Malaysian Airline Crash - Stealth Technology

[mindlight]

A friend of mine firmly believes that the US government hijacked the plane. That the pilot had a simulator at his home where he researched flying dark to Diego Garcia. That he flew dark to Diego Garcia where the captured crew were apprehended or killed by US Government reps. The motive being the acquisition or consolidation of stealth technology from various technical reps on board. Apparently there were 20 people on board working for Freescale a company specialising in this sort of stealth technology that could hide aircraft from radar

Malaysia Airlines Plane MH370 Latest Conspiracy Theory: Who were Freescale Semiconductor Experts on Board?

Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 - Wikipedia

How would you go about refuting this claim and the various other conspiracy theories surrounding this flight?

 

[HTacianas]

A friend of mine firmly believes that the US government hijacked the plane. That the pilot had a simulator at his home where he researched flying dark to Diego Garcia. That he flew dark to Diego Garcia where the captured crew were apprehended or killed by US Government reps. The motive being the acquisition or consolidation of stealth technology from various technical reps on board. Apparently there were 20 people on board working for Freescale a company specialising in this sort of stealth technology that could hide aircraft from radar

Malaysia Airlines Plane MH370 Latest Conspiracy Theory: Who were Freescale Semiconductor Experts on Board?

Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 - Wikipedia

How would you go about refuting this claim and the various other conspiracy theories surrounding this flight?

The US government does not kidnap scientists to get information from them, stealth or otherwise. If someone had some type of information like that and was unwilling to simply sell it, the CIA would hack into their computers and steal it, then turn it over to Northrop Grumman to develop it.

 

[Tanj]

How would you go about refuting this claim and the various other conspiracy theories surrounding this flight?

You cannot reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into.

 

[Occams Barber]

A friend of mine firmly believes that the US government hijacked the plane. That the pilot had a simulator at his home where he researched flying dark to Diego Garcia. That he flew dark to Diego Garcia where the captured crew were apprehended or killed by US Government reps. The motive being the acquisition or consolidation of stealth technology from various technical reps on board. Apparently there were 20 people on board working for Freescale a company specialising in this sort of stealth technology that could hide aircraft from radar

Malaysia Airlines Plane MH370 Latest Conspiracy Theory: Who were Freescale Semiconductor Experts on Board?

Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 - Wikipedia

How would you go about refuting this claim and the various other conspiracy theories surrounding this flight?

Roll on the floor in paroxysms of laughter?
OB

 

[mindlight]

The US government does not kidnap scientists to get information from them, stealth or otherwise. If someone had some type of information like that and was unwilling to simply sell it, the CIA would hack into their computers and steal it, then turn it over to Northrop Grumman to develop it.

Is that true? The CIA itself released these examples.

Family Jewels (Central Intelligence Agency) - Wikipedia

 

[mindlight]

You cannot reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into.

His reasoning would be on the lines of assuming that there is a secret government conducting black ops. Given that assumption he then reasons ...

 

[mindlight]

Roll on the floor in paroxysms of laughter?
OB

My wifes reaction was similar to this. She suggests my friend assumes too high a degree of competence to government. A secret like this would never be kept by government officials and they would probably mess up the execution of it in the first place.

 

[Occams Barber]

My wifes reaction was similar to this. She suggests my friend assumes too high a degree of competence to government. A secret like this would never be kept by government officials and they would probably mess up the execution of it in the first place.

I suspect there are far less exotic and far less risky ways of getting the information that was (allegedly) sought.

If a proposition sounds ridiculous, notwithstanding the odd exception, it probably is.
OB

 

[timewerx]

The hoax had many uncanny coincidences with a personal project I did back in 2003 concerning a potentially game-changing aerospace tech.

I was approached by two academics from the USA when they heard about my publication. Never heard from them again. I figure, they stole my ideas, lol! One of their names possibly appeared in other publications of this hoax (probably not their real names anyway).

The device is ultimately in semiconductor form and looks like Fishscales under a microscope. Freescale got its name in 2004 and the device they're working on is also in semiconductor form. Coincidence??

The great challenge of this technology is replicating a very fine pattern at nanoscale. I didn't get to that part for lack of interest and lack of sponsors.

I intended the technology for something else. It can generate incredibly strong electric fields and indeed, such property could in fact, be used to absorb wide range of radar frequencies and can even be adjusted at real time to absorb different radar frequencies. It may even be adjusted to work with visible light to reduce "naked eye" visibility.

No stealth aircraft currently have such capability so it is indeed a potentially game-changing technology. But it's still not 100% undetectable. It can still be detected with ELF (Extremely Low Frequency but at greatly reduced precision and reliability), magnetic anomaly sensors on the ground, and laser-based scanners.

I never came to that part of the research, since I'm only a "garage inventor" and stealth technology wasn't even in my mind at that time! It's definitely way way above my poor man's budget to even care about defeating radar technology!

 

[mindlight]

The hoax had many uncanny coincidences with a personal project I did back in 2003 concerning a potentially game-changing aerospace tech.

I was approached by two academics from the USA when they heard about my publication. Never heard from them again. I figure, they stole my ideas, lol! One of their names possibly appeared in other publications of this hoax (probably not their real names anyway).

The device is ultimately in semiconductor form and looks like Fishscales under a microscope. Freescale got its name in 2004 and the device they're working on is also in semiconductor form. Coincidence??

The great challenge of this technology is replicating a very fine pattern at nanoscale. I didn't get to that part for lack of interest and lack of sponsors.

I intended the technology for something else. It can generate incredibly strong electric fields and indeed, such property could in fact, be used to absorb wide range of radar frequencies and can even be adjusted at real time to absorb different radar frequencies. It may even be adjusted to work with visible light to reduce "naked eye" visibility.

No stealth aircraft currently have such capability so it is indeed a potentially game-changing technology. But it's still not 100% undetectable. It can still be detected with ELF (Extremely Low Frequency but at greatly reduced precision and reliability), magnetic anomaly sensors on the ground, and laser-based scanners.

I never came to that part of the research, since I'm only a "garage inventor" and stealth technology wasn't even in my mind at that time! It's definitely way way above my poor man's budget to even care about defeating radar technology!

Assuming all the above to be true it would indicate that the technological principles and even execution of such principles has been in circulation for at least 10 - 15 years. That getting rid of 20 people involved in Freescales implementation of said technology would not impact the research already done nor its general availability. So why would the CIA risk exposure for the murder of so many people for no obvious return would then be a key argument against the theory. The notion that they were afraid for instance that the Chinese were going to get their hands on the technology fails to recognise that the Chinese probably hacked it at least 10 years ago or read about it in freely available academic publications.

 

[timewerx]

Assuming all the above to be true it would indicate that the technological principles and even execution of such principles has been in circulation for at least 10 - 15 years. That getting rid of 20 people involved in Freescales implementation of said technology would not impact the research already done nor its general availability. So why would the CIA risk exposure for the murder of so many people for no obvious return would then be a key argument against the theory. The notion that they were afraid for instance that the Chinese were going to get their hands on the technology fails to recognise that the Chinese probably hacked it at least 10 years ago or read about it in freely available academic publications.

The original publication I made is for a different application.

I never even mentioned stealth technology, like never, concerning my invention. But I did mention "Kerr Effect" in the original publication. And Kerr effect can be used to absorb radar energy if tuned specifically to absorb radio waves and it can be actively tuned / modulated at real time - a massive advantage in stealth technology which no stealth aircraft currently possess.

The incredibly high electric fields it creates have other uses at well. Incredibly high electric fields is the part where laws of Newtonian physics begin to unravel and atoms may behave differently...

Way bigger than stealth technology if they figured it out... Big enough to get killed for. Why am I still alive? It's all probably just hoax and still no one is taking my theories seriously.

 

[durangodawood]

The hoax had many uncanny coincidences with a personal project I did back in 2003 concerning a potentially game-changing aerospace tech.

I was approached by two academics from the USA when they heard about my publication. Never heard from them again. I figure, they stole my ideas, lol! One of their names possibly appeared in other publications of this hoax (probably not their real names anyway).

The device is ultimately in semiconductor form and looks like Fishscales under a microscope. Freescale got its name in 2004 and the device they're working on is also in semiconductor form. Coincidence??

The great challenge of this technology is replicating a very fine pattern at nanoscale. I didn't get to that part for lack of interest and lack of sponsors.

I intended the technology for something else. It can generate incredibly strong electric fields and indeed, such property could in fact, be used to absorb wide range of radar frequencies and can even be adjusted at real time to absorb different radar frequencies. It may even be adjusted to work with visible light to reduce "naked eye" visibility.

No stealth aircraft currently have such capability so it is indeed a potentially game-changing technology. But it's still not 100% undetectable. It can still be detected with ELF (Extremely Low Frequency but at greatly reduced precision and reliability), magnetic anomaly sensors on the ground, and laser-based scanners.

I never came to that part of the research, since I'm only a "garage inventor" and stealth technology wasn't even in my mind at that time! It's definitely way way above my poor man's budget to even care about defeating radar technology!

OK. Remind me to never get on an airplane with you.

 

[Doctor.Sphinx]

A friend of mine firmly believes that the US government hijacked the plane. That the pilot had a simulator at his home where he researched flying dark to Diego Garcia. That he flew dark to Diego Garcia where the captured crew were apprehended or killed by US Government reps. The motive being the acquisition or consolidation of stealth technology from various technical reps on board. Apparently there were 20 people on board working for Freescale a company specialising in this sort of stealth technology that could hide aircraft from radar

Malaysia Airlines Plane MH370 Latest Conspiracy Theory: Who were Freescale Semiconductor Experts on Board?

Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 - Wikipedia

How would you go about refuting this claim and the various other conspiracy theories surrounding this flight?

Far easier for the flight never to have flown at all, as was probably done for the 11.09.2001 attacks.

 

[Goonie]

Far easier for the flight never to have flown at all, as was probably done for the 11.09.2001 attacks.

Excuse me?

 

[Desk trauma]

Excuse me?

Just back away slowly, your day will be much brighter.

 

[High Fidelity]

Your buddy had watched far too many Jason Bourne films. Likely under the influence, too.

 

[Goonie]

Just back away slowly, your day will be much brighter.

It can’t be a supporter of there were no planes ‘theory’. Flat earth is almost more credible.

 

[Newtheran]

A friend of mine firmly believes that the US government hijacked the plane.

How would you go about refuting this claim and the various other conspiracy theories surrounding this flight?

In general, most sovereign nations have much more sophisticated ways of engaging in espionage and counter-espionage than this sort of brute force tactic. Assuming that it was hijacked by the US government, where did the plane go? What about the witnesses/passengers on board? Just too many loose ends.

I have no doubt that the jet was hijacked. It was either hijacked by Islamic terrorists trying to divert it to another destination or was hijacked by one of the crew members themselves. If so, this would be the second such incident. The first was Egypt Air 990.

"Usama bin Laden may have gotten the idea for the 9/11 attacks after watching news coverage of the 1999 crash of EgyptAir Flight 990, in which a jihadist co-pilot caused the airliner to nosedive into the Atlantic, according to a first-hand account from one of the terror chief’s top lieutenants.

Bin Laden wondered why the co-pilot in the deliberate crash did not fly the plane into buildings, Nasir al Wuhayshi said in the latest AQAP newsletter, in an account translated by the Long War Journal."

Downing of EgyptAir 990 inspired 9/11 plot, says Al Qaeda newsletter

 

[Tanj]

His reasoning would be on the lines of assuming that there is a secret government conducting black ops. Given that assumption he then reasons ...

No, that's not his assumption, it's his conclusion, formed in the absence of evidence. He then shoe horns the bits of the evidence he likes into the conclusion, and waves away the rest. That's why there's nothing you can say to convince him otherwise.

 

[Trogdor the Burninator]

Far easier for the flight never to have flown at all, as was probably done for the 11.09.2001 attacks.

And for hundreds of airline employees to just keep quiet about it. Hmm - maybe not