OK!
I reread all of your poss a couple of times.
The main point of your posts seems to be where you said the following:
I can agree with all that. The ones found in verse 29-30 are the ones he was talking to all along (in vs. 28) and not some other Anti-Christ's or whatever.
That doesn't change what I said about all those who are called being justified.
We are talking in both of those instances (those called and those justified) of the same group to whom Paul is offering assurance of salvation.
I have no problem agreeing with the premise you set forth that it is only those who love God and who are called according to His purposes who are being talked about all through the passage.
How do you get the fact that all those called are not necessarily justified when they are the same people found in vs. 28 ---- namely those who love God and are called according to His purposes?
That makes no sense at all. I simply asked for clarification. Perhaps I have missed your entire point.
You seem to want to refute OSAS and as I said before there are other ways to do that. This one you put forth doesn't make any sense at all.
I wanted to enter into an open debate about what you said. You seem to want to shut it down.
You started it and you can end it - that's only fair.
That's OK with me.
