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Looking for a Christian Viewpoint on Tress, Cars, Humans, Oh My!

Discussion in 'United States Regional Forum' started by Note, Apr 30, 2018.

  1. Note

    Note Borg Drone

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    This is really a quick summary of what is in my brains, but you get the idea.

    Do you think humans are destroying too much land? I moved to where I am now for the trees to get out of city life. Years later, less trees, more mattress stores, apartment complexes, and supermarkets because four within three miles apart is not enough. Traffic is a mess. Way, way too many humans on the road causing congestion and stress. And more drivers are added to the daily mess of John honking the horn, Sue texting and not looking at the road, Bill cutting of Mary, and Jim texting Mary that she was just cut off by Bill. Frigging texting!!!!

    woosa....................

    Are we meant to live paycheck to paycheck, an hour or two total of sitting in traffic wasting gas money and burning fumes? Well, maybe not some of you but I do not get the luxury of relaxing, taking vacations, owning a home. I am trying to find more work because not enough jobs for, oh, so many reasons. But, is this what most of the people are to do? Missing the tress and sitting in traffic? They are killing trees left and right. I have not seen deer in three years because animals are being driven (no pun) away!!!

    Are humans meant not to see the stars at night from their own homes anymore (or for some of us, crowded overpriced yet so tiny caves)?

    Thanks. :scratch::sigh:
     
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  2. HereIStand

    HereIStand Regular Member Supporter

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    Francis Schaeffer's Pollution and the Death of Man is good. I like idea of a scenic tree views and a lack of traffic. There are issues though with remote life in being too far away from hospitals, fire departments, and churches.
     
  3. Southernscotty

    Southernscotty Well-Known Member Angels Team Supporter

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    This is why I am glad that I am in the hills. Although I have been arguing with a squirrel a lot here lately, He thinks he knows it all. SIGH!!!
     
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  4. Note

    Note Borg Drone

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    That I can understand. Small town type stuff. But where I live in NC, I drive by six Mattress Firms a day. There are two Food Lions within a minute's drive from me, along with a Harris Teeter, some health supermarket, and Kroger. All within a minute's range. Pass that drive, you get more. Where there were trees, there are car dealerships and more apartment complexes that are going for 1000+ for a one bedroom. I miss the local ice cream and burger places, but they have been driven away by franchises.

    Is this how humans are doomed to enjoy a life of nature, peace and quiet, to drones delivering pizzas?

    I am just really, really sadden and I can not move again as I am not rich, nor able to find a place before the construction diggers come eventually.

    Alex: See, even the star is out tonight.
    Marty: Helicopter.
     
  5. Note

    Note Borg Drone

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    Nice you get to enjoy....

    Squirrel!!!!!

    Nice you get to enjoy that life. When I first moved to NC, I was hoping to find a place by a pond or a lake, just I saw in the books. I came from MA, and ME and NH too $$$$$ back then. Then with money issues and job loses, stuck seeing a dumpster in my window of an overpriced complex I am virtually stuck in. Just not....

    Squirrel!!!!!
     
  6. thecolorsblend

    thecolorsblend If God is your Father, who is your Mother? Supporter

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    In a certain sense, there's really no argument against the idea that capitalism is incompatible with ecology.
     
  7. grasping the after wind

    grasping the after wind That's grasping after the wind

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    AI do not think that humans are meant or not meant to do anything in particular when it comes to how they live their individual lives. If I find that I disagree with the way other people live their lives, I think I ought to keep that opinion to myself and instead use persuasive argument in favor of my preferences rather than denigrating theirs. The trick is to convince them that living in the manner I prefer them to live is in their best interest and the interest of the rest of us as well. If they decide not to be convinced, I do not advocate using coercive force to make them conform to my way of thinking.
     
  8. Note

    Note Borg Drone

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    Grasp, does that mean people are allowed to tear down the trees for more of this stuff, so that the rest of us have to stop enjoying God's natural world? I miss the stars at night, but am stuck here, for life (and that is for a long, long time). What about the animals? I see none of these expensive condos helping the animals (or the homeless people). Why do they have to sell off land to make a profit where once you can enjoy driving for an hour seeing trees, and now all of the sudden, in the middle of nowhere, trees are gone for a restaurant? What, there are not enough around the crowded areas, they have to add more where people once enjoyed nature driving?

    My fear, my own children will never enjoy stars under their own home, and this planet will become another Coruscant.
     
  9. grasping the after wind

    grasping the after wind That's grasping after the wind

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    What it means is that we need to use reason and logic to convince not use force to make others submit. Although people ought to be allowed to do whatever they please with their own property they should be good stewards of that propeety and take the best care of it possible, what they are not allowed to do is anything at all with the property of others. At least that is the Biblical POV from what I can tell.
     
  10. Note

    Note Borg Drone

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    Well, entities like me are being forced not to enjoy God's quiet, natural life because I am not rich to have my own island... which will probably have cruise ships constancy going by and hearing "We Are Family" at 2a.
    Less trees, more car dealerships. This is what I see and I feel forced and stuck to live like this.
    :help:
    I keep praying for growth to stop and people to just stop and even tear down all this crap and put the trees back. Bring back nature and the animals.
    So, I am wrong in this? Am I just not accepting this is what is meant to be?
     
  11. Percivale

    Percivale Sam Supporter

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    Anyone who can should get rid of their car and drive a bike or golf cart, if enough people did that it would make a big difference. Also a tax on development of forest or farm land would help.
     
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