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Discussion in 'General Theology' started by icedragon101, Dec 2, 2016.

  1. icedragon101

    icedragon101 Senior Veteran

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    I would like to ask you what is says about me that I am loosing interest in Christian Forums, Church and Christianity in general. I guess i am a t a place in my life where all of this seems irrelevant and a waste of time. I don't see it as helpful or useful above and beyond teaching use to be good and relate to people in a loving and kind way. While Christianity helps make sense of the world. It no longer help me with my life. It seems like chasing God as been a big waste of time. I have spent 30 years chasing God and i am not better of for it. I cannot say I would recommend it to others either. It seem my passion just has died or evaporated. God has disappeared. I am more confused then ever and I am to to point that I don't care anymore, I am indifferent to this whole subject, It seems like God is indifferent to me or just not interested in me, he just doesn't care. so why should I care anymore? when I come to CF I am not interested in what is being said, seems pointless.Many of the converstion on CF are just pointless and immature. When I go to Church I just don't want to be there, seems pointless and not helpful, when I read my bible & pray seems pointless and not helpful. Just saying that is where I am at. don't know what to do about this don't know why it is happening and suggestions.
     
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  2. Sultan Of Swing

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    Persevere, and never neglect reading Scripture daily, especially at these low points, to listen to the very voice of God and apply it to your life.
     
  3. Winken

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    Accept the fact that it is you who feels all these things, not the Holy Spirit of God, who will never leave or forsake you. He isn't going to look at your post and accept it as your "parting shot." He IS, and always will be, your Savior.

    p.s. The Bible says nothing about "chasing God." He doesn't go anywhere.
     
  4. Paul of Eugene OR

    Paul of Eugene OR Finally Old Enough Supporter

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    Many people are insecure about God and you could bend your energies towards helping them understand that God loves them and they are going to be fine before God without worrying too much about exact theological answers. You can rejoice and celebrate our common Christian salvation.
     
  5. bettercallpaul

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    That is probably my fault. I try to enjoy myself here and being childish is part of that enjoyment.I don't think God wants us to be serious and debate serious topics all the time. CF should only be a very small part of your faith journey, in my opinion.It is how you live your life out there that matters most.
     
  6. Tree of Life

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    It's good to acknowledge where you're at. I just have one question concerning your expectations. You say that right now the Bible/God/church seems "unhelpful". What do you expect "helpful" would look like?
     
  7. Galatea

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    The chasing God line stood out to me. You don't need to chase God, He'll pursue you. He knocks on the door, you either open it or not.

    But, as long as you live, He'll stand out the door. Sometimes you can hear Him knock, sometimes, it's so noisy inside- the noise in your heart drowns out the knocking.

    Can you hear Him knocking? Or is something inside drowning out the knocking?
     
  8. jimmyjimmy

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    It is evident by your post that you don't seem to have any idea what Christianity is. I do not say that to be rude. Quite the opposite is true. Trust me, you are not rejecting Christianity, but: moralistic therapeutic deism, and it's a good thing that you are rejecting it.
     
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  9. Winken

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    SHARP!!! Spot on!!! Lord, break through the fog!!!
     
  10. bettercallpaul

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    I think what works for some people is letting God chase them. Then you decide to slow down and let God catch up to you.
     
  11. John Hyperspace

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    I would suggest a problem with root. Remember the parable of the sower? It describes everyone:

    Mark 4:3 Hearken; Behold, there went out a sower to sow:
    4 And it came to pass, as he sowed, some fell by the way side, and the fowls of the air came and devoured it up.
    5 And some fell on stony ground, where it had not much earth; and immediately it sprang up, because it had no depth of earth:
    6 But when the sun was up, it was scorched; and because it had no root, it withered away.
    7 And some fell among thorns, and the thorns grew up, and choked it, and it yielded no fruit.
    8 And other fell on good ground, and did yield fruit that sprang up and increased; and brought forth, some thirty, and some sixty, and some an hundred.
    9 And he said unto them, He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.

    Now, what I would suggest is that your disinterest is being caused because you're not being fed. You've mistaken what we might call "worldly Christianity" or "manmade Christianity" (or, as I've heard it called by some "Churchianity") for the true worship of God, and have not been fed with understanding, and the knowledge of God. Everything in the scripture actually talks about things we all know to be true, and is practical information: but this truth is obscured by the misunderstandings of men, who further an understanding which is "vanity" and a "chasing after the wind":

    It's because of this that people become disallusioned, that things like, atheism, exist; why people look around confused and saying "I don't understand"; it is because of poor teachers, who teach things that are not, as though they are; and confound the people: and so that which was is that which will be: Jeremiah 10:21, Jeremiah 12:10, Jeremiah 23:2, Ecclesiastes 1:9, Jeremiah 16:19

    For instance, when you say "no longer help me with my life" this shows me that you don't understand, or, you would understand that your life is exactly being helped at every moment, and is why it is where it is. But it happens such as this: Psalms 32:9: so you see, you are going to be steered where you need to go, in order to get understanding; for as long as you have no understanding, you're like a mindless beast (this is not meant as an insult, but as an analogue): so everything is you being manipulated, even now. It's because of the lack of root; this is what you need: a depth of understanding which you weren't given, because there was no understanding in the ones who delivered the word to you.

    But the good news is, you will be given that understanding when God purposes it be given; as only Christ can open the seals: Isaiah 29:10-12, Revelation 5:5, Luke 24:45, 1 Timothy 2:3-4: just wait for it, it will come in the appointed season: Job 14:14.
     
  12. 2PhiloVoid

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    I've experienced this kind of "evaporation" from time to time. But, when I get to those places in life where I feel like, "what's the use?", then I have to ask myself: Who is going to pick me up when I die? And I know I will die, so I can't just shrug my mortality off as a nice little afterthought that can be easily dispensed with.

    ...the fact that you're feeling this way might also mean you've outgrown whatever level of perception about the Christian faith you've thus far accepted. At this point, you can choose to become better or bitter ...

    I'd recommend that you choose to hang in there, work through it, and become better. :cool:

    Peace,
    2PhiloVoid
     
  13. BeStill&Know

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    Oh! I thought what you are going through happens to all Christians? If they've been Christians for many years. I've been there a couple or more times my self.
    I wonder could you be hungry, in some way?
    Are you angry, at God, yourself or someone else?
    I've gone through several periods that I let go of God's Word and became very anemic to the point of death, then followed such extreme loneliness, that I didn't know even existed. Mental, physical or emotional exhaustion where it's tiresome just to THINK, can start pulling you away from God.
    Speak to God about all you said to us.
    If you will hang on even when you see NO light at the end of a very very long tunnel, (like He has always done for His Children ) He will feed you His True Bread, give you Living Waters, He will engage you as His Best Friend, and trade your burdens for His Easy Yoke.
    if you belong to a loving church, recruit others to sustain you during this dry period.
     
  14. SeventyOne

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    Sorry, I don't understand the concept of "chasing God". It sounds like someone running around behind him screaming, "Love me! Love me!" I can see how that would get old after a while, especially when the perception is there has been no response.

    Might be a really good thing to get to the point where chasing God around seems pointless because it is. He actually hasn't moved anywhere. Sometimes the concept of the gospel is confused. In a nutshell, God creates man. Man sins creating a separation from God that a sinless man has to cross to reconcile man back to God. Problem 1, there are no sinless men. Problem 2, no man, only God, is actually able to close the gap between man and God. Solution, God sends His Son as a man to present Himself as the sacrifice we need as both the necessary sinless man and as the God able to present man back to God, closing the gap. Now the Father tells man that the Son has closed the gap between man and God and we can again approach the throne only through the right-standing of the Son, now both God and man. Now, we men are able to reject ourselves and accept the right-standing of the Son as our one and only bridge to the Father and His Throne. No chasing involved. God has remained quite stationary this whole time.

    The big question really is that when we are honest and ask ourselves when we die we know we will be with the Father because {answer} and then answer with anything other than, or in addition to, our complete trust in what the Son has done on our behalf, then we know we aren't actually within the true Christian faith.

    I do understand getting over the forums for a while. I've actually been around here off and on for the better part of 10 years (maybe more). The last time I came back, I started with a fresh name to just sort of shake off the old conversations and start again anew. So, taking breaks is something I agree are useful and necessary from time to time.
     
  15. Greg J.

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    It says you are either normal or have some clinical depression (which, unfortunately, it also normal). Are you feeling like this about many other things in your life?
    If you are learning to be good and how to relate to people, you must be attending a class on how to fit peaceably into society. But it has nothing to do with the main "thing" of Christianity. What you should be getting from church is help in your own efforts to connect to Jesus himself. If you have not believed what you've read in Scripture, then you need help directly from God. Reading and listening to testimonies by people of their encounters with God can be very helpful. Look for the ones for which it was unlikely that someone made up a story. Some sound hokey, others ring true.
    Increasingly knowing the Lord better helps you with your soul—over time—but it may or may not help you with your life. It depends on how you're evaluating your life and what your faith in God is like. Your faith affects how much of the Lord you experience.
    We are to seek God, who is near, which is a fancy way of saying do what he said to know him better. You don't get to know another person by reading or hearing about him. You only get to know him by interacting with him. The Holy Spirit does this more the more you have experienced what he experienced, i.e., be obedient and God will handle the other parts. This is what transforms you into his likeness and brings a deeper faith in him and his promises.
    What confuses you? (Who have you been listening to?) Or, if you've been reading Scripture, why have you not believed? You need to deny the evidence of your experiences in favor of clearly stated truths. God is 100% faithful. Scripture "works" as written. Any problems are at our end, not God's.

    Perhaps you have been programmed with false expectations (since we all have). He is alive and will interact with you, but if you don't do what he already said to do, you might as well be telling him you don't want that or more of him, either.
    Yes, indeed, unfortunately. We live in an era of neediness and self-righteousness (they feed each other). The only escape from the loop comes from knowing the Lord, not the thoughts of men. The genuine care of others can help a lot, though (which is in short supply, even in churches). It is important to be meeting with supportive Christians regularly (often found in Bible study with peers).
    These things are mere tools to help you to connect with Jesus yourself, but you have to want that. In fact, if you genuinely want that, he'll do most of the work. You need to read Scripture as an avenue to know Jesus better, but knowing Scripture is not enough.

    Ask him for what you think you need to help you with your life, and persist in asking. Btw, what you need is more of Him. Do what he said to do to receive from him. Your focus every day should be Jesus. Talk to him as you go through the day. Seek not to please yourself with your decisions, but seek to please him. He is more than happy to help and give generously, but it sounds like you aren't positioned to receive what wants to give you at the moment. What you need is to trust him and that what he said is true, and he grants more of himself (which is awesome) to those who are trying to:

    He answered: “ ‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind’; and, ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’’” (Luke 10:27, 1984 NIV)
     
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  16. icedragon101

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    I would like to say thank-you to all who posted, most were helpful and encourage, 3 really stand out. 2philoVoid, Be still & know, & Greg J. the dept of maturity is very refreshing. How ever there were some that really showed the immaturity of this forum Jimmy Jimmy,John Hyperspace and Seventy 0ne all seem to have take my question personally or found the wording offensive and not to there liking. Sorry that is the immaturity I am talking about.
     
  17. GirdYourLoins

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    I'd say maybe you need to find a new church. I believe that God uses denominations to place people in a part of the body that suits them. It sounds to me like you may need a fresh start in a church with a different perspective. I'm a Pentecostal (and apparently there are people who hate us) and I believe being a Christian is about having a relationship with God in all of the persons of the Trinity. We know God the Father through Jesus Christ and are empowered by the Holy Spirit. As it says in Zechariah 4:6 Not by might, nor by power, but by my spirit says the Lord. Would you describe yourself as having a personal relationship with God? If not ask him.
     
  18. SeventyOne

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    I took nothing personally or offensive. Sorry for giving you such an impression.
     
  19. BeStill&Know

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    Was thinking about you this afternoon. These lyrics connected me to my cry for God in those seasons.
    Lyrics
    I'm at a loss for words, there's nothing to say
    I sit in silence wondering what led me to this place

    How did my heart become so lifeless and cold
    Where did the passion go?


    When all my efforts seem like chasing wind
    I've used up all my strength and there's nothing left to give
    I've lost the feeling and I'm numb to the core
    I can't fake it anymore.


    chorus:
    Here I am at the end
    I'm in need of resurrection
    Only You can take this empty shell and raise it from the dead
    What I've lost to the world what seems far beyond redemption
    You can take the pieces in Your hand and make me whole again, again


    You speak and all creation falls to its knees
    You raise Your hand and calm the waves of the raging sea
    You have a way of turning winter to spring
    Make something beautiful out of all this suffering

    chorus 2:
    Here I am once again I'm in need of resurrection
    Only You can take this empty shell and raise it from the dead
    What I've lost to the world what seems far beyond redemption
    You can take the pieces in Your hand and make me whole again, again

    You have a way of turning winter to spring
    Make something beautiful out of all this suffering

    written by Written by Nicol Sponberg and Mark Heimermann,

     
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