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Liz Cheney has only herself to blame (Atlantic)

Discussion in 'American Politics' started by NxNW, May 6, 2021.

  1. NxNW

    NxNW Well-Known Member

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    Liz Cheney Has Only Herself to Blame

    Until the insurrection, she was a loyal Trumpist who frequently denounced the Democratic Party. “They’ve become the party of anti-Semitism; they’ve become the party of infanticide; they’ve become the party of socialism,” she said in 2019. Her critics now, such as Scalise and the buffoonish Representative Matt Gaetz, formerly gushed over her ability to bring, as the Times put it in 2019, “an edge to Republican messaging that was lacking.”

    That “edge” was Cheney’s specialty from the moment she emerged as a rising star in the GOP. In 2010, Cheney launched a McCarthyite crusade against seven unnamed attorneys in the Obama-era Justice Department who had previously represented terrorism suspects held in the detention camp at Guantánamo Bay. The Bush administration’s assertions of imperial power in the War on Terror violated the Constitution many times over—the conservative majority on the Supreme Court agreed—and the lawyers who represented detainees were defending the fundamental constitutional right to counsel. They were affirming the integrity of the American legal system; Cheney smeared them as terrorist sympathizers, as The Enemy.

    Being 5% less corrupt than Trump doesn't redeem her.
     
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  2. FreeinChrist

    FreeinChrist CF Advisory team Staff Member Site Advisor Supporter

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    That was a good article.
     
  3. CatsRule2020

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    To reduce 'The Big Lie' to the lowest common denominator, means that those who will hold to it will have to be charged with Domestic Terrorism...in the very near future.

    Otherwise the United States will literally crumble.
     
  4. TLK Valentine

    TLK Valentine You will be who you will be. We are our choices.

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    That's the point:The GOP doesn't want a "United States"; it wants a Caesar.

    And they're ousting anyone who dares to talk sense into them.
     
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  5. Pommer

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    Who better to enforce the Pax Americana?
     
  6. Oneiric1975

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    They wanted a Caesar but they wound up with
    [​IMG]
     
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    I respect the lady for her courage and fortitude to stand up for American democracy. It's a shame republicans treat her so viciously for it though. They are merely procrastinating on turning trump loose for financial and political gain...for themselves! Sooner or later their voters will have no choice but admit the fact they've been manipulated and exploited. Sorry Liz, your party is weak and will cast you aside. It does seem rather counterintuitive to lie to your voters and undermine confidence in elections. Especially since winning elections seems to be republicans' only priority. Not much motivation to vote if you have been convinced there's so much fraud.
     
  9. NxNW

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    National Review had an entertaining editorial on the GOP's attitude toward Cheney:

    Purges for Unity
    Why are Republicans dumping Liz Cheney, who just won reelection, as an act of symbolic fealty to Donald Trump, who just lost?


    You guys know he lost, right?

    Representative Liz Cheney (R., Wyo.) is (probably) being pushed out of her leadership position, most likely in favor of Representative Elise Stefanik (R., N.Y.), because Representative Cheney is insufficiently Trump-loving and Stefanik is superabundantly Trump-loving.

    Do you know what Liz Cheney did in her last election? She won — bigly. Her Democratic opponent didn’t break 30 percent. If Donald Trump had won 70 percent of the vote in his election, Sean Hannity would have spontaneously given birth to twin pandas live on Fox News. Trump did well in Wyoming, turning in about the same numbers as Mitt Romney in 2012. But Trump wasn’t running for the House seat in Wyoming — he was running for president, and got 46.9 percent of the national vote, which is why he currently works as a part-time blogger in Florida.

    Republican leaders are living in talk-radio reality.

    In reality reality, things look a little different. When Trump was elected in 2016, Republicans already controlled the House of Representatives and the Senate. In 2021, they control the board of commissioners in Minnehaha County, S.D., and several very highly regarded hills of beans. Trump never got even to 50 percent approval, the first president in a generation to stay underwater for his entire term in office — and also the first since Herbert Hoover to see his party lose the White House and both houses of Congress in one term.

    One in six of the people who identified as Republicans on Election Day in 2020 no longer associate themselves with the Republican party — only 25 percent of American voters do. That’s the political price of January 6 and Trump’s post-election shenanigans. Any more unity, and Republicans will be holding their next convention in a corner booth at Denny’s. Win a campaign for president? Trump currently can’t win a campaign for a Facebook page.

    I don't care who you are, that's funny.
     
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  10. Pommer

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    The problem, though is that the 26% will be tempted to use violence instead of numbers to “win”.
     
  11. Aryeh Jay

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    As long as the correct person wins, does it matter how they win?
     
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  12. iluvatar5150

    iluvatar5150 Well-Known Member

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    This part is also funny;

    “Joe Biden is a ghastly old Washington dinosaur whose IQ and preferred thermostat setting have been converging for decades,”
     
  13. wing2000

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    "... the belief that the 2020 election was stolen, like the claim that former President Barack Obama was not born in America, is not amenable to fact-checking. The assertion of fraud is an ideological statement that political opposition to the Republican Party in general, and to Donald Trump in particular, is illegitimate. Even if Joe Biden got more votes, this logic holds, those votes should not count, because the people who cast them are not Real Americans the way Trump supporters are. To oppose Trump is to be The Enemy, and to be The Enemy is to surrender any claim to fundamental political rights."

    Yep
     
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