Literal Genesis is incoherent.

[Jimmy D]

It is quite clear who spoke through the snake.
Just like it's quite clear who spoke through the mule in Numbers 22:28

It's clearly the snake talking, are you adding to scripture?

 

[joshua 1 9]

He took six days on purpose, so as to make it a template for the workweek.

Exodus 20:9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:

So does that mean all of the universe was created as an object lesson for us to learn from? "For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood from His workmanship, so that men are without excuse." Romans 1:20 Every day, day after day people come on here insisting that they have an excuse when the Bible clearly says: "men are without excuse".

 

[joshua 1 9]

I can't help it if people don't know what to ask.

Jesus often answered questions with questions. I should learn how to do that.

https://mondaymorningreview.wordpress.com/2010/06/01/jesus-answering-questions-with-questions/

 

[TLK Valentine]

Jesus often answered questions with questions. I should learn how to do that.

https://mondaymorningreview.wordpress.com/2010/06/01/jesus-answering-questions-with-questions/

Now all you need is someone willing you ask you the questions...

 

[joshua 1 9]

Now all you need is someone willing you ask you the questions...

That is no problem, they chase all the christians out of here so the infidels sit around twiddling their thumbs waiting for someone to come along so they can try to convince them that the world does not exist and everything is an illusion. Do you think that people want to be needed?

 

[joshua 1 9]

... so you're God now are you?

If that were the case then what do you say about Jesus? What do you call Him? The One who Shed His Blood on Calvary so that we can we washed and cleansed of our sin. To be made Holy and Pure before Him.

34Jesus replied, “Is it not written in your Law: ‘I have said you are gods’ ? 35 If he called them gods to whom the word of God came — and the Scripture cannot be broken — 36 then what about the One whom the Father sanctified and sent into the world? John 10:35

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

If that were the case then what do you say about Jesus? What do you call Him? The One who Shed His Blood on Calvary so that we can we washed and cleansed of our sin. To be made Holy and Pure before Him.

34Jesus replied, “Is it not written in your Law: ‘I have said you are gods’ ? 35 If he called them gods to whom the word of God came — and the Scripture cannot be broken — 36 then what about the One whom the Father sanctified and sent into the world? John 10:35

Do you even know what that comment of mine was in reference to?

 

[joshua 1 9]

Do you even know what that comment of mine was in reference to?

AV brought the old thread up because the subject came up in a current post.

 

[joshua 1 9]

It's clearly the snake talking, are you adding to scripture?

Scripture is based on Shadow and Types or what currently people call an Allegory. In this case the serpent was the devil that deceived the world.

"He seized the dragon, the ancient serpent who is the devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years. 3And he threw him into the Abyss, shut it, and sealed it over him, so that he could not deceive the nations until the thousand years were complete". Rev 20:2

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

AV brought the old thread up because the subject came up in a current post.

So, no, you don't know what my original comment was in response to, then.

 

[joshua 1 9]

So, no, you don't know what my original comment was in response to, then.

You asked AV if he was God. We have the mind of Christ and the divine thoughts of God but there is no use to try to explain any of that because people with reprobate minds do not understand what it means to be born again and to be a new Creation in Christ. Eph4:22,23: "You were taught to put off your former way of life, your old self, which is being corrupted by its deceitful desires; to be renewed in the spirit of your minds"

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

You asked AV if he was God. We have the mind of Christ and the divine thoughts of God but there is no use to try to explain any of that because people with reprobate minds do not understand what it means to be born again and to be a new Creation in Christ. Eph4:22,23: "You were taught to put off your former way of life, your old self, which is being corrupted by its deceitful desires; to be renewed in the spirit of your minds"

You only got one part of that whole sentence right, and that was me asking AV if he was God. Now do you know WHY I asked him that question?

 

[Job 33:6]

This is for mostly just the YECs.

Why would an ultimate god need 6 whole days to create the universe? Why would he need to "rest" at all? How does this suggest God can do anything he wants? Surely makes more sence that its written that way so a "day" is simply the passage of time, and the "ages" of the earth at various points? Heck it even says "a day is a thousand years". Add to that that there are 2 different versions of wthe timeline in Genesis 1 and 2. Surely the people writing it would have not been so stupid as to not notice this. So with all things considered this shows that the timeline is very likely not meant to be literally either. And then we have humans made out of dirt, clay, mud. Whatever. And woman made out of mans rib, come on doesnt this suggest its a metaphor for something? And the tree of knowledge, how is that not a metaphor? And what of the fruit of the tree? Eating fruit of any tree isnt going to give you knowledge except of the way it tastes. Its a clear analogy! And take the talking Snake. I mean do you really think animals talked back then or does it make more sence to think it wasnt meant to be taken literally? And if it wasnt totally obvious up to now, they DID NOT die when they ate the fruit as God told them they would. You know why? Because it wasnt meant to be taken literally of course! It was meant to be much deeper, and more meaningfull that that.

Why would Jesus have to forgive us for what Adam and Eve did? How much sence do you think that makes? Surely it makes more sence to forgive us for OUR sins, you know the ones we actually have some kind control and responsibility over?

To believe in a literal Genesis is to make the entire idea completely incoherent and renders the whole story meaningless!

Ed

Correct, Genesis is not a science textbook. To believe in a literal Genesis would involve believing in a solid dome raqia in the sky:

 

[AV1611VET]

To believe in a literal Genesis would involve believing in a solid dome raqia in the sky:

Are you serious?

 

[Estrid]

Using Darwinism to analyze the rest of texts is unsound. Besides why would you want to do that? If a guy came to you as an alightist (one who doesn't believe in light), you get into a discussion with him about the speed of light? Or how light behaves in water?

Using "Darwinism" to analyze text?
That's a weird concept.

 

[Estrid]

Correct, Genesis is not a science textbook. To believe in a literal Genesis would involve believing in a solid dome raqia in the sky:

Could you say to what extent
"not a science text" means the
same as "non factual"?

 

[Astrophile]

Are you serious?

This person appears to be.

 

[AV1611VET]

This person appears to be.

This person is wrong.

The Bible no more describes a flat earth, than the Pacific Daily News does:

Sunrise: 06:21:03 AM
Sunset: 05:50:27 PM