Lucifer in Isaiah 14 can't be anyone else but Satan...

[ewq1938]

Aren't all angels shining beings?

Not all are called a morning star.

 

[Sammy-San]

Not all are called a morning star.

Is that a position in heaven, appearance description?

 

[Sammy-San]

They are angels that have a specific job and like all angels they are male.

H3742
כּרוּב
kerûb
BDB Definition:
1) cherub, cherubim (plural)
1a) an angelic being
1a1) as guardians of Eden
1a2) as flanking God’s throne
1a3) as an image form hovering over the Ark of the Covenant
1a4) as the chariot of Jehovah (figuratively)
Part of Speech: noun masculine
A Related Word by BDB/Strong’s Number: of uncertain derivation
Same Word by TWOT Number: 1036

They have human and animal faces in Ezekiel.

 

[ewq1938]

The Bible says that angels DO NOT MARRY in heaven -- the fallen ones violated this while on earth -- Bible never said angels don't have SEX/GENDER

Obviously in heaven is different than on Earth. In heaven means there are no female angels plus Godly angels in heaven don't marry but rebel angels that left that habitation did come and marry human women.

 

[ewq1938]

Is that a position in heaven, appearance description?

No, it's about importance not appearance.

 

[Sammy-San]

Obviously in heaven is different than on Earth. In heaven means there are no female angels plus Godly angels in heaven don't marry but rebel angels that left that habitation did come and marry human women.

I thought angels arent made in God's image.

What does it mean that angels "married" human women? I know they mated with them, but what does it mean that they married them?

 

[ewq1938]

They have human and animal faces in Ezekiel.

Oh? What verse says those were Cherubim?

 

[Sammy-San]

No, it's about importance not appearance.

The Bible says cherub not archangel. Are you saying they arent mutually exclusive?

 

[Sammy-San]

Oh? What verse says those were Cherubim?

Who Is Satan?: What Does the Bible Say About the Devil?

However, in their heavenly state according to the Bible, a cherub is a large creature—up to 18 feet in height8 with 8 foot long wings.9 In the prophet Ezekiel's vision, the cherubim (plural of "cherub") had four wings.10 Under their wings were human-like hands that could could be used to carry things.10 All the surfaces of the cherubim, including the wings, were covered with eyes.11 Each cherub had four faces, one "of a cherub, the second the face of a man, the third the face of a lion, and the fourth the face of an eagle."12 The New Testament book of Revelation describes similar creatures, only with six wings each, with faces of a lion, an ox, a man, and an eagle.13 So, these creatures look nothing like the cute little cherubim you can buy for your garden or bookshelf. Satan himself is described as being "perfect in beauty," being adorned with all kinds of precious stones.4

 

[ewq1938]

I thought angels arent made in God's image.

What does it mean that angels "married" human women? I know they mated with them, but what does it mean that they married them?

Married as in they got married literally.

 

[Sammy-San]

Married as in they got married literally.

They didnt have pastors and clerks back then.

 

[ewq1938]

The Bible says cherub not archangel. Are you saying they arent mutually exclusive?

An archangel is a higher ranking angel and so are Cherubim. They perform special tasks and have special duties other angels do not.

 

[ewq1938]

Who Is Satan?: What Does the Bible Say About the Devil?

I asked which verse.

 

[ewq1938]

They didnt have pastors and clerks back then.

So? Are you saying Adam and Eve weren't married then?

 

[Sammy-San]

So? Are you saying Adam and Eve weren't married then?

God was in Eden. What exactly are you saying? I am confused.

 

[Sammy-San]

I asked which verse.

Ezekiel 10.

 

[Sammy-San]

An archangel is a higher ranking angel and so are Cherubim. They perform special tasks and have special duties other angels do not.

What's the difference between archangel and cherubim? Appearance, they rule different aspects of heaven?

 

[PastorFreud]

Zec 5:5

Then the angel that talked with me went forth, and said unto me, Lift up now thine eyes, and see what is this that goeth forth.


Zec 5:6

And I said, What is it? And he said, This is an ephah that goeth forth. He said moreover, This is their resemblance through all the earth.

Zec 5:7

And, behold, there was lifted up a talent of lead: and this is a woman that sitteth in the midst of the ephah.

Zec 5:8

And he said, This is wickedness. And he cast it into the midst of the ephah; and he cast the weight of lead upon the mouth thereof.

Zec 5:9

Then lifted I up mine eyes, and looked, and, behold,

there came out two women, and the wind was in their wings;
for they had wings like the wings of a stork:

and they lifted up the ephah between the earth and the heaven.

5:10

Then said I to the angel that talked with me, Whither do these bear the ephah?

5:11

And he said unto me, To build it an house in the land of Shinar: and it shall be established, and set there upon her own base.

Apparently saying "Oh I had that explained to me once" resolves the issue. Believe the doctrines taught to you and do not question them.

 

[ewq1938]

God was in Eden. What exactly are you saying? I am confused.

I'm saying marriage is not dependent on "pastors and clerks".

 

[Anto9us]

Who says I never questioned anything PastorFreud?

I considered the "evil female spirits" in the article -- I don't buy that either

sometimes a cigar is just a cigar, sometimes lady angels are just lady angels