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Louisiana priest arrested for alleged threesome on church altar: report

Discussion in 'One Bread, One Body - Catholic' started by Michie, Oct 9, 2020.

  1. Michie

    Michie Human rights begin in the womb. Supporter

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    Yes I have wondered the same. I really do not understand it though. Why become a priest? Is this part of the ‘infiltration’ I keep hearing about? For what purpose?
     
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    It could be a deliberate infiltration ala Taylor Marshall, or a solitary debauched individual infiltrating on his own, or maybe he was debauched in seminary or afterwards. Maybe he had a family history of abuse, maybe a priest did a similar thing to him in his youth. It needs to come out how this fellow got to where he did what he did. My hunch is there is a lot of sordid history to this. He didn't just wake up one day and decide to do it.

    What would be worth knowing is the connections of these two women. One sounds like she might have done this before. Where? When? With whom? Who knows and covered it up? How big is this?
     
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    There were two threads on the same topic and they were merged.

     
  4. Michie

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  6. Michie

    Michie Human rights begin in the womb. Supporter

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    Rod Dreher? Not sure. Probably would be easy enough to research though.
     
  7. Xenophon

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    I don't think so.
     
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    Somehow Satanists have an instinct for territories of unseen warfare. Desecrating a holy space is like 'capture the flag.'
     
  9. Michie

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    I still do not understand someone dedicating his life to the priesthood only to do something like this. His pictures are disturbing he looks ill to me. Both mentally and physically. As Chevy said earlier, there is probably many layers to be uncovered. And they were filming it with lighting and everything. For whom were they doing that for?
     
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    In the Pennsylvannia report, two priests were abusing (very sadistic BDSM stuff) young boys on the altar and were making a lot of money from selling the film of it a large network of perverts. It's likely this was done for similar reasons.
     
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    Hmm... well, the article is that 'everybody knew' which is true. These things are almost never a secret except to those who turn a blind eye. He's not Catholic and so doesn't have a stake in it. He's quoting some publications about it significantly older than the article in question, isn't he?
     
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    Well, everybody didn't know, but Dreher did and he sat on the information. I wish he had revealed what he knew. He has made his business to know about McCarrick, and he knew but just kept his files.
     
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    In the case of Jimmy Saville, 'everybody knew' but every journalist knew that if they wrote a report about it, it wouldn't be published. Most tabloids wouldn't even touch it - In all of Britain only one would publish the report.

     
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    I know a lot about a lot of people. Not that I have a publisher, but I just keep my 'files.'

    Heck, on this forum, I've had posts removed for telling people what I knew about certain famous persons despite including evidence) even evidence that has been already been reported on.

    For example, Der Spiegel (a magazine known for it's high quality investigative journalism) ran an article about Bill Clinton's involvement in the murder of 3 teenagers in Kentucky and I've had posts removed from this forum (American Politics subforum) for quoting from it.
     
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    Point is he complains about a bishop who 'covered up' but I'm not so sure he didn't do exactly the same thing concerning McCarrick. I want the filth to be revealed. I want clean bishops who don't hide things. I want journalists to tell the truth rather than reserve it.
     
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    The Church has been infiltrated! I have no doubt about that in my mind. Praying for healing and cleansing. Lord Jesus, come heal your Church.
     
  18. chevyontheriver

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    ... cleansing ...

    Bring it on!
     
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    Fr. Clark and two women were arrested Sept. 30 and charged with obscenity after a neighbor observed through a window that they were filming sexual relations atop the altar, which was illuminated by stage lights.

    NEW ORLEANS, La. — Archbishop Gregory Aymond on Saturday consecrated a new altar at the Louisiana parish where a priest reportedly filmed a pornographic video atop the parish altar with two women last month. Details have emerged about the priest, who is expected to face criminal and canonical charges after the episode.

    Those who know the priest say he kept to himself, while a seminary professor said Fr. Clark was a poor student who made little effort, which should have been a red flag.

    “The desecration of this church and altar is demonic, demonic,” Archbishop Aymond said at Sts Peter and Paul Church in Pearl River, Louisiana Oct. 10, during a Mass at which he also reconsecrated the parish church.

    “Let me be clear, there is no excuse for what took place here. It is sinful, and it is totally unacceptable. Travis has been unfaithful to his vocation; he’s violated his commitment to celibacy; and also, he was using that which was holy to do demonic things,” Archbishop Aymond said, according to the Clarion Herald.

    “He will not be able to serve in priestly ministry, and he will not be able to serve as a priest anytime in the future,” Archbishop Aymond emphasized, while urging the parish to “continue to focus on the Lord Jesus and his mission and ministry here.”

    The altar upon which Fr. Clark and two women engaged in filmed sexual congress was destroyed and burned at Archbishop Aymond’s order, which came as soon he learned on Oct. 8 the details of Clark’s activity in the parish Church, a spokesperson told CNA.

    Fr. Clark and two women were arrested Sept. 30 and charged with obscenity after a neighbor observed through a window that they were filming sexual relations atop the altar, which was illuminated by stage lights. The priest was removed from ministry by the archbishop on Oct. 1.

    One of the women with whom Fr. Clark made the pornographic film refers to herself as a “Satanatrix,” and the “proprietress of the Church of Satanatrix,” who posted on social media Sept. 29 that she would be traveling with another woman to “defile a house of God.”

    The women’s attorney said in a statement this week that it is “appalling” that his clients are “being vilified” and facing charges for conduct he said was not illegal, because the church in which the filming took place was on private property. But police said the church’s altar was visible from the street, apparently through the glass doors of the parish entrance.

    Archbishop Aymond celebrated Mass at the parish Oct. 3, last weekend, after Fr. Clark was arrested. The archbishop celebrated Mass on the desecrated altar, an archdiocesan spokesperson told CNA, “because we were not aware of what had happened in the church.”

    “As soon as the archbishop learned of the details, arrangements were made for the altar to be removed and a new one consecrated and the church reconsecrated,” the spokesperson added.

    The archdiocese said that “there was no desecrating of the Blessed Sacrament,” during the sexual episode, and that “we are not aware of any other sacred vessels being desecrated at this time.”

    Fr. Clark was ordained a priest in 2013 and became pastor of St. Peter and Paul last year. The archdiocese told CNA that the priest had “never before been the subject of any sexual misconduct claims.”

    When he was ordained a deacon in 2012, Fr. Clark told the Clarion Herald that among his role models was Fr. Patrick Wattigny, a high school chaplain who admitted this month that in 2013 he sexually abused a minor, and who is accused of sending “grooming” text messages to a high school student earlier this year.


    Priests in the Archdiocese of New Orleans told CNA that Fr. Clark is a quiet guy with a reputation among the presbyterate for keeping to himself. Priests in the archdiocese said that Fr. Clark’s nickname in the seminary was Lurch, in reference to the gloomy, shambling butler on television’s The Addams Family.

    Some priests said that Fr. Clark is regarded as kind, attentive to the Serra Club and other projects, but was known by some to have a compulsive video game habit, sometimes staying up all night to play games.

    Priests also told CNA that they are praying for Fr. Clark and his parish. Some speculated that the priest might have gotten involved with the women through a pornography addiction, and failed to appreciate the escalating circumstances until it was too late, especially regarding the demonic aspect of the pornographic performance he filmed.

    Still, one priest said that while many in the presbyterate are surprised by Fr. Clark's action, the priest has no excuse for his choices.

    Chistopher Baglow, a theologian who taught Fr. Clark in seminary, told CNA that he believes Fr. Clark’s misdeeds point to a problem with seminary evaluation.

    In the seminary, nothing about Fr. Clark’s behavior suggested that the priest would later do the things he is accused of, Baglow said. But he did recall concerns about the seminarian.

    The theologian remembered Clark for being a student who didn’t participate in class, was negligent of assignments and seemed often “to be flying under the radar.”

    “It was clear he wasn’t trying, and some made it known,” Baglow said. “It was often countered that pastoral gifts and holiness do not require great theological genius, and the concern was expressed by some colleagues that we should avoid focusing too much on academics.”

    But Baglow said his concern about Fr. Clark, or other students who gave evidence of not trying, was not about academics, but about character.

    Baglow said he does not expect academic excellence from all students. But he does believe seminaries should expect effort, and evidence of virtue in students and seminary life.

    “Tolerating mediocrity in a man allows tolerance for other kinds of unacceptable things.”

    “Mediocrity can be a cover for other problems — sometimes very serious problems,” Baglow said.

    Condoning “mediocrity” in the evaluation of seminarians, the theologian said, lowers the Church’s standards in the caliber of men who become priests. The Church should accept men for priesthood who want to be excellent academically, spiritually, pastorally, and morally, Baglow told CNA.

    The theologian told CNA that in his view “the system isn’t broken, it’s just missing a part.”

    He urged that seminaries develop committees of “well-formed knowledgeable Catholic lay people who are part of vocation evaluation and discernment.”

    Such committees would give recommendations about the suitability of candidates for orders independent of seminary staff or faculty, Baglow said, giving bishops the benefit of perspective and judgment outside the clerical and ecclesiastical milieu.

    CNA asked the Archdiocese of New Orleans what canonical penalties Fr. Clark could face, and whether he will face the prospect of penal or administrative laicization.

    “It is Archbishop Aymond’s intention that Travis Clark never again practice priestly ministry. He is in conversations with canon lawyers about the appropriate actions to take moving forward,” the archdiocesan spokesperson said.

    After ‘Demonic’ Desecration, New Orleans Church Reconsecrated as Details About Priest Emerge
     
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