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Discussion in 'Sign Gifts' started by Christsfreeservant, Aug 20, 2011.

  1. Christsfreeservant

    Christsfreeservant Senior Veteran Supporter

    United States
    DREAM: Our youngest son (US military) told us he had leukemia, and he had until January to live. END

    Leukemia – is “an often fatal cancer in which white blood cells displace normal blood, leading to infection, shortage of red blood cells anemia, bleeding, and other disorders.”

    Cancer – “a malignant tumor or growth caused when cells multiply uncontrollably, destroying healthy tissue. The different forms are sarcomas, carcinomas, leukemia, and lymphomas.”

    Cell – “politics - a small group of people who work together and are part of a larger organization, especially members of a political organization who work in secret.”

    My Understanding: My son usually represents the US government and military in my dreams, so I believe the Lord is saying that our US government and/or military has “leukemia,” i.e. there are secretive political cells within our government body which are displacing the normal cells. These abnormal cells are multiplying within the body of government in the USA uncontrollably and will inevitably cause the death of the US government and/or military as an independent republic.

    The Lord does not usually give me timetables. Since my son is symbolic of our government/military and “leukemia” is symbolic of secretive political cells which have infiltrated our government and are displacing the normal workings of our government body, are multiplying greatly, and will eventually kill our present form of government, it is possible that January is representative merely of a new beginning of a new government in the USA. Yet, it could be literal, too.

    I believe the Lord gave me this dream in connection with this passage of scripture from John 10 because he was showing that these “leukemia” cells are these shepherds who have come inside the pen by another way, that they are hired hands, they care nothing for the sheep, and when the “wolf” shows up, they will abandon us and will allow the wolf to consume us.

    Saturday, August 20, 2011, 6:09 a.m. – The song, “Jesus, Lead Me,” was playing in my mind when I awoke this morning. Speak, Lord, for your servant is listening. I read John 10:1-30:

    My Understanding: Jesus Christ is our good shepherd. He is the caretaker of God’s holy people, the church. Yet, God has also assigned human shepherds to watch over his flock. He has given them great responsibility to care for the Lord’s sheep until Jesus Christ returns to earth and sets up his kingdom reign of a thousand years here on the earth, and he becomes our only shepherd. There are also government shepherds, i.e. our government leaders whom God has placed in positions of leadership over nations. And he has, as well, given them great responsibility to care for the people of the earth.

    The sheep pen represents the body of Christ, his church. The entrance gate into the pen is Jesus Christ, and we enter the pen (church) through genuine faith in Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior. Yet, there are human shepherds of the sheep who have not come through the gate, but who have climbed into the pen by some other way. They are thieves and robbers. Sadly there are many such “thieves and robbers” among church leadership today who have come into the fold by another way other than through genuine faith in Jesus Christ, so we must be discerning about who is really of God and who is a robber of the sheep. I believe these “thieves and robbers” can also include political figures who present themselves as Christians in order to capture the sheep (believers in Jesus) in their traps.

    In contrast to those “thieves and robbers” who climb into the pen by another way is Jesus Christ, who is our true shepherd. The sheep who have come in through the gate listen to his voice and they follow him. The sheep who are listening to the good shepherd and who are following him will never follow a stranger, because they will not recognize a stranger’s voice. In fact, they will run away from strangers. I believe this calls for spiritual discernment. If we are truly listening to Jesus Christ and we are truly following him, we should recognize the voices of those shepherds who are strangers to the flock and those who have climbed into the pen by another way, and we should not follow them. And, in fact, we should run away from them.

    Then, Jesus contrasted the difference between those shepherds who were “thieves and robbers,” and himself. He said that, not only was he the good shepherd of the sheep, but he was the gate to the sheep pen, i.e. Jesus Christ is the only way to the Father and to eternity in heaven with God. Whoever comes into the church through genuine faith in Jesus Christ will be saved. Though the thief comes to kill and to destroy, Jesus has come to give us life that is full to overflowing with his Spirit, his love, grace and power. Many leaders within our churches and within our government are “thieves and robbers” who have only come to destroy the church and our nation, not to help it, but oftentimes they will come to us as wolves in sheep’s clothing, which is why we need to pray for much discernment.

    A hired hand is someone you pay to do work for you, but he or she does not usually live in your house and is not part of your family. Jesus referred to some of these human shepherds as “hired hands” who care nothing for the sheep. They are just doing a job. So, when they see a wolf coming, they abandon the sheep and run away. Then, the wolf attacks the flock and scatters it. And, again, this is true of many religious leaders as well as government leaders of the people. They are just a doing a job they were hired to do, and many of them truly care nothing for the people, though for a time they may give the pretense that they do. So, when the enemy infiltrates the church and/or our nation, these “hired hands” easily surrender to the enemy and allow them inside to attack the flock.

    Yet, Jesus Christ loved us so much that he lay down his life for the sheep. He died on a cross for our sins so that we could go free from the ultimate penalty of sin (eternal punishment in hell) and free from the control of sin over our daily lives. Those of us who have put our faith in Jesus Christ are saved from sin, are free from the control of sin over our lives, and we are given the hope and promise of eternal life in heaven with God.

    This is how we know we have truly come to believe in Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior. Jesus said that his sheep know his voice, they listen to him, and they follow him (obey him). For those who are truly listening (actively following) Jesus’ teachings and are obeying what he has taught us, we are given the hope of eternal life, we will never perish and no robber and thief can ever snatch us out of our Lord’s hand.

    Jesus, Lead Me / An Original Work / July 22, 2011

    Jesus, lead me all the way.
    Be my hope and be my stay.
    Gently lead me where I should go,
    So Your Spirit, I want to know.
    Open up my heart to You.
    Fill me with Your love and truth.
    Make my heart want to obey.
    Be my Lord today. Gently lead alway.

    Jesus, lover of my soul,
    Cleanse my heart, and make me whole;
    Be transformed in my heart today,
    As I turn from my sin and pray.
    Make Your will known to my heart.
    May I not from You depart.
    How I long to hear You now,
    As I humbly bow. Jesus, hear me now.

    Song Lyrics @ Public Domain


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  2. Christsfreeservant

    Christsfreeservant Senior Veteran Supporter

    United States
    I don't know the person who writes this blog, but it is excellent commentary on political events of the present in our world in relation to Bible prophecy. This man has a really good pulse on what is going on in the world and how the New World Order (the leukemia cells) are taking over the world. It fits very well with this dream from today as well as many, many previous dreams the Lord has given to me.

    Another Voice (Rev. 18:4)
  3. heron

    heron Legend

    In Relationship
    I had a similar sense when hearing criticism of Obama's homey midwest tour and vacation... that certain advisers (cell-like) might have sent him off to bring the people calm and cheer, while they orchestrated things before his September announcement.

    Following your earlier puppet dreams.

    Notice how close the solution announcement is to the 9-11 date, where people anticipate problems. And some of the recent legislation that might shore up whatever will be announced.

    Remember how GWB was doing PR work in a classroom when the country turned upside-down ten years ago.
  4. hadasseh

    hadasseh Seeker of Light

    I see your dreams are picking up again. So sad all the fighting world-wide. It's almost not news anymore, just the same old, same old.

    There is certainly cancer here, there, everywhere -- called sin. No wonder the earth groans for the manifestation of righteousness . . . the evil is becoming so strong, it can no longer be tolerated. I love our country and care for our leaders. I truly need help from God in knowing how to even vote in the upcoming election. Where is just one righteous man or woman in the land . . . who can truly, unselfishly lead this country? We need to find that person.
  5. eastcoast_bsc

    eastcoast_bsc Veteran


    In reading some of his links, I got a little spooked by his use of the word Zionist. The buzz word, as it is used today, usually has a bad connotation associated with it.

    I was also a little concerned with his talk about the Rapture. I don't feel the Rapture is backed in a Biblical sense.

    I do however agree with him in principle, regarding how the National and International events are connected.

    I also believe that we are in perilous times, it is all around us. I liked the blog piece on the medias recent discussion on a possible Alien invasion. The first thing I thought when viewing this story on MSNBC, as well as reading about it, was how it was. It sounded so childish on the surface, but they may have ulterior motives, i.e. prepping the masses. But who knows ? Time will tell.
  6. Christsfreeservant

    Christsfreeservant Senior Veteran Supporter

    United States
    Yes, we are definitely to be watchful and to be walking with our Lord daily in his truth.
  7. Christsfreeservant

    Christsfreeservant Senior Veteran Supporter

    United States
    I don't agree with everything this man says, as I don't agree with everything any man says, yet, as you sort of pointed out, he makes some really good points regarding National and International events, and how they are related to Biblical prophecy, and that is his strong point. I also do not believe in a pre-trib rapture, but I don't allow that difference in belief to keep me from reading and appreciating much of what else he has to say.

    Much of what he has written, of what I have read, has gone right along with what the Lord has shown me often through dreams and visions, and this article about Van Rompuy is no exception, as the Lord gave me many dreams about this man, including he put that name in my mind one morning when I had never heard of the man previously. What this blogger is saying about him definitely fits with the dreams I have had previously about him, which are posted on here, yet some date back a few years.

    I have heard previously that the N.W.O. is plotting a fake alien invasion, but I have not really had any word from the Lord on that subject, so I will refrain from making comments on that subject other than to say it is certainly possible that they could pull something like off and people believe it. Many people in America believe whatever they hear or see in the news.

    Thank you for responding, and thank you for your input on this subject.
  8. Christsfreeservant

    Christsfreeservant Senior Veteran Supporter

    United States
    hadasseh, your question you posed at the end of this brought to mind this passage of scripture, in particular v. 16:

    Isaiah 59

    Sin, Confession and Redemption

    1 Surely the arm of the LORD is not too short to save,
    nor his ear too dull to hear.
    2 But your iniquities have separated
    you from your God;
    your sins have hidden his face from you,
    so that he will not hear.
    3 For your hands are stained with blood,
    your fingers with guilt.
    Your lips have spoken lies,
    and your tongue mutters wicked things.
    4 No one calls for justice;
    no one pleads his case with integrity.
    They rely on empty arguments and speak lies;
    they conceive trouble and give birth to evil.
    5 They hatch the eggs of vipers
    and spin a spider’s web.
    Whoever eats their eggs will die,
    and when one is broken, an adder is hatched.
    6 Their cobwebs are useless for clothing;
    they cannot cover themselves with what they make.
    Their deeds are evil deeds,
    and acts of violence are in their hands.
    7 Their feet rush into sin;
    they are swift to shed innocent blood.
    Their thoughts are evil thoughts;
    ruin and destruction mark their ways.
    8 The way of peace they do not know;
    there is no justice in their paths.
    They have turned them into crooked roads;
    no one who walks in them will know peace.

    9 So justice is far from us,
    and righteousness does not reach us.
    We look for light, but all is darkness;
    for brightness, but we walk in deep shadows.
    10 Like the blind we grope along the wall,
    feeling our way like men without eyes.
    At midday we stumble as if it were twilight;
    among the strong, we are like the dead.
    11 We all growl like bears;
    we moan mournfully like doves.
    We look for justice, but find none;
    for deliverance, but it is far away.
    12 For our offenses are many in your sight,
    and our sins testify against us.
    Our offenses are ever with us,
    and we acknowledge our iniquities:
    13 rebellion and treachery against the LORD,
    turning our backs on our God,
    fomenting oppression and revolt,
    uttering lies our hearts have conceived.
    14 So justice is driven back,
    and righteousness stands at a distance;
    truth has stumbled in the streets,
    honesty cannot enter.
    15 Truth is nowhere to be found,
    and whoever shuns evil becomes a prey.
    The LORD looked and was displeased
    that there was no justice.
    16 He saw that there was no one,
    he was appalled that there was no one to intervene;
    so his own arm worked salvation for him,
    and his own righteousness sustained him.
    He put on righteousness as his breastplate,
    and the helmet of salvation on his head;
    he put on the garments of vengeance
    and wrapped himself in zeal as in a cloak.
    18 According to what they have done,
    so will he repay
    wrath to his enemies
    and retribution to his foes;
    he will repay the islands their due.
    19 From the west, men will fear the name of the LORD,
    and from the rising of the sun, they will revere his glory.
    For he will come like a pent-up flood
    that the breath of the LORD drives along.
    20 “The Redeemer will come to Zion,
    to those in Jacob who repent of their sins,”
    declares the LORD. 21 “As for me, this is my covenant with them,” says the LORD. “My Spirit, who is on you, and my words that I have put in your mouth will not depart from your mouth, or from the mouths of your children, or from the mouths of their descendants from this time on and forever,” says the LORD.
  9. Christsfreeservant

    Christsfreeservant Senior Veteran Supporter

    United States
    I had 5 previous dreams about Van Rompuy in 2009/10 and about 15 with my brother-in-law in them, who looks a lot like Rompuy, who I eventually came to realize symbolized him in my dreams. Some of those dreams date back to 2008. They have all been posted on this site. And, what "Another Voice" said about Rompuy definitely fit with some of those dreams.
  10. Christsfreeservant

    Christsfreeservant Senior Veteran Supporter

    United States
    This is the one dream that stands out in my memory with my brother-in-law in it, who I later realized symbolized Van Rompuy. You might find it interesting in light of what "Another Voice" said about him.

    Monday, September 28, 2009, 6:35 a.m. – I woke from THIS DREAM:

    We were in a house whose left side had windows all across the east wall and the north wall, at least. There were two curtains in each window – top and bottom. The top curtains were all white (sheer), and the bottoms were off-white or beige.

    We had been in the house for a year (or nearly), so I wanted to do some redecorating. I began to talk with my husband about this, but I wanted to make sure we could afford it first, so I looked on his dresser for a bill, maybe from Home Depot, because I wanted to see how much we owed first. I had the sense that whatever was leftover on this next pay check, after we paid the bill(s), was to be divided between me and my husband to use for what we wanted. I felt he already had some things in mind for how he wanted to spend the money, so I also asked him about that in order to see if what I had in mind was feasible.

    I wanted to replace all of the top curtains with dark (hunter) green curtains. Then, I went outside to get our bed and to bring it inside and to put it in the place of the single (twin) bed that was in there now. The headboard for the twin bed was up against the east wall (windows). Then, I began to examine and to take apart our bed from outside. It was sitting in a very dark area, perhaps sitting under some trees.

    The bed was also sitting on a very damp area of the ground. I saw a puddle of water near the head of the bed. The frame was beginning to rot out, and, in fact, there was already a hole in the base (like a Bunkie board) of the bed frame. I knew that, if I was going to save this bed, I needed to move it inside. So, I began to dismantle it, one piece at a time, and to carry it inside the house, and to set it up where a single (twin) bed had been.

    I didn’t know what we were going to do with the twin (single) bed, i.e. if we were going to give it away, sell it or trash it. It had a wooden frame with headboard and mattress (and I assume box springs). I thought about giving it to Dale. Then, I learned that Dale was out of work. The testing that he had been doing as a consultant was finished.

    On my last trip into the house with the bed pieces, I was thinking about how I needed to wash all the bedding, for the sheets, in particularly, had not been changed in a long time. I was thinking that I would need to take them to my parents’ apartment to use their washer and dryer, for some reason.

    Anyway, this last time that I came into the house, now carrying the bedding with me, I saw that all of the curtains had been removed from the windows. My B-I-L, Jeff, was there (the same one from a previous dream whose portrait hung over the kitchen sink – this one is not yet published). He appeared to either be part of this group that took all the curtains down or he was leading this group – this was unclear. I felt that they were preparing for some kind of party. And, the room that they were in was the same room as was our bedroom – the room with all the windows.

    I wondered why they took down all the curtains. I think I told the people in the room that I had plans to put dark green curtains in the tops of the windows. I must have referred to checking this out with my husband, because there was a feeling here that either someone insinuated that my husband was a wimp, or else I felt that is what they were thinking. So, I decided to correct this misnomer (a use of a wrong or unsuitable name or term to describe something or somebody – Encarta). I told the people in the room that my husband is no wimp. If he doesn’t agree with me on something, he stands up to me, puts his foot down, etc. He is no wimp! END

    I read these two news articles: Iran test fires missiles by Nasser Karimi - http://www.newsday.com/news/world/iran-test-fires-missiles-amid-flap-over-nukes-1.1479938?localLinksEnabled=false

    Bill Clinton Basks in Roll of World Savior - http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20090923/ts_alt_afp/usunpoliticsclintonobama_20090923141706;_ylt=Au0ImbPuvqNE1u7Oau6D08bZa7gF;_ylu=X3oDMTE2bWZsdGExBHBvcwMyBHNlYwN5bl9wcmludHBhZ2UEc2xrA2JhY2t0b3N0b3J5

    I woke this morning to this song in my mind: Homesick / MercyMe / Undone

    You're in a better place, I've heard a thousand times
    And at least a thousand times I've rejoiced for you
    But the reason why I'm broken, the reason why I cry
    Is how long must I wait to be with you

    Help me Lord cause I don't understand your ways
    The reason why I wonder if I'll ever know
    But, even if you showed me, the hurt would be the same
    Cause I'm still here so far away from home

    In Christ, there are no goodbyes
    And in Christ, there is no end
    So I'll hold onto Jesus with all that I have
    To see you again
    To see you again

    I close my eyes and I see your face
    If home's where my heart is then I'm out of place
    Lord, won't you give me strength to make it through somehow
    I've never been more homesick than now

    Speak, Lord, for your servant is listening. I read Daniel 6:

    To be continued next post...
  11. Christsfreeservant

    Christsfreeservant Senior Veteran Supporter

    United States
    My Understanding: Other possible related article: Dollar’s Day of Dominance May End http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/sep/29/dollars-days-of-dominance-may-end/

    I’ve been reading through the news article, World Must Deal with Iran’s Deception, by Howard L. Berman, and I have been comparing it to this dream. This is what I am seeing so far. I believe I am representing the United States and that my “husband” is comprised of those with whom we have political partnerships, in particularly Russia, China, Britain, France and Germany (the ‘P5 plus one’). The news article mentioned that these 6 countries will sit down with Iran in a meeting on Thursday. In the dream, “our bed,” i.e. the bed of me and my husband, i.e. the partnership agreement among the USA and these other 5 countries was seated outside under some trees (under kings/kingdoms). So, this is representing this meeting.

    The news article also stated that the principle item on the “agenda” of this meeting on Thursday is Iran’s illicit nuclear program. In the dream, the frame (agenda) of our bed (agreement) was rotting out and it had a hole (defect) in its base (foundation). The article continued by stating that if diplomacy did not “rapidly deliver results, the United States will have to adopt tough measures to stop Iran from obtaining nuclear arms.” In the dream, the tough measures that were being taken were to examine “our bed” that was rotting and had a hole in its base, to dismantle it, and to take it apart one piece at a time, to take it into “the house”, i.e. the White House, and to have it replace the “bed” that is now there, i.e. the government of the USA. “Our bed”, again, is this agreement we (the USA) have with these other countries.

    Then, the article stated that the regime of Iran needs to come clean. In the dream, it was the bedding off of “our bed”, i.e. this partnership agreement with Russia, China, Britain, France and Germany that needed to be washed. The sheets, in particularly, had not been changed in a long time. Sheets can symbolize pieces or pages of paper that had not been amended, altered or modified in a long time. So, this could be speaking of some type of document that exists among these countries – a treaty, perhaps. To “wash” can also mean to “launder”, i.e. to make something that is illegal appear legal. It can also mean to “clean house.”

    I felt that I needed to take these “sheets” to my parents’ house/apartment. Parent can signify the origin of something, i.e. the place these “sheets” originated, or it can be a reference to a radioactive particle that disintegrates to give a new particle nuclide as a subsequent member of a radioactive decay series” (Encarta).

    Continuing… the article stated that “Friday’s revelations about the second uranium enrichment plant cast a particularly dark shadow over Iranian intentions…” Ok, in the dream “our bed” was sitting (ruling; having authority) outside (public) in a dark (shadowy; evil; obscure) area under some trees (under the authority of other kings and kingdoms, like the One World Order, for instance). So, these other kings or kingdoms (trees) were casting a dark shadow over this meeting (in another dream, not yet published, there was the sense that our government or Obama, under the direction of other “heads”, perhaps created this letter, i.e. revelation).

    The article stated that the “window for Iran to demonstrate seriousness of purpose should start with the Thursday meeting and, as Obama has indicated, should close by the end of the year.” Ok, “windows” facing the east (Iran?) and the north (Russia?) were central at the beginning of this dream. And, the “headboard,” i.e. the president of the USA, of this single (twin) bed (the government of the USA as an independent nation), was against these windows facing east. So, there is an indication here that Obama’s headship is open to the east or is leaning against the east, i.e. is dependent upon the east in some capacity. That has been evident much in his speeches, his actions/decisions, as well as the Lord has frequently shown me this in dreams that Obama leans toward the east religiously and politically.

    These windows were also covered with curtains. Curtains provide privacy and protection, concealment, etc. I inquired of the Lord concerning the top curtains and the bottom curtains. If curtains provide security (privacy and protection), then the top and bottom curtains would symbolize two levels of security for our nation – the top level would be our government (3 branches) and the lower level would be our military, police, FBI, CIA, etc. The curtains on top were sheer, i.e. see-through or flimsy – weak; insubstantial; unconvincing; inadequate (protection or privacy). They were white in color. White is generally a symbol of purity and righteousness, though it can also mean white-wash. Curtains cover windows so that we can not see inside but they also serve to obscure, conceal, cover up or mask what’s inside. The picture here is that we are trying to give a “pure” image concerning our part (our relationship) with Iran, but it is anything but what we are picturing. Also, we are allowing Iran and Russia (perhaps other countries, as well) some access to what is going on inside our country, i.e. the curtains did not provide adequate protection.

    On another note concerning these “windows” of opportunity for Iran to demonstrate its seriousness, Obama indicated that this “window” should close by the end of the year. In the dream, at the end, the curtains all came down, so there was nothing left that was protecting us against the infiltration of other countries into these United States of America. To bring down the curtains, according to Encarta, means to bring an end to something. We know this means to bring an end to America as we now know it.

    Backing up here, the article stated that it is critical that the USA set “clear benchmarks (objectives; pursuits; goals) by which to judge Iranian intentions as well as unambiguous consequences if Iran fails to meet the criteria.” At the beginning of the dream, what I (the present government of the USA/the Obama administration) was setting as my objectives was to “redecorate” (overhaul; revamp) the White House (the government of the USA), to replace all of the top curtains (our present government) with dark (sinister; mysterious; shadowy; evil) hunter (predatory) green (envy; money replacing dollar; environmentalists; of man) curtains (protection). I’m not sure exactly what that means other than it means a revamping of the government of the USA. And, it sounds like the New World Order.

    Ok, I spoke with my “husband” about it, i.e. I spoke with these other partnering countries about the overhaul of the USA government. So, I looked on his (partnering countries) dresser (chest/bank – world bank - with sliding – varying according to changing conditions – drawers - the people who write checks or drafts instructing the drawees to pay someone else) for a bill (law proposal). The news article spoke of a “bill” – The Iran Refined Petroleum Sanctions Act – which “provides Obama with a mandate to increase the level of financial penalties against Iran and would prevent companies that facilitate the provision of gasoline and other refined petroleum products to Iran from doing business in the United States.” Does anyone besides me smell a rat? This sounds like a set-up to me.

    There’s more… I wanted to pay (give money to; punish; or reward) the bill (law proposal) with our pay (give money to; punish; or reward) check (examine something in order to establish its state or condition). Then, whatever was leftover was to be divided between me (the USA/Obama administration) and my husband (other world leaders). When I got to this part about “whatever was leftover”, I recalled the words spoken in Daniel 7 about the Fourth Beast.

    "Then I wanted to know the true meaning of the fourth beast, which was different from all the others and most terrifying, with its iron teeth and bronze claws—the beast that crushed and devoured its victims and trampled underfoot whatever was left. I also wanted to know about the ten horns on its head and about the other horn that came up, before which three of them fell—the horn that looked more imposing than the others and that had eyes and a mouth that spoke boastfully. As I watched, this horn was waging war against the saints and defeating them, until the Ancient of Days came and pronounced judgment in favor of the saints of the Most High, and the time came when they possessed the kingdom.”

    The news article continued by speaking of “detailed negotiations” with Iran, and of “incentives that could be offered in exchange for a satisfactory understanding of Iran’s nuclear intentions.” In the dream, the only thing that was being offered anyone was the “bed” (government) that now resides in the White House. And, it was being offered to Dale (valley; chasm; gulf; abyss – lion’s den). Dale was a consultant conducting some tests. Recent news articles about Iran have focused on the missile tests that they just conducted ahead of this meeting on Thursday. Dale, in real life, is a computer programmer consultant. So, this made me wonder if these “tests” were real or if they were computer simulated. Once the tests were over, he was out of a job.

    The news article stated that if these negotiations did not come to pass (passage; gap; gorge; valley; DALE), “we should be ready to immediately impose what Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has called ‘crippling sanctions’.” Ok, the only ‘crippling’ being done in this dream was the dismantling of “our bed” – our agreement and partnership with these other nations - taking it apart and bringing it into the house (White House) one piece at a time and putting it in place of the current “bed”, i.e. government of the USA.

    At the end of the dream, all of the curtains had been removed from the windows, i.e. we, as a nation, were no longer protected or separated from other nations. Jeff was party to this or led this and I felt it was some kind of a “party.” That led me to the article about Bill Clinton basking in the role of “world savior” and how he was throwing “a party”, i.e. his Clinton Global Initiative fifth annual session that took place to coincide with the UN General Assembly and was just blocks away. Bill’s name is William Jefferson Clinton. I can’t be sure this is “Jeff,” but that is what came to me. I do know that he is working toward or in cooperation with this One World Order. And, the Lord has shown him in previous dreams as the “King of Babylon.”

    At the very end of the dream, I stated that, contrary to popular opinion or to rumors, my “husband” was no wimp. I could not help but think here of Hillary and Bill Clinton. So many people have always considered that she wears the pants in the family and that he just goes along with her. Again, I can’t be sure that Bill Clinton is representing my “husband” here, but I do know that he represents this Global Initiative via this organization and his political associations, so he may be, in fact, the “husband” who is “no wimp” or at the very least, he represents them.
  12. prophecyistrue

    prophecyistrue Newbie

    Christian Seeker
    I agree with your attributing the disease to whats infiltrating the ranks and files of military, but could this also be a warning that this disease is infecting your son, since he speaks as one infected
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  13. Christsfreeservant

    Christsfreeservant Senior Veteran Supporter

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    I don't know. I do know that when he came home from Afghanistan this last time that he told his wife that he is not a believer in Jesus Christ, as she thought he was, so the worst cancer of all to affect him is non-belief in Jesus, and it is the one that most concerns me.
  14. eastcoast_bsc

    eastcoast_bsc Veteran


    Good points regarding the blogger Sue. I agree that there were no deal breakers in his beliefs. I just pointed it out.

    We are currently witnessing another country being taken control of, that is Libya. Syria is wearily casting their eyes upon these events, in the realization that they could be next. I still wonder how Russia and China figure into latter events, being that Russia and the US seem to have an antagonistic relationship; and that the US and China seem to be as they call it, "Frenemies" There seems to be an economic cooperation, but underlying that commonality, there seems to be a mutual mistrust and malevolent underside.
  15. Christsfreeservant

    Christsfreeservant Senior Veteran Supporter

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    Thank you for sharing those thoughts. I would encourage everyone reading this to not trust the media and their interpretation of world events, because most of what you see or read in the news are orchestrated, manipulated and calculated in order to deceive our minds into believing things that are not true. So, I would not trust the media's interpretation of the relationships between the USA and any country.

    Yes, Libya has been taken over by the N.W.O., which is what "The Wedding," the last dream posted, is about. The dream posted on here prior to that one, i.e. "The Furnace," talks about Iran, Russia and China, though I don't understand it all. It appeared that Russia may be providing the power and China the "cabinet," for this New World Order, though, I admit, I don't understand all of it. And, it appeared that Assad would have to step down and that I, representing the USA, had to step down in order to become part of the New World Order, the inner workings of which appear to be NATO (the alliance). There was a two-seater table all the way west in this dream with a chair in the west and one in the east, yet I was not real clear if that was in Europe, though most certainly part of it was, or if it represented the USA at all. I believe the USA government will be taken over just like these other governments are being taken over by the N.W.O, and it may be soon, but I don't know when.
  16. heron

    heron Legend

    In Relationship
    Yesterday the History Channel aired a show on ancient aliens. (Yes, you always catch me in these geeky habits.) They compared similarity of design of the Jerusalem temple with another ancient site which was named as a landing zone. (Ba’albek Lebanon??)

    This might end up relating to what you mentioned, in one way or another.
    [FONT=&quot] Mt 24:15 [/FONT][FONT=&quot]"Therefore when you see the ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION which was spoken of through Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place ...[/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot] [/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Daniel 9:27[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]And he will make a firm covenant with the many for one week, but in the middle of the week he will put a stop to sacrifice and grain offering; and on the wing of abominations[/FONT][FONT=&quot]/[/FONT]detestable things [FONT=&quot]will come one who makes[/FONT][FONT=&quot]desolate/causes horror, even until a complete destruction, one that is decreed, is poured out on the one who makes[/FONT][FONT=&quot] desolate.[/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot] [/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Daniel 11:31[/FONT][FONT=&quot] - [/FONT]
    For ships of Kittim will come against him; therefore he will be disheartened and will return and become enraged at the holy covenant and take action; so he will come back and show regard for those who forsake the holy covenant.

    Forces from him will arise, desecrate the sanctuary fortress, and do away with the regular sacrifice. And they will set up the abomination of desolation.

    By smooth words he will turn to godlessness those who act wickedly toward the covenant, but the people who know their God will display strength and take action.

    [FONT=&quot]Daniel 12:11 [/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]These words are concealed and sealed up until the end time. [/FONT][FONT=&quot]From the time that the regular sacrifice is abolished and the abomination of desolation is set up, there will be 1,290 days/ times/years. [/FONT][FONT=&quot]How blessed is he who keeps waiting and attains to the 1,335 [/FONT][FONT=&quot]days/ times/years[/FONT][FONT=&quot]! [/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot]But as for you, go your way to the end; then you will enter into rest and rise again for your allotted portion at the end of the age.[/FONT]

    Ships of Kittim – compare to USO research

    [FONT=&quot]Jer 2:10[/FONT][FONT=&quot] [/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Pass over islands/shores/region of Kittim (islanders of the Mediterranean Sea) and see, and send to Kedar and observe closely, and see if there has been such a thing as this![/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot]Numbers [/FONT][FONT=&quot]24:24[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]But ships shall come from the shores/region/islands of Kittim/Mediterranea Sea, and they shall afflict/occupy/stoop/humble Asshur/Assyria and will afflict/occupy/humble Eber/[/FONT][FONT=&quot] the region beyond[/FONT][FONT=&quot]; So they also/indeed will come to destruction.[/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot]Isaiah [/FONT][FONT=&quot]23:1[/FONT][FONT=&quot] Is translated very differently from the original Hebrew definitions:[/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot]The oracle concerning Tyre/rock/coast city of Mediterranean. Wail/howl, ships of Tarshish/Mediterranean islands of Phoenicians, for Tyre is destroyed, from/out of/expelling/due to [/FONT][FONT=&quot]receptacle/[FONT=&quot]house/temple [/FONT] [/FONT][FONT=&quot]or pass through/[FONT=&quot]cause to come/light upon[/FONT]; [/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot]It is reported/[/FONT][FONT=&quot]appeared/carried away captive /discovered/opened/revealed/uncovered [/FONT][FONT=&quot] to them from the [/FONT][FONT=&quot]islands/shores/region of Kittim/Mediterranean.[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]UFO in Jerusalem - YouTube[/FONT]
    Jersualem UFO 2011*WOW! Two Witnesses Record Same Event..*HD VIDEO* - YouTube

    http://www.stevequayle.com/Giants/Ancient.Civ_Technol/ancient.atomic.war.pt1.html mentions Ba’albek but I'm not sure if that's the same reference.
  17. Christsfreeservant

    Christsfreeservant Senior Veteran Supporter

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    heron, I read what you wrote here on the subject of aliens and racked my brain as to what I could have possibly been referring to with the quote you quoted from what I wrote. So, I went back to find the context for it and saw that I was speaking in reference to the blog "Another Voice," which I recommend, but which I added that I don't necessarily agree with everything he says but do believe he is right on about a lot of things. He had talked about a fake alien invasion in his blog, I believe, and so when I was commenting on his blog I made this statement from which you quoted me: