Macedonia is Greek !!!!!

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Makedonia is Greek
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Published by Makedonia on Feb 27, 2008
Category: International Affairs
Region: Greece
Target: NO to history-twisting, NO to historical propaganda, NO TO ANY NON-GREEK MAKEDONIA.
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Few people know what is going on in the Balkans at this moment.

The history of the home of modern civilisation, Greece, is about to be changed by some bureaucrats for the sake of stability in BALKANS. But stability can not be achieved if we let the Slavish state of Skopje call itself MACEDONIA.

Macedonia was the home of Alexander the Great, and the Macedonian tribe, like the Spartan, the Athenian and other Hellenic tribes, who all have an over 3000year history, composed Hellas, the country you all know as Greece. In times of Alexander, the Macedonian kingdom, throughout many wars and fights expanded and reached even the Middle East and Northern Africa. In the modern times, Greece has been restricted to its actual territory after long negotiations and treaties aiming at stability in the area.

Yes, the actual Skopian state occupies a small part of the ancient Macedonian territory. And yes, in the southern part of Skopje you can find Macedonian exhibits.

Greece could claim those territories and the few Alexander's descendants that have remained in the area. Greece could demand any ancient Macedonian territory's annexation. BUT WE DON'T. We don't threaten anyone, we don't claim anything. We protect our rights!

In the past century, Greek governments and politicians have done nothing but incline to any foreign demand. In the 1940s, nothing was done when Tito baptised the, until then, county of Vardaska as Macedonia; in the 1990s, nothing was done when Skopje was formally recognised as Former Yugoslavian Republic Of Macedonia.

But, this has proven to be far more than a superficial name problem.
To those who say "what's in a name? too much fuss over nothing.."
There's nothing really in a name.... There is an Athens in the USA(Athens is the Greek Capital and an ancient Greek Goddess of wisdom)... Many Alexandrias as well (cities founded by Alexander the Great)!

The difference lies in the effort that the actual state of FYROM, former Skopje and ex-county of Vardaska is making to distort historical facts, deny Greek History, claim our heroes and territories to be theirs etc etc...

Yet some of them speak the truth...

"We are not related to the northern Greeks who produced leaders like Philip and Alexander the Great. We are a Slav people and our language is closely related to Bulgarian."
[FYROM's Ambassador to Canada, Gyordan Veselinov in an interview with the Ottawa Citizen, 24 February 1999]

"We are Slavs who came to this area in the sixth century... we are not descendants of the ancient Macedonians."
[FYROM'S President Mr. Kiro Gligorov, Foreign Information Service Daily Report, Eastern Europe, February 26, 1992, p. 35.]

"We do not claim to be descendants of Alexander the Great. We are Slavs and we speak a Slav language."
[FYROM'S Ambassador in Washington, Mrs. Ljubica Acevshka, 22 January 1999]

Please invite friends to join and sign our petition in order to stop this masquerade.

Just think for a moment that this so called "stability effort", "democracy vindication", these history-twisting world treaties may affect YOUR country as well some day.. if it hasn't already...

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MANY OF YOU HAVE ALREADY MESSAGED US ABOUT THE COUNTRY FIELD CHOICE OF MACEDONIA (FYROM). We have contacted the site (GoPetition) and they changed the initial Macedonia into this latest version. In fact, USA and other countries have recognized ROM, so the international standards hold to that name for present. The purpose of this petition is to stop FYROM's negociations with EU and, since they need to enter it, they will have to change their name. ANY OTHER SITE WOULD HAVE PROPOSED THE SAME CHOICE IN THE COUNTRY FIELD. WE CANNOT BUT BE PATIENT AND TOLERANT CONSIDERING THAT WE HAVE NOT THE MEANS TO CREATE OUR OWN SITE.

Thank you all for your comprehension.
Petition:
Dear members of the European Council,

We urge you to stop the negotiations with F.Y.R.O.M. until their government adopts a name not including the word “MACEDONIA”. Macedonia is one and has been, is and will always be Greek.

The actual F.Y.R.O.M. has the right to be independent and have a name that corresponds to their nationality and background. They don't have the right to claim historical facts that worldwide historians have established as Greek.

We, people respectful of true history, demand that F.Y.R.O.M. stops claiming a name including the word “MACEDONIA”.

The Makedonia is Greek petition to NO to history-twisting, NO to historical propaganda, NO TO ANY NON-GREEK MAKEDONIA. was written by Makedonia and is hosted free of charge at GoPetition.


Just posting to get the word out.:( :cry:


The crucial day is today in Bucurest as NATO is having its meeting to allow FYROM to enter but Greece is going to veto.... :crosseo: so that they can change their name and at least agree on a compound name ......:groupray: Please pray everything works out....
 
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I am sorry, I am not going there. There are alot of lands in Europe that once belonged to other countries. I could go on and on about how much of Europe is actually German historically and ethnically but then most of you would brand me a Nazi.

Ethnicity has very little to do with being Orthodox and the day the ethnic Orthodox in this country begin to understand that concept is the day that we will be that much closer to uniting the non-canonical situation of having a Church in this country divided among a dozen or so jurisdictions!!!
 
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Has nothing to do with Orthodoxy agree but has to do with ethnic boundaries and what is right... Are we all happy of how the Indians own no land except the one given to them... As Orthodox Christians we should close our eyes and ears to the injustice?... We demand nothing we want to protest against identity theft.. that is all... Sorry you feel this way Michael...
 
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Has nothing to do with Orthodoxy agree but has to do with ethnic boundaries and what is right... Are we all happy of how the Indians own no land except the one given to them... As Orthodox Christians we should close our eyes and ears to the injustice?... We demand nothing we want to protest against identity theft.. that is all... Sorry you feel this way Michael...
Ok, ethnic boundaries. It is time the world give back to Germany: the Sudetenland, the Memel, Danzig, the Polish lands that are ethnically German, Alsace and Lorraine and Austria. What is your point?

This forum is about Orthodoxy, not ethnicity. I guess the Bible is wrong when it says "neither Greek, nor Jew, nor Hebrew..."
 
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ok if this thread is going to be too troublesome to you then the mods can move it to the debate area...

As. per your comparison this is no tabout boundaries but name theft...What about if another ethnic group alient to Germany... called themselves Germany....
 
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FYROM put these propaganda about us yesterday.... the American govnt't politely "disaproved" ....big deal...

Making fun of our president and ridiculing our flag... While it is proven they were hitler's collaborators....


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Yeah, umm I think people are misunderstanding. Greece isn't vetoing because it wants the land. Greece is upset because that area, and the people have nothing to do with the Ancient Kingdom of Macedonia.

I know Greece doesn't want the land; I think they (and Serbia) should get it anyway so they can re-evangelize the area.
 
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