Lords Prayer

[GaelSong]

I have noticed that when catholics say the Lords prayer they finish at 'Deliver us from evil' while protestants say the whole prayer. Why the difference?
Newday

 

[Kristos]

Luke 11:1-4

 

[PaladinValer]

Um, that isn't true...

 

[Veritas]

Catholic will sometimes add it at the end like at Mass, however, the scriptures do not contain the additional words. Therefore, we tend to recite it as it is in the bible. Just goes to show that Protestant do add to scripture!

 

[Apollo Celestio]

I don't see it as wrong to add to it. I add more to it since I have personal things to say to him and I like to word it so I know what i'm saying. How glad am I that our loving God allows us to pray what we want. (Nothing wrong with sticking with whats in the book either.)

 

[tadoflamb]

It's called the "Protestant Express."

It's just one way we 'out' Protestants. We stop and they keep on going!

 

[GaelSong]

Thanks for the answers. I just went through my bible and it does indeed finish at deliver us from evil, but I was bought up to say the added parts.

 

[Hap]

Thanks for the answers. I just went through my bible and it does indeed finish at deliver us from evil, but I was bought up to say the added parts.

The last part of the Lords Prayer is call the doxology and the earliest records of this addition can be found in the Didache. It's kinda ironic that the Protestants follow the bible plus tradition and the Catholics would follow the Bible alone.

 

[Gwenyfur]

It's called the "Protestant Express."

It's just one way we 'out' Protestants. We stop and they keep on going!

Too Funny

 

[Fireinfolding]

Luke 11:4 ends at deliver us from evil

Its in Mat 16:13 it goes further.

Mat 6:13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.

Honestly... the end sentence in the Catholic bible is not there in Mat 6:13?

Curious, because maybe His is not the Kingdom or the power or the glory

Peace

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[Fireinfolding]

True I found it Looked up a catholic online bible and found one... love the added commentary too

 

[Hammster]

Well, since reciting it does no good anyway, I am not sure what the big debate is about. The disciples did not as Jesus WHAT to pray, but HOW to pray. It should really be used as a guideline. See Jesus' remarks about vain repetitions.

 

[tadoflamb]

Honestly... the end sentence in the Catholic bible is not there in Mat 6:13?

I looked it up in my Jerusalem Bible. It's not there. It's not in my NAB either.

I wonder what's up with that.

(goes to dust off grandmothers KJV)

 

[Fireinfolding]

I looked it up in my Jerusalem Bible. It's not there. It's not in my NAB either.

I wonder what's up with that.

(goes to dust off grandmothers KJV)

Whew... Im telling ya Tadster, I'd hate to be the man who adds anything...

Good thing I didnt do it

Given His is the Kingdom and the power and glory, I sure hope the guy might gets off easy.

Dont throw me none lol

Psalm 145:11 They shall speak of the glory of thy kingdom, and talk of thy power;


Got me talking

Peace

Fi-ya

 

[Tonks]

Honestly... the end sentence in the Catholic bible is not there in Mat 6:13?

Curious, because maybe His is not the Kingdom or the power or the glory

Peace

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It doesn't appear in the Greek either...in the Vulgate it it is rendered as such:

et ne inducas nos in temptationem sed libera nos a malo

 

[tadoflamb]

It doesn't appear in the Greek either...in the Vulgate it it is rendered as such:

et ne inducas nos in temptationem sed libera nos a malo

Well, that about does it for me!

Blessings,

Tad

 

[lionroar0]

Lords Prayer


I have noticed that when catholics say the Lords prayer they finish at 'Deliver us from evil' while protestants say the whole prayer. Why the difference?
Newday

It's a later addition to the Lord's Prayer.

Peace

 

[tadoflamb]

Whew... Im telling ya Tadster, I'd hate to be the man who adds anything...

Good thing I didnt do it

Given His is the Kingdom and the power and glory, I sure hope the guy might gets off easy.

Dont throw me none lol

Psalm 145:11 They shall speak of the glory of thy kingdom, and talk of thy power;


Got me talking

Peace

Fi-ya

Yeah, I'd hate to be that guy too....

but, it's not like it's unbiblical.

We say it at mass everyday.

Still, I'm curious, how did it get into the KJV?

Pax,

Tad

 

[Fireinfolding]

Yeah, I'd hate to be that guy too....

but, it's not like it's unbiblical.

We say it at mass everyday.

Still, I'm curious, how did it get into the KJV?

Pax,

Tad

Todays scribes dont have as much intergrity with scripts as they used too?

Dont know really There is dumb stuff thats off, for instance... take the thirty peices of silver in Mathew 27:9 both Catholic bibles (well the one Im online with) as well as others (my KJV) show Jeremiah spake concerning it. Its NOT in Jeremiah its shown in Zechariah 11:12 & 13. You wont find thirty peices of silver ever mentioned in Jeremiah.

They did it on the RED WORDS GUYS!!

Who is hiring these folks?

True Along with others lol

Peace

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[Fireinfolding]

It doesn't appear in the Greek either...in the Vulgate it it is rendered as such:

et ne inducas nos in temptationem sed libera nos a malo

Someones pulling the wool over our eyes Nah... they are often little things. I recall the days when the gospels were (to me) all contradictory in certain places. I was one of those who would say... so WHICH IS IT???!!!! LOL But then as Im constantly being taught He can show all together, and often not after a patern readily seen but better then the one often that tries to explain it away. So I delight in them now, I think to myself... "Wow, what is this?" lol something to majorly dig into here! Its ones attitude toward them. Rather then these things make me doubt (like they used to) something quickens in me to see something I havent consider yet. It always blesses me.

Father forgive me, I take back all the times I said, "Thine is the kingdom and the power and the glory for ever. Amen"

It still is though... thankfully its someone who just wanted to really praise God at the end of that prayer


He is ~the Amen~ anyways

Peace

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