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gotcha, just wanted to be clear saint veneration does go back to the early centuries.
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Father, I ran into these not to long ago and much like baby communion its been an eye opener. I am processing these revelations with fervent prayer.
gotcha, just wanted to be clear saint veneration does go back to the early centuries.
At least he hasn’t asked about Kavorka yet. That takes more explaining....perhaps from Dr. Bison.
At least he hasn’t asked about Kavorka yet. That takes more explaining....perhaps from Dr. Bison.
From sienfield? Or is this something real goibg over my head lol.
Not sure, either... BUT, when those two get together, Seinfeld, is a good guess
yes....kavorka....
Time for a garland of garlic!
Ya gotta love the part where the nun gives a "benediction" in an Orthodox liturgy. No iconostasis, George wearing weird Catholic-style altar boy getup, no icons, no incense. Larry David and Jerry Seinfeld sure were experts in Orthodoxy, weren't they!? LOL
Any heavy hitter books that are recommended?
plus the Latin and the complete lack of chrism...
And George kneeling accepting a chalice!? LOL
George spilling some of it on himself and no one flinching
what do you mean by heavy hitter?
Theological, hermenuetic or dogmatic goodness to chew on.
"The hats....they're very pious!"
you could start with St Ignatius of Antioch
In the Martyrdom of Polycarp it states that after the centurions burnt his body, the faithful "collected up his bones, more precious than jewels and better purified than gold, and put them in an appropriate place where, the Lord willing, we shall celebrate the birthday of his martyrdom each year with joy and rejoicing".Although concerning the saints we concede that, just as, when alive, they pray for the Church universal in general, so in heaven they pray for the Church in general, albeit no testimony concerning the praying of the dead is extant in the Scriptures, except the dream taken from the Second Book of Maccabees"
Theres much more to be said but the bottom line is, though those who have entered rest in the faith do pray for the church, there is no scripture to back up the veneration or prayer to the saints. It also states earlier that the church fathers did not practice or teach this until much later which proves it was heterodox entering the church.
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