a night time break-in of the building that housed his opponent's campaign headquarters. Read the Boston papers and Kerry's fake explanation. Kerry went to work for the judge who just let the charge against Cameron Kerry slide year after year. Then came the BCCI investigation were John Kerry "forgot" to mention his relationship to one of the bankers he was investigating. Then the POW/MIA scandal were Kerry "forgot" to mention that his cousin was head of a company seeking an 800 million dollar contract with Vietnam. That company was the first to receive a contract with Vietnam right after Kerry saw the trade embargo lifted. Biden too has a long history in corruption.

 

[Valletta]

These stories have circulated ever since the election. The problem is verification. The issues were not presented to the court; the affidavits put before the court did not make these allegations.

And there is the rub. Why not? Should we believe the evidence was in the possession of the plaintiffs in the form of affidavits but that they did not present them for some reason? I think the reason might be that these stories have no foundation. They did not appear in the affidavits I read.

Again, I can't help that you seem so unfamiliar with the charges in so many of the affidavits.

 

[Valletta]

..speaking of funding.....

The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reported about several Wisconsin lawmakers who traveled to Phoenix on Friday and Saturday to observe the audit and gave us a new detail: The trip was funded by Voices and Votes, the nonprofit organization run by Christina Bobb that is fundraising for the audit. She's also a host on the One America News Network...


Arizona audit: Election experts challenge Fann, Cyber Ninjas on count

I am glad non-profits are stepping up. Election integrity affects us all.

 

[wing2000]

I am glad non-profits are stepping up. Election integrity affects us all.

A non-profit run by the very person who is a host from TV network whose business model is built on spreading lies.

 

[wing2000]

...as one local news media commentator observed:

Bobb — the host of "Weekly Briefing" on OAN and a graduate of Arizona State University, according to her biography from the Department of Homeland Security, where she once worked — has been "covering" the audit. And while she's at it, she has also been working with the Republican-backed audit, reportedly providing information to the Arizona Senate president and helping with fundraising.

Seriously.

This is ridiculous. There's really no other word for it. The only thing preventing it from being an enormous conflict of interest between a source and a reporter for a legitimate news organization is that OAN isn't legitimate at all.

Why Christina Bobb's OAN coverage of the Arizona audit is dangerous

 

[Valletta]

I believe the Arizona "audit" is supposed to be wrapped up today. They moved the deadline back a month for Cyber Ninjas to finish. I think they merely undermined Americans' faith in democracy further. This audit seems like a paper tiger without any teeth.

Quite the judgment without seeing the results. It is true that the audit was delayed because the hall was used for an unrelated group.

 

[Valletta]

A non-profit run by the very person who is a host from TV network whose business model is built on spreading lies.

In fact the years long Democrat Russian collusion conspiracy theory was a hoax. The China virus was developed from the Wuhan lab. Trump did not have protesters attacked and removed for a photo-op. The rise in violent crime is related to the defund the police movement. The laptop did belong to Hunter Biden. They've been much more accurate than the mainstream media.

 

[wing2000]

In fact the years long Democrat Russian collusion conspiracy theory was a hoax. The China virus was developed from the Wuhan lab. Trump did not have protesters attacked and removed for a photo-op. The rise in violent crime is related to the defund the police movement. The laptop did belong to Hunter Biden. They've been much more accurate than the mainstream media.

LOL.