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I am a Pentecostal and am a member of the Church of God. So, I believe in being filled with the Holy Ghost and that the initial evidence of the baptism of the Holy Spirit is speaking in tongues. Being filled with the Holy Spirit is something I believe we all need. I mean Jesus operated with the power of the Holy Spirit and if He needed it, then how much more do you and I need it in this day and in this age. Not to mention the incredible things we can do when we are filled with the Holy Spirit. Just look at the lame beggar in Acts 3, when he was healed and filled with the Holy Spirit, he began "walking, leaping and praising God". That's pretty cool. I mean I don't even know how you do that, much like a skip I imagine (sorry, I try to be funny sometimes). Pretty darn cool if you couldn't do it before.

With this being said, I have not been baptized with the Holy Spirit. Being filled with the Holy Spirit is something I am hungry for. I long to have that "power" that you receive when the Holy Spirit comes on you (Acts 1:8). I've been eagerly seeking to be baptized with the Holy Spirit for a while now and I guess that is where my question stems from. Why is it that some people receive the baptism of the Holy Ghost the first time they ask for it, and others (like myself) are seeking for weeks, months or even years? The Holy Spirit is promised to us in John 14, right? Do you think God would ever temporarily withhold the Holy Spirit from someone for any reason, such as if He thought that person wasn't ready for it yet?

This is something I have been struggling with. As aforementioned, I desperately want to be filled with the Holy Spirit, and I know the Spirit is a gift and promise for everyone. I've been seeking it for so long that I'm almost to a point where I just don't expect it anymore. Like, I expect God to fill other people with the Holt Ghost but when I see that happening, it's almost to where I automatically assume, "Oh, God is doing amazing things in that person's life, but it won't happen to me." I used to come before God with an expectant heart believing "Wow, this may be the day that I'm filled with the Holy Spirit!" but I have been asking, seeking, and knocking for so long, but it has not been given to me, I have not found it, and the door hasn't been opened for me.

I'm just at a point where I don't understand, and the confusion is leading to doubt. If you could provide some insight on this topic, then I would be greatly appreciative.

Blessings,
Calla
 

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I am a Pentecostal and am a member of the Church of God. So, I believe in being filled with the Holy Ghost and that the initial evidence of the baptism of the Holy Spirit is speaking in tongues. Being filled with the Holy Spirit is something I believe we all need. I mean Jesus operated with the power of the Holy Spirit and if He needed it, then how much more do you and I need it in this day and in this age. Not to mention the incredible things we can do when we are filled with the Holy Spirit. Just look at the lame beggar in Acts 3, when he was healed and filled with the Holy Spirit, he began "walking, leaping and praising God". That's pretty cool. I mean I don't even know how you do that, much like a skip I imagine (sorry, I try to be funny sometimes). Pretty darn cool if you couldn't do it before.

With this being said, I have not been baptized with the Holy Spirit. Being filled with the Holy Spirit is something I am hungry for. I long to have that "power" that you receive when the Holy Spirit comes on you (Acts 1:8). I've been eagerly seeking to be baptized with the Holy Spirit for a while now and I guess that is where my question stems from. Why is it that some people receive the baptism of the Holy Ghost the first time they ask for it, and others (like myself) are seeking for weeks, months or even years? The Holy Spirit is promised to us in John 14, right? Do you think God would ever temporarily withhold the Holy Spirit from someone for any reason, such as if He thought that person wasn't ready for it yet?

This is something I have been struggling with. As aforementioned, I desperately want to be filled with the Holy Spirit, and I know the Spirit is a gift and promise for everyone. I've been seeking it for so long that I'm almost to a point where I just don't expect it anymore. Like, I expect God to fill other people with the Holt Ghost but when I see that happening, it's almost to where I automatically assume, "Oh, God is doing amazing things in that person's life, but it won't happen to me." I used to come before God with an expectant heart believing "Wow, this may be the day that I'm filled with the Holy Spirit!" but I have been asking, seeking, and knocking for so long, but it has not been given to me, I have not found it, and the door hasn't been opened for me.

I'm just at a point where I don't understand, and the confusion is leading to doubt. If you could provide some insight on this topic, then I would be greatly appreciative.

Blessings,
Calla
The Holy Spirit is in you the day you believed on the Lord, Calla. If you were baptized in the Name of the Father, Son and the Holy Spirit, then you're already full of the Spirit. The manifestation of the Holy Spirit will happen according to God's will. Yes, speaking in tongues is indicative of the Holy Spirit in you. But, don't ignore the fruit of the Spirit and other spiritual gifts. God bless :).
 
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I am a Pentecostal and am a member of the Church of God. So, I believe in being filled with the Holy Ghost and that the initial evidence of the baptism of the Holy Spirit is speaking in tongues. Being filled with the Holy Spirit is something I believe we all need. I mean Jesus operated with the power of the Holy Spirit and if He needed it, then how much more do you and I need it in this day and in this age. Not to mention the incredible things we can do when we are filled with the Holy Spirit. Just look at the lame beggar in Acts 3, when he was healed and filled with the Holy Spirit, he began "walking, leaping and praising God". That's pretty cool. I mean I don't even know how you do that, much like a skip I imagine (sorry, I try to be funny sometimes). Pretty darn cool if you couldn't do it before.

With this being said, I have not been baptized with the Holy Spirit. Being filled with the Holy Spirit is something I am hungry for. I long to have that "power" that you receive when the Holy Spirit comes on you (Acts 1:8). I've been eagerly seeking to be baptized with the Holy Spirit for a while now and I guess that is where my question stems from. Why is it that some people receive the baptism of the Holy Ghost the first time they ask for it, and others (like myself) are seeking for weeks, months or even years? The Holy Spirit is promised to us in John 14, right? Do you think God would ever temporarily withhold the Holy Spirit from someone for any reason, such as if He thought that person wasn't ready for it yet?

This is something I have been struggling with. As aforementioned, I desperately want to be filled with the Holy Spirit, and I know the Spirit is a gift and promise for everyone. I've been seeking it for so long that I'm almost to a point where I just don't expect it anymore. Like, I expect God to fill other people with the Holt Ghost but when I see that happening, it's almost to where I automatically assume, "Oh, God is doing amazing things in that person's life, but it won't happen to me." I used to come before God with an expectant heart believing "Wow, this may be the day that I'm filled with the Holy Spirit!" but I have been asking, seeking, and knocking for so long, but it has not been given to me, I have not found it, and the door hasn't been opened for me.

I'm just at a point where I don't understand, and the confusion is leading to doubt. If you could provide some insight on this topic, then I would be greatly appreciative.

Blessings,
Calla


Hi Calla
I am not clever, not gifted, just ordinary. All i know is humble prayer to God the Father, Lord Jesus Christ and Holy Spirit is what sustains me every day. Simple clear prayer about all your worries and stresses and praise and thanks for everything starting from your every breath.

Three years ago suddenly the Holy Spirit visited me. Incredible overwhelming love and reassurance. Just for a few minutes. That one and only time hsppened suddenly. I had only prayed simply. It was the situation in my life that was extraordinary. I had found out a short time before that my husband was dying of throat cancer, weeks left. In my pain and turmoil i prayed. That was when HE decided to visit. At the exact moment of agony i needed Him. After that i have always had all the peace and strength i need. Through anything life can throw at me.

My big point is this. The Holy Spirit cannot be summoned. He chooses when. So pray and relax. He is around us always but a special visitation is not for us to decide. That's why i dislike churches and tv programmes where everyone makes a circus of it! You know what i mean. God decides what and when to do tjings. Our part is to pray as we best can.
 
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I am a Pentecostal and am a member of the Church of God. So, I believe in being filled with the Holy Ghost and that the initial evidence of the baptism of the Holy Spirit is speaking in tongues. Being filled with the Holy Spirit is something I believe we all need. I mean Jesus operated with the power of the Holy Spirit and if He needed it, then how much more do you and I need it in this day and in this age. Not to mention the incredible things we can do when we are filled with the Holy Spirit. Just look at the lame beggar in Acts 3, when he was healed and filled with the Holy Spirit, he began "walking, leaping and praising God". That's pretty cool. I mean I don't even know how you do that, much like a skip I imagine (sorry, I try to be funny sometimes). Pretty darn cool if you couldn't do it before.

With this being said, I have not been baptized with the Holy Spirit. Being filled with the Holy Spirit is something I am hungry for. I long to have that "power" that you receive when the Holy Spirit comes on you (Acts 1:8). I've been eagerly seeking to be baptized with the Holy Spirit for a while now and I guess that is where my question stems from. Why is it that some people receive the baptism of the Holy Ghost the first time they ask for it, and others (like myself) are seeking for weeks, months or even years? The Holy Spirit is promised to us in John 14, right? Do you think God would ever temporarily withhold the Holy Spirit from someone for any reason, such as if He thought that person wasn't ready for it yet?

This is something I have been struggling with. As aforementioned, I desperately want to be filled with the Holy Spirit, and I know the Spirit is a gift and promise for everyone. I've been seeking it for so long that I'm almost to a point where I just don't expect it anymore. Like, I expect God to fill other people with the Holt Ghost but when I see that happening, it's almost to where I automatically assume, "Oh, God is doing amazing things in that person's life, but it won't happen to me." I used to come before God with an expectant heart believing "Wow, this may be the day that I'm filled with the Holy Spirit!" but I have been asking, seeking, and knocking for so long, but it has not been given to me, I have not found it, and the door hasn't been opened for me.

I'm just at a point where I don't understand, and the confusion is leading to doubt. If you could provide some insight on this topic, then I would be greatly appreciative.

Blessings,
Calla
Hi Calla. Welcome to the Pentecostal Forum. So good to meet you here and so glad that you are seeking the baptism in the Holy Spirit. It is essential for our witness and service that we are filled with the Holy Spirit. When we receive Christ as our Saviour and LORD it is an operation of the Holy Spirit. We are saved by the grace of God,through faith in Christ. Christ dwells in our heart,by His Spirit. So the Holy Spirit is resident in us. We are 'baptised in the Holy Spirit' when we experience the fullness of the Holy Spirit at a personal level. It is an overflow of the Holy Spirit and endues us with power for witness and service. 'Ask and you will receive'. Believe the promise (Acts 1:8) Receive the promise (Acts 2:2-4) As you approach God with a heart of worship and speak His praise you will speak in tongues as inspired by the Holy Spirit and receive power that will help you grow spiritually and in your service for Christ.
 
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I am a Pentecostal and am a member of the Church of God. So, I believe in being filled with the Holy Ghost and that the initial evidence of the baptism of the Holy Spirit is speaking in tongues. Being filled with the Holy Spirit is something I believe we all need. I mean Jesus operated with the power of the Holy Spirit and if He needed it, then how much more do you and I need it in this day and in this age. Not to mention the incredible things we can do when we are filled with the Holy Spirit. Just look at the lame beggar in Acts 3, when he was healed and filled with the Holy Spirit, he began "walking, leaping and praising God". That's pretty cool. I mean I don't even know how you do that, much like a skip I imagine (sorry, I try to be funny sometimes). Pretty darn cool if you couldn't do it before.

With this being said, I have not been baptized with the Holy Spirit. Being filled with the Holy Spirit is something I am hungry for. I long to have that "power" that you receive when the Holy Spirit comes on you (Acts 1:8). I've been eagerly seeking to be baptized with the Holy Spirit for a while now and I guess that is where my question stems from. Why is it that some people receive the baptism of the Holy Ghost the first time they ask for it, and others (like myself) are seeking for weeks, months or even years? The Holy Spirit is promised to us in John 14, right? Do you think God would ever temporarily withhold the Holy Spirit from someone for any reason, such as if He thought that person wasn't ready for it yet?

This is something I have been struggling with. As aforementioned, I desperately want to be filled with the Holy Spirit, and I know the Spirit is a gift and promise for everyone. I've been seeking it for so long that I'm almost to a point where I just don't expect it anymore. Like, I expect God to fill other people with the Holt Ghost but when I see that happening, it's almost to where I automatically assume, "Oh, God is doing amazing things in that person's life, but it won't happen to me." I used to come before God with an expectant heart believing "Wow, this may be the day that I'm filled with the Holy Spirit!" but I have been asking, seeking, and knocking for so long, but it has not been given to me, I have not found it, and the door hasn't been opened for me.

I'm just at a point where I don't understand, and the confusion is leading to doubt. If you could provide some insight on this topic, then I would be greatly appreciative.

Blessings,
Calla

I was older than you when I first realized that speaking in tongues was NOT of the devil. I left those churches that thought so, and started seeking. I was prayed for and had hands laid on me many times over the next 6 years and nothing ever happened. There IS a prerequisite. And that prerequisite is why John the Baptist came first to pave the way for the Savior. John preached one message - repentance.

There are all sorts of reasons people want to accept Christ. They don't want to go to hell, so accept Jesus as their free ticket to heaven. But they think they can go on living their life as always now that they have their ticket safely tucked away until they need to present it to God. Others want blessings. They search the scriptures and tell God to perform these blessings for them promised in His Word. But neither of these have made Christ their Lord. They've never humbled themselves with the fear of the Lord.

I would like to tell you about HOW I finally received the Holy Spirit. But it is long, and I was afraid to make this response so long you wouldn't read the first paragraph! LOL So just ask and I'll post it.
 
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I was older than you when I first realized that speaking in tongues was NOT of the devil. I left those churches that thought so, and started seeking. I was prayed for and had hands laid on me many times over the next 6 years and nothing ever happened. There IS a prerequisite. And that prerequisite is why John the Baptist came first to pave the way for the Savior. John preached one message - repentance.

There are all sorts of reasons people want to accept Christ. They don't want to go to hell, so accept Jesus as their free ticket to heaven. But they think they can go on living their life as always now that they have their ticket safely tucked away until they need to present it to God. Others want blessings. They search the scriptures and tell God to perform these blessings for them promised in His Word. But neither of these have made Christ their Lord. They've never humbled themselves with the fear of the Lord.

I would like to tell you about HOW I finally received the Holy Spirit. But it is long, and I was afraid to make this response so long you wouldn't read the first paragraph! LOL So just ask and I'll post it.
Thankyou,'Istcenturylady'. I would like to hear more
 
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Thankyou,'Istcenturylady'. I would like to hear more

Quietbloke, this is from a chapter in a book I am writing on grace.


I received God's grace at the weakest point in my life, when sin was so enticing it had a stranglehold on me. I would like to share with you my own testimony of the night I was saved, and my experience of receiving the "power" of grace.

Actually, I can relate to Saul's experience of being brought to Christ through seeing a manifestation of Jesus, because moments before I actually repented and experienced the saving power of God, He sovereignly let me see a vision. It was of my sin.

Here I was 29 years old, had gone to church all my life, though I wasn't presently, and I was having an affair with a married man! He was a rather powerful Jewish entertainment business man in Beverly Hills, and I became totally obsessed with him, as well as dependent upon him. He became my love, and my security. In fact, he was the love of my life. No one had done as much for me as he had.

After many months, I finally realized this affair was ruining my hope of a future, of a home and family. He wasn't going to leave his wife, nor did I want him to. But knowing all this didn't give me the strength to break off the affair. So, I did what you do in Beverly Hills, I went to a therapist.

After telling the therapist all about my relationship with my lover, he said these words, "Well, if it feels good, do it." I immediately felt a chill. It was like encountering Satan himself. I couldn't wait to leave, and I never went back. But the thought of Satan made me realize my only hope for finding strength was in God. So I went searching for a church.

I did quite a bit of church hopping, then I remembered years ago before moving to California from Tennessee, Pat Boone's mom and dad suggested I visit Pastor Jack Hayford's church, The Church On The Way, a Foursquare church in the San Fernando Valley outside Los Angeles. I made up my mind that instead of hopping to the next church on my list, I would attend every service this church held for two months to give it a chance before deciding if I needed to search elsewhere. But, from the first sermon I knew I would stay. Through the Holy Spirit, Jack seemed to be preaching just to me. That didn’t just happen on that first visit, but every service thereafter. I was home.

After a month of attending every service, I decided I was strong enough to break off the affair. So I did, but became so devastated, after three days I begged him to come back. Of course, he did. He loved me too.

After another month, I tried again. But within three days we were back together again.

Month after month I tried. But we always went back together within a couple days.

Then one Sunday, Pastor Jack gave a sermon on "integrity of heart." That was the turning point - humility. I learned to be very truthful with God. So I prayed, "Lord, I have tried to break off this affair, but I am weak (having done so in only my own strength). You are strong, so You do it. Make him break it off with me, and then give him the strength to stay away from me when I try to get him back - because You know I will." From that point on I just relaxed and didn’t ‘try’ to be good any longer. I recognized myself for what I was – a sinner who could do nothing in my own strength, especially when I was crazy in love and my flesh wanted what it wanted. But, the honest prayer was enough to make God start working.

One week later my lover came over and told me he finally realized that he couldn't be there when I needed him; that he needed to get out of my life. He broke up with me. I was overwhelmed with sorrow, but at the same time, in awe that possibly there really was a God. You see, it was the first prayer in my entire life that really seemed to have been answered!

After two weeks, I thought I better see if I could find another man to fill the tremendous void in my broken heart, but this time a Christian man. I knew a couple at church who were elders and asked them if they were friends with any single men they could set me up with.

They said, "Yes, we are good friends with Bill B., a movie producer, single and about 36. They knew I was already in the entertainment industry. He comes here every Wednesday night, and we always go out for coffee later. Why don't you come with us after church this Wednesday night?”

I couldn't wait for Wednesday night service. In fact, I was 45 minutes early. Finally, church began, and as was our custom at the beginning of the service, we turned to greet those around us. Someone tapped me on the shoulder from behind, and I turned to see a girl I had met at a girlfriend's house about six months before. She had come over from across the room to greet me. That in itself was extraordinary, as Jack Hayford wanted us to remain by our seats with no roaming around. “Everything must be done decently and in order.”

"Hi," I said, "what brings you here tonight"?

"Well, I haven't had a date in a year, and this guy came into my office today, we found out we were both Christians and he brought me to his church tonight."

"Oh, really? Who did you come with"? I asked.

"Bill B."

I was bewildered. I had really thought this was the answer to my intense pain. Was God behind the scenes orchestrating everything around me? Then what in the world did He think He was doing!

Wednesday evening service was our time to pray for the nation. Around 8:00 pm, we all knelt to pray and were to partner with whomever was sitting next to us. I excused myself, and told them I needed to pray by myself tonight. I thought to myself, I can't pray for the nation, I can't even get a date out of God, how can I expect my prayer to produce anything good to happen for the nation!

So I knelt at my chair and thought about why God would thwart my going out with Bill B. I was beginning to feel really punished. It was then with my eyes closed, I saw a wide field with a huge round vertical glass pipe or silo about 50 feet across erected from the field up into the clouds above. About 300 feet up the clear pipe, I could see what looked like an enormous hairball. As I focused on it, I saw that the hair was moving. It was a gigantic nest of snakes!

All at once I "knew" the meaning of the vision I was seeing. The nest of snakes was my sin which was preventing all God's blessings from reaching me.

Oh, I had never asked for forgiveness for the adultery, I thought to myself. I’ll ask for forgiveness, and then, maybe He’ll bring me a man.

I started to pray for God to forgive me for the adultery, and to cleanse me of all my sins. I prayed the same prayer as King David did after he had sinned with Bathsheba, a verse I had memorized as a child. "Create in me a clean heart, Oh Lord, and renew a right spirit within me. Cast me not away from your presence, and take not thy Holy Spirit from me."

You would think I was now happy, but I wasn't. I was still very sad and lonely. I began to think about my old relationship, and how meeting someone new would have been so great. And on top of that, Bill B. was a Christian! I knew it must have been God that prevented me from meeting him... Thick-headed as I was, I prayed, "Don't you want me to date a Christian?"

The response was like thunder! "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!"

Boy that shut me up! I had never heard God's voice before. And even though it wasn't an audible voice, I heard it loud and clear.

And He said, No????? I suddenly felt He was going to say more, so I stilled myself and started listening expectantly... He continued,

"YOU LOOK TO MAN FOR YOUR LOVE. I WANT TO BE YOUR LOVE.

YOU LOOK TO MAN FOR YOUR SECURITY. I WANT TO BE YOUR SECURITY.

YOU WILL NOT DATE FOR A SEASON. YOU WILL BE IN DROUGHT. AND WHEN YOUR HEART MELTS, I WILL SEND THE RAIN."

Suddenly, I knew that I knew that I knew God existed! I don't think in all my life I ever knew for sure until that moment. And what's more, He was speaking to me!

I was in such awe I repented again whole-heartedly this time and was saved, and filled with unshakable faith. This was immediately followed by His awesome outpouring of His Spirit and with power. I felt it physically. It felt like being drenched with a vessel of warm oil pouring over the top of my head and quickly engulfing me. My prior grief I had been burdened with for months while I was entrenched in the destructive sin suddenly disappeared and was replaced with extreme joy that caused my cheeks to hurt from smiling. The sudden departure of that burden made me feel buoyed up by love, and light as a feather. Isaiah 61:3 describes it best. "The oil of joy for mourning." It's literal! I even looked at my feet to see if they were still on the floor!

That night I saw the heart of Jesus for the first time, how crushed He was by my sin. It broke my heart, and I truly repented for the first time in my life. That repentance was real. It wasn't the usual apathetic, or even formal, just mouthing the words, "oh, yes, and forgive me of my sins." Nor, was it even what I had prayed just moments before after seeing the vision of the clog of snakes preventing God from bringing the blessing of another man into my life! It was saving repentance. I wanted to turn away from, and to be cleansed of every sin I could think of, and those I couldn't. I wanted to be scrubbed clean and never get dirty ever again! Not because I was afraid of hell or wanted blessings, but because when I finally knew He existed, loved me and wanted my love, I fell madly in love with him! He then filled me with His Holy Spirit to overflowing. He not only had a clean vessel to enter, He had my whole heart and soul.

I was now saved! Oh, what a sobering thought! You see, I had grown up in church, and attended as an adult for most my life for nearly 30 years, always feeling the call on my life, but "many are called, few are chosen." I loved the Lord, or maybe the idea of the Lord, but I didn't respect or "fear" Him enough to not willfully sin. My sensual desires always came first.

And now, every week after that, the gifts of the Holy Spirit were ever present in my life, which up until then I had never known, and I was drawn closer and closer to God. All I wanted to do was study God's Word, listen to teaching tapes and Christian music, and listen for His voice. But, the true confirmation and evidence that I was now saved and filled with His Holy Spirit was I could now see sin as He did. I no longer wanted to sin. It didn't "call" to me. My desires had taken a 180 degree about face immediately, though I still loved my lover and would respect him for the rest of my life, and even though it wasn’t long before he wanted me back, I knew if I wanted God, I had to give up everything for Him, no matter how painful. But God’s grace was sufficient. It gave me power over my flesh I had never known before, no matter the cost. I was truly a new creation. It wasn't merely a scripture to quote, but a reality. I had a new mind, an obedient heart and a sensitive spirit for God to nurture and sustain.
 
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Quietbloke, this is from a chapter in a book I am writing on grace.

I received God's grace at the weakest point in my life, when sin was so enticing it had a stranglehold on me. I would like to share with you my own testimony of the night I was saved, and my experience of receiving the "power" of grace.

Actually, I can relate to Saul's experience of being brought to Christ through seeing a manifestation of Jesus, because moments before I actually repented and experienced the saving power of God, He sovereignly let me see a vision. It was of my sin.

Here I was 29 years old, had gone to church all my life, though I wasn't presently, and I was having an affair with a married man! He was a rather powerful Jewish entertainment business man in Beverly Hills, and I became totally obsessed with him, as well as dependent upon him. He became my love, and my security. In fact, he was the love of my life. No one had done as much for me as he had.

After many months, I finally realized this affair was ruining my hope of a future, of a home and family. He wasn't going to leave his wife, nor did I want him to. But knowing all this didn't give me the strength to break off the affair. So, I did what you do in Beverly Hills, I went to a therapist.

After telling the therapist all about my relationship with my lover, he said these words, "Well, if it feels good, do it." I immediately felt a chill. It was like encountering Satan himself. I couldn't wait to leave, and I never went back. But the thought of Satan made me realize my only hope for finding strength was in God. So I went searching for a church.

I did quite a bit of church hopping, then I remembered years ago before moving to California from Tennessee, Pat Boone's mom and dad suggested I visit Pastor Jack Hayford's church, The Church On The Way, a Foursquare church in the San Fernando Valley outside Los Angeles. I made up my mind that instead of hopping to the next church on my list, I would attend every service this church held for two months to give it a chance before deciding if I needed to search elsewhere. But, from the first sermon I knew I would stay. Through the Holy Spirit, Jack seemed to be preaching just to me. That didn’t just happen on that first visit, but every service thereafter. I was home.

After a month of attending every service, I decided I was strong enough to break off the affair. So I did, but became so devastated, after three days I begged him to come back. Of course, he did. He loved me too.

After another month, I tried again. But within three days we were back together again.

Month after month I tried. But we always went back together within a couple days.

Then one Sunday, Pastor Jack gave a sermon on "integrity of heart." That was the turning point - humility. I learned to be very truthful with God. So I prayed, "Lord, I have tried to break off this affair, but I am weak (having done so in only my own strength). You are strong, so You do it. Make him break it off with me, and then give him the strength to stay away from me when I try to get him back - because You know I will." From that point on I just relaxed and didn’t ‘try’ to be good any longer. I recognized myself for what I was – a sinner who could do nothing in my own strength, especially when I was crazy in love and my flesh wanted what it wanted. But, the honest prayer was enough to make God start working.

One week later my lover came over and told me he finally realized that he couldn't be there when I needed him; that he needed to get out of my life. He broke up with me. I was overwhelmed with sorrow, but at the same time, in awe that possibly there really was a God. You see, it was the first prayer in my entire life that really seemed to have been answered!

After two weeks, I thought I better see if I could find another man to fill the tremendous void in my broken heart, but this time a Christian man. I knew a couple at church who were elders and asked them if they were friends with any single men they could set me up with.

They said, "Yes, we are good friends with Bill B., a movie producer, single and about 36. They knew I was already in the entertainment industry. He comes here every Wednesday night, and we always go out for coffee later. Why don't you come with us after church this Wednesday night?”

I couldn't wait for Wednesday night service. In fact, I was 45 minutes early. Finally, church began, and as was our custom at the beginning of the service, we turned to greet those around us. Someone tapped me on the shoulder from behind, and I turned to see a girl I had met at a girlfriend's house about six months before. She had come over from across the room to greet me. That in itself was extraordinary, as Jack Hayford wanted us to remain by our seats with no roaming around. “Everything must be done decently and in order.”

"Hi," I said, "what brings you here tonight"?

"Well, I haven't had a date in a year, and this guy came into my office today, we found out we were both Christians and he brought me to his church tonight."

"Oh, really? Who did you come with"? I asked.

"Bill B."

I was bewildered. I had really thought this was the answer to my intense pain. Was God behind the scenes orchestrating everything around me? Then what in the world did He think He was doing!

Wednesday evening service was our time to pray for the nation. Around 8:00 pm, we all knelt to pray and were to partner with whomever was sitting next to us. I excused myself, and told them I needed to pray by myself tonight. I thought to myself, I can't pray for the nation, I can't even get a date out of God, how can I expect my prayer to produce anything good to happen for the nation!

So I knelt at my chair and thought about why God would thwart my going out with Bill B. I was beginning to feel really punished. It was then with my eyes closed, I saw a wide field with a huge round vertical glass pipe or silo about 50 feet across erected from the field up into the clouds above. About 300 feet up the clear pipe, I could see what looked like an enormous hairball. As I focused on it, I saw that the hair was moving. It was a gigantic nest of snakes!

All at once I "knew" the meaning of the vision I was seeing. The nest of snakes was my sin which was preventing all God's blessings from reaching me.

Oh, I had never asked for forgiveness for the adultery, I thought to myself. I’ll ask for forgiveness, and then, maybe He’ll bring me a man.

I started to pray for God to forgive me for the adultery, and to cleanse me of all my sins. I prayed the same prayer as King David did after he had sinned with Bathsheba, a verse I had memorized as a child. "Create in me a clean heart, Oh Lord, and renew a right spirit within me. Cast me not away from your presence, and take not thy Holy Spirit from me."

You would think I was now happy, but I wasn't. I was still very sad and lonely. I began to think about my old relationship, and how meeting someone new would have been so great. And on top of that, Bill B. was a Christian! I knew it must have been God that prevented me from meeting him... Thick-headed as I was, I prayed, "Don't you want me to date a Christian?"

The response was like thunder! "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!"

Boy that shut me up! I had never heard God's voice before. And even though it wasn't an audible voice, I heard it loud and clear.

And He said, No????? I suddenly felt He was going to say more, so I stilled myself and started listening expectantly... He continued,

"YOU LOOK TO MAN FOR YOUR LOVE. I WANT TO BE YOUR LOVE.

YOU LOOK TO MAN FOR YOUR SECURITY. I WANT TO BE YOUR SECURITY.

YOU WILL NOT DATE FOR A SEASON. YOU WILL BE IN DROUGHT. AND WHEN YOUR HEART MELTS, I WILL SEND THE RAIN."

Suddenly, I knew that I knew that I knew God existed! I don't think in all my life I ever knew for sure until that moment. And what's more, He was speaking to me!

I was in such awe I repented again whole-heartedly this time and was saved, and filled with unshakable faith. This was immediately followed by His awesome outpouring of His Spirit and with power. I felt it physically. It felt like being drenched with a vessel of warm oil pouring over the top of my head and quickly engulfing me. My prior grief I had been burdened with for months while I was entrenched in the destructive sin suddenly disappeared and was replaced with extreme joy that caused my cheeks to hurt from smiling. The sudden departure of that burden made me feel buoyed up by love, and light as a feather. Isaiah 61:3 describes it best. "The oil of joy for mourning." It's literal! I even looked at my feet to see if they were still on the floor!

That night I saw the heart of Jesus for the first time, how crushed He was by my sin. It broke my heart, and I truly repented for the first time in my life. That repentance was real. It wasn't the usual apathetic, or even formal, just mouthing the words, "oh, yes, and forgive me of my sins." Nor, was it even what I had prayed just moments before after seeing the vision of the clog of snakes preventing God from bringing the blessing of another man into my life! It was saving repentance. I wanted to turn away from, and to be cleansed of every sin I could think of, and those I couldn't. I wanted to be scrubbed clean and never get dirty ever again! Not because I was afraid of hell or wanted blessings, but because when I finally knew He existed, loved me and wanted my love, I fell madly in love with him! He then filled me with His Holy Spirit to overflowing. He not only had a clean vessel to enter, He had my whole heart and soul.

I was now saved! Oh, what a sobering thought! You see, I had grown up in church, and attended as an adult for most my life for nearly 30 years, always feeling the call on my life, but "many are called, few are chosen." I loved the Lord, or maybe the idea of the Lord, but I didn't respect or "fear" Him enough to not willfully sin. My sensual desires always came first.

And now, every week after that, the gifts of the Holy Spirit were ever present in my life, which up until then I had never known, and I was drawn closer and closer to God. All I wanted to do was study God's Word, listen to teaching tapes and Christian music, and listen for His voice. But, the true confirmation and evidence that I was now saved and filled with His Holy Spirit was I could now see sin as He did. I no longer wanted to sin. It didn't "call" to me. My desires had taken a 180 degree about face immediately, though I still loved my lover and would respect him for the rest of my life, and even though it wasn’t long before he wanted me back, I knew if I wanted God, I had to give up everything for Him, no matter how painful. But God’s grace was sufficient. It gave me power over my flesh I had never known before, no matter the cost. I was truly a new creation. It wasn't merely a scripture to quote, but a reality. I had a new mind, an obedient heart and a sensitive spirit for God to nurture and sustain.
Did any reading see Jesus before leaving the focus on "man"? Since I wept-along, I failed to.
 
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Hi Calla! Thank you for being so very open about this, an exceptional gesture. Quietbloke’s recommended points are true, and I wouldn’t be surprised if you didn’t know some or all of them.

Well, one things stands true, many sit in this place and we often don’t think the Lord is aware of our predicaments. But He is. But our patience is being tried, isn’t it? Well, are you comfortable enough to go further? Could you pin a timeframe on the Master ? Woe, what am I asking? Well, if we are in a stall and pressure to move on is before us, the tipping-point finally happens when we allow ourselves to admit too much time has passed and God isn’t interested. All expectation has then been shown the door as so many before you have chosen to do.

Cast not away therefore your confidence, which has great recompense of reward.

Hebrews 10:35​
 
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I was born in London and lived with my parents and older brother in a flat over a shop. It was obviously overcrowded and when I was just two and a half years old,we moved to council housing in the new town of Hemel Hempstead. Although my parents did not attend church they sent me to Sunday School and I,later joined the cubs,scouts,senior scouts. When I was 14 years old I was invited to a youth event at the AOG Pentecostal Church. There I 'received the LORD Jesus Christ as my own personal Saviour' and was soon 'baptised in water'. I also heard about the 'baptism in the Holy Spirit',an experience subsequent to conversion. The church sometimes had 'waiting meetings' and I sought after being 'filled with the Holy Spirit'. I was very shy and did not realise that we receive the Holy Spirit by faith. Instead of opening my mouth and praising God,I sat there waiting for something to happen. When it did'nt I was disappointed. The Church used to go to a conference once a year and again I went to the 'waiting meetings' there. I dressed up in my best suit and listened to the preacher reminding us of the 'promise of the Father'. (Acts 1:8) 'You shall receive power after the Holy Ghost has come upon you and you shall be my witnesses...) Sitting next to me was a young man in swimming shorts (It was in a holiday camp) The preacher came around to each one of us and layed hands on us. When he prayed for the young man in swimming trunks he started praising God and it was'nt long before he was speaking in tongues. When the preacher prayed prayed for me,I was silent and nothing happened! The truth was I was 'too respectable,selfrighteous,not realising that we can't impress God by outward appearance'. He looks at our heart. Later I hitch-hiked with a friend up the motorway to a Revival Centre where a well known preacher was speaking on the 'Baptism in the Holy Spirit'. Again I was prayed for but did not receive. A few months later I started praying with a friend,as well as going to the regular meetings at church. It was while praying with my friend and praising and worshipping God that I received the 'fullness of the Holy Spirit' by faith and found myself speaking in a language I had not learnt. It was by the inspiration of the Holy Spirit and my life and witness was revolutionised! It is an ongoing experience that I still enjoy today!
 
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I was born in London and lived with my parents and older brother in a flat over a shop. It was obviously overcrowded and when I was just two and a half years old,we moved to council housing in the new town of Hemel Hempstead. Although my parents did not attend church they sent me to Sunday School and I,later joined the cubs,scouts,senior scouts. When I was 14 years old I was invited to a youth event at the AOG Pentecostal Church. There I 'received the LORD Jesus Christ as my own personal Saviour' and was soon 'baptised in water'. I also heard about the 'baptism in the Holy Spirit',an experience subsequent to conversion. The church sometimes had 'waiting meetings' and I sought after being 'filled with the Holy Spirit'. I was very shy and did not realise that we receive the Holy Spirit by faith. Instead of opening my mouth and praising God,I sat there waiting for something to happen. When it did'nt I was disappointed. The Church used to go to a conference once a year and again I went to the 'waiting meetings' there. I dressed up in my best suit and listened to the preacher reminding us of the 'promise of the Father'. (Acts 1:8) 'You shall receive power after the Holy Ghost has come upon you and you shall be my witnesses...) Sitting next to me was a young man in swimming shorts (It was in a holiday camp) The preacher came around to each one of us and layed hands on us. When he prayed for the young man in swimming trunks he started praising God and it was'nt long before he was speaking in tongues. When the preacher prayed prayed for me,I was silent and nothing happened! The truth was I was 'too respectable,selfrighteous,not realising that we can't impress God by outward appearance'. He looks at our heart. Later I hitch-hiked with a friend up the motorway to a Revival Centre where a well known preacher was speaking on the 'Baptism in the Holy Spirit'. Again I was prayed for but did not receive. A few months later I started praying with a friend,as well as going to the regular meetings at church. It was while praying with my friend and praising and worshipping God that I received the 'fullness of the Holy Spirit' by faith and found myself speaking in a language I had not learnt. It was by the inspiration of the Holy Spirit and my life and witness was revolutionised! It is an ongoing experience that I still enjoy today!
Excellent! This pulls together for me a possible misconception from my own experience and knowledge for the gift. For I was much like you QB, hesitant and unwilling.

But now with your detailed account of free willed “praising and worshipping God”, I can now remove the notion that the gift is the result of people being coached into receiving the gift, which is what I concluded from many of our prayer-partners that afternoon.

Just like the bible says,

And when they had prayed, , they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak the word of God with boldness.

(Acts 4:31)​
 
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Excellent! This pulls together for me a possible misconception from my own experience and knowledge for the gift. For I was much like you QB, hesitant and unwilling.

But now with your detailed account of free willed “praising and worshipping God”, I can now remove the notion that the gift is the result of people being coached into receiving the gift, which is what I concluded from many of our prayer-partners that afternoon.

Just like the bible says,

And when they had prayed, , they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak the word of God with boldness.

(Acts 4:31)​
Thankyou 'rock'. All of the problems I had with receiving the baptism of the Holy Spirit were down to me,not God. There He was welcoming me and encouraging me to overflow with His Spirit. There was I,silent and unpraising. Not realising that my natural tongue was to do the speaking,praising When I realised this and in faith approached God for the fullness of His Spirit,He filled me with His Spirit and inspired me to praise and pray in a language I had not learnt myself. What was amazing was the release and power this brought to my life and service and witness for Him.
 
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Thankyou 'rock'. All of the problems I had with receiving the baptism of the Holy Spirit were down to me,not God. There He was welcoming me and encouraging me to overflow with His Spirit. There was I,silent and unpraising. Not realising that my natural tongue was to do the speaking,praising When I realised this and in faith approached God for the fullness of His Spirit,He filled me with His Spirit and inspired me to praise and pray in a language I had not learnt myself. What was amazing was the release and power this brought to my life and service and witness for Him.
When the Spirit came, amazing memories, the Lord is so patient...
I am praying to be allowed to return to a Pentecostal Church.
 
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When the Spirit came, amazing memories, the Lord is so patient...
I am praying to be allowed to return to a Pentecostal Church.
I'll keep this in mind Pilgrim! Although I think over the years a bit of the heated-edge has worn off much of the non-Pentecostal church, so has some of our virtuous Pentecostal's, sad to say. But God will always have a people and we look to that day of a massive outpouring of the Holy Ghost upon them all. That also to a degree stems from the non-Pentecostal as well I would not at all be surprised, if only the variable tables could show more constance of unity, we could again resume those ends for that glorious Church without spot or wrinkle. We know, it won't come close for those who belittle an any manner the workings of the blessings of His Spirit. Nor for those who impose towards those whom shall soon follow any marks of high-mindedness in any manner.

Be of the same mind toward one another; do not be haughty in mind, but associate with the lowly. Do not be wise in your own estimation.

(Romans 12:16)​

Now I don't know of any here who are so foolish, but I have run into it face-to-face from the oversight of many. I too pray for the open door, but also careful not to forget to consider that the door we seek might appear fully unbeknownst to our thoughts, elsewhere, anywhere. Bless you for your full interest in the things of the Spirit as well as all those within the forum! :)
 
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Let us rejoice in Christ our Saviour,in whom we can trust and have eternal life. Amen! Let us rejoice in the One who baptises in the Holy Spirit and equips us for life and service. Rejoice! Rejoice! Rejoice!
 
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I was in a place much like you several years ago. I tried to pray for the Baptism of the Holy Spirit, I prayed until I was sweating. For hours.
Then I said, "I've done everything I can. I give up. I just can't do this."
I heard the word "Finally!" in my spirit, and was at that point given this gift. When I quit trying, and basically told God, "You're going to have to do this. I can't." that's when I received.

Yes, you need to keep knocking, keep seeking. But instead of asking over and over, come to Him confident, "Lord, I KNOW You will grant me this gift in your time, because you promised it in Your word." It will come in His time, not yours.

BTW, when I received this gift, I had never heard anyone speak in tongues, or seen it. Kinda freaked me out, but in a good way!!!
 
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I was in a place much like you several years ago. I tried to pray for the Baptism of the Holy Spirit, I prayed until I was sweating. For hours.
Then I said, "I've done everything I can. I give up. I just can't do this."
I heard the word "Finally!" in my spirit, and was at that point given this gift. When I quit trying, and basically told God, "You're going to have to do this. I can't." that's when I received.

Yes, you need to keep knocking, keep seeking. But instead of asking over and over, come to Him confident, "Lord, I KNOW You will grant me this gift in your time, because you promised it in Your word." It will come in His time, not yours.

BTW, when I received this gift, I had never heard anyone speak in tongues, or seen it. Kinda freaked me out, but in a good way!!!
Glad you received His promise!

It rest squarely within my spirit that these are true testimonies of being recipients of His active promise of the Spirit, and I hope Calla feels the same and is encouraged by the wonderful input. If so, the Spirit which Jesus sends is not fond of doubt at all, but does meet all our faults half-way to bless expectancy as He said.
 
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