Also, let me have you answer the question that Herbie refuses (instead he starts another baseless thread).
How do you consider the government of Kenya remarking on how Barry was born in Kenya, baseless?
Also, you were wrong in another thread where you falsely stated Herbie started another to avoid your question.
How did Obama's mother, very pregnant, get to Kenya with no passport (a fact that has been verified).
I have a theory on that however, could you please link the "fact" that Stanley Ann Obama did not have a passport. (not that it matters in my theory).
Further, how did she sneak back into the US within days of Obama's birth,
Who says she ever had to sneak in to the US?
get the Hawaiian birth certificate and notices in the Honolulu papers
First, there is no evidence of a birth certificate, what we do have is a certification of live birth that basically states that there was a baby born and not mush else.
Second, who says Stanley Ann Obama aquired any paperwork for the child?
It is well known that a COLB could have been aquired by just about anyone with knowledge of the birth; grandma, grandpa or even mom or dad. They didn't even have to be physically present, they could have send the registration in via snail mail. Once the registration was inacted it seems the state registrar would have automatically let those in charge of announcements of newborns being printed in the newspapers even though they would have more than likely printed the announcement from a simple phone call.
However, the papers do not verify anything more than a birth took place according to their information, however it was received.
and still manage to get to Washington state within a week of birth, with both a days old infant and, again, no passport?
What evidence places Stanley Ann Obama in Hawaii. Did you get that from the COLB?
As for Obama and Indonesian citizenship, parents cannot get rid of a minor child's citizenship -- even if neither parent is an American citizen.
As far as Indonesia was concerned, little Barry was an Indonesian due to Mr. Soetoro adopting little Barry. Indonesia did not allow for dual citizenship, and there is really no verification that Barry was a US citizen.
However, we do know that Senator Obama has admitted to being a British subject "at birth".
Name: Barry Soetoro
Religion: .....
Islam
Nationality: .....
Indonesian
The child must renounce his citizenship after he turns 18 in order for the child to lose the citizenship (see Supreme Court decision Perkins v. Elg).
Did Obama renounce his Indonesian citizenship, his British citizenship, or his Kenyan citizenship? Did he ever "elect" to reclaim his US citizenship, if he ever had that, when he reached the majority?
You do know that Marie Elizabeth Elg. was born in the United States? Also, her parents, who were natives of Sweden, emigrated to the United States sometime before 1906, and her father became a naturalized citizen of the US that same year. Marie was born in Brooklyn, New York, on October 2, 1907 and became a Citizen by virtue of soil
and blood via her father's US citizenship (
(jus soli) and
(jus sanguinis). Elg's
Mother derived US citizenship when her father was naturalized because at that time a woman's status in the US was tied to that of her husband.
An alien woman obtained automatic US citizenship when her alien husband became naturalized because she would at the time have been considered the "property" of a man.
So, in 1907 when Elg was born on US soil, both of her parents were US citizens, therefore she was a "natural born citizen."
Which would agree with Vattel
and Blackstone.
"When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdoms dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.s children.
"every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen." John A. Bingham, the Framer of the 14th Amendment.
The U. S. Supreme Court in 1939 held that Elg was a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN because she was born in Brooklyn, New York on October 2, 1907, her father was naturalized as a U.S. citizen in 1906 under the
Naturalization Act of 1906, and her mother derived her US citizenship in 1907 under the Expatriation Act of 1907. The
Expatriation Act of 1907 extended the logic linking a woman's citizenship to her marital status and the status of her spouse.
Ms. Elg was found to be a "natural born citizen" because she was born in the mainland USA (New York) of TWO US citizen parents.
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