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nick garai

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I read this verse recently and thought wow this cannot be Jesus speaking. Can anyone please comment on this verse regarding His character It almost sounds like something out of the Koran.

Here is the verse:

"But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them - bring them here and kill them in front of me." Luke 19:27

PS: I made a mistake. The verse is in Luke 19 not Luke 20. Sorry
 
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I don't know how you got that, but Luke 20:27 doesn't say that. Luke 20:27 says, "Now some Sadducees (who contend that there is no resurrection) came to him." And the story goes on to tell how the Sadducees were trying to trick Jesus by asking him a philosophical question about marriage and the resurrection. Could you maybe have gotten your textual references mixed up?
 
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I did find the verse you referenced in Luke 19:27 in the NIV translation. I don't know what it means, but it is the final statement as part of a parable. The parable is about a hard and unjust king who takes power and the disobedience of his servant. It doesn't have an easy interpretation that I can see. However, the greater context of the chapter has this parable in between a story about Jesus going to Zacchaeus' house and a story about Jesus riding into Jerusalem on a colt. At the end of the Jerusalem story, it says,

Luke 19:41 "As he approached Jerusalem and saw the city, he wept over it 42 and said, “If you, even you, had only known on this day what would bring you peace—but now it is hidden from your eyes. 43 The days will come upon you when your enemies will build an embankment against you and encircle you and hem you in on every side. 44 They will dash you to the ground, you and the children within your walls. They will not leave one stone on another, because you did not recognize the time of God’s coming to you.”

Maybe there is a correlation?
 
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Luke 19, from verse 11 to 27 is about Jesus in His Kingdom in heaven both now and after the final days and not immediately on earth like the Jews thought as stated in verse 11. The enemies will be those who do not except Jesus as Lord and die without Him.
 
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"But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them - bring them here and kill them in front of me." Luke 19:27

THis verse comes from a parable which is also recorded in Mathew. Mathew's version of it is worded differently.

Mathew 25:30 And cast the worthless servant into the outer darkness. In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.’




Luke also records other scriptures differently. See the distiction between these verses:

Luke 14:26 (NKJV) “If anyone comes to Me and does not hate his father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters, yes, and his own life also, he cannot be My disciple.

Matthew 10:37 (NKJV) He who loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me. And he who loves son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me.
As we can see Jesus is not teaching that his disciples must hate anyone, but he is simply saying that they cannot put anyone above Him. Jesus actually teaches that we must love all people as our self. We must love even our enemies. I think that Mathews version seems more reliable.

Its also notable that these are English translations. I dont know how the original Greek language of these texts are worded. Perhaps it may not be translated correctly. I cannot say.
 
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Matthew is worded differently in comparison with Luke, as aforementioned above.
I would assume Matthew's telling of the parable may be more accurate, consider he was an Apostle of Our Lord.

Luke was a Greek physician, living in Antioch.
From what I remember reading he interviewed those who knew Jesus personally.
Perhaps he recorded as he was told of the parable.

Also note, the consequences are meant for His enemies, those who delight themselves in wickedness.
Although Our Lord is loving and forgiving, we need to remember that Our God is JUST! Executing judgement on the evildoers is necessary.


God bless!
 
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I read this verse recently and thought wow this cannot be Jesus speaking.
As a matter of fact Luke 19:27 (KJV) does have the words of Christ, and they are awful yet accurate.

When Christ comes at His Second Coming He will indeed destroy all of His enemies, and they all will be cast into the Lake of Fire. Even before that He will bring severe judgments upon this earth and many will perish. Remember that when the Flood came, all the inhabitants of the earth perished because of their wickedness and their refusal to repent. Only Noah and his family were saved. That was also the fate of Sodom and Gomorrah.

Don't ever forget that some choose to be enemies of Christ rather than His servants. They are self-condemned and they will receive their just reward. The wrath of God abides on those who reject Christ (Jn 3:36).
 
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Maybe its how luke words it that is a little disagreeable. He has Christ saying that others must kill his enemies in front of Him. Yet its God alone administers judgment and punishment and we are to love our enemies, not kill them. Maybe it refers to angels, i dont know but i see the OP's point. It does sound a little Koran like in a way.
 
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