I am of the opinion that all problems in society came from the fall yes, but secondly they came from involving the first hebrew nation in the old testament to have a kingship. Some say that theocracies never work, yet we have never had a government simply legislate the Bible alone. The Jews never followed the strict tanach. They would go thousands of years not even reading the torah, and then King Josiah finds the scrolls one day all bundled up in the temple. So no we have never had a theocracy, accept before King saul. But no theocracy in the last four thousand years for sure. NOT A STRICT THEOCRACY.
The first amendment protects freedom of religion in some ways. And for that I am grateful, however I believe it also make it illegal to legislate religion as well.
What does the new testament teach about Government?
My theory is to follow this scripture:
"All Scripture
is given by inspiration of God, and
is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped
for every good work."
2 Timothy 3:16-17
if political work is a
good work, then the Bible it says "equips for
every good work."
then that including politics, and that means that it is good to be used for political purposes.
Can you follow the logic? Now there are many misconceptions of what it would mean to legislate scripture as law legally speaking and I wish to take previous comments from other threads (now closed to start of this conversation if that is ok).
The first comment was from
@Greengardener and she said this:
There are some questions as to what laws should be made into civil law. For example the law "you shall worship no other God." Does that mean it's illegal to be atheist or muslim? Well I would if I were to be in the place of trump running for 2020 as a person who would legislate the Bible. Upon getting elected I would have the top seminaries send the best of the best leaders and christian thinkers (which I would vet and interview with a panel) and declare what orthodox christianity is, and what doctrines incorporate that. The Trinity, soteriology, and covenants or dispensations, and any other doctrine.
On first hand I would outlaw non essential businesses from operating on the Sabbath. Gas stations, emergency rooms, police, hospitals, firefighters, etc are considered emergency services, they could all work but most commerce 99% of it would cease. But I am not sure about the gas station thing yet, I don't know if they are emergency. One could always have a spare can of gas. As far as American Holidays, there needs to be some explanation as to what is pagan and what is not. I believe Constantine blended roman holidays, pagan holidays with a christian twist when he converted to christianity. So they had pagan holidays, He gets saved, and now these same pagan holidays, now have a christian name. So we would do something a little different. We would take the christian part of the holiday, and remove the pagan aspects of them. This to me is only something that makes sense in a theocracy. Doing so now is merely personal basis. So for example on Christmas we would celebrate christs birth, but we would not have a tree, which was the pagan addition, but we would have something equally as fun, we would not take something away that we didn't substitute for something better. On easter we would have the resurrection celebrated but we would substitute out the easter bunny and the eggs which was the pagan addition. But we would still celebrate easter sunday, good friday....everyone would have good friday off as a paid holiday universally.
Again just because someone who had religious principles in government failed to follow the religion, does not mean that will be the case this time. That is called the fallacy of poisoning the well. Just because something is hard does not mean we don't do everything in our power to do what is right. I have a hard time believing that.
again Christ showed how religiousness without relationship was worthless, and condemned moralism and religiosity, without faith in Christ as the motivator. Christ sets us free from the law of sin and death, never the less. The law is not bad it is a school teacher to bring us to faith in Christ. While we will be legally required to follow the ten commandments you can follow them and still not be saved. It's not by our works we are saved. So this would just be civil law.
yes under normal circumstances I would agree that this task would be an impossibility. But our God is a God of the impossible and the Bible actually asks us to do impossible things in the name of Christ..."be perfect as I am perfect" for example. But to say it will happen like this this time, is impossible to know if we don't try.
Yes I would fast and pray for each member and ask for prayer and have prayer meetings to cover all of our own board meetings. If God is a God of prayer, He would meet us in our prayer and bless our nation. But ultimately if I was running for president I would have a choice over who was in the cabinet. Who was over everything. And I ultimately would pray to God to see what He wants me to do, not what I would want to do.
Power I am afraid is the one thing that would destroy the christian rule. Due to pride. But the fact that christianity is so peculiar to our culture: (homosexuality is wrong, a woman should submit, no women pastors, one woman one man marriage) that these things are meant to be rejected by the masses and people would in fact hate God's rule. So I don't think this will happen, but it's only because we don't truly believe in God's word, nor in the power of God to do something like this. But the Bible explicitly says if we had the faith of a mustard seed, He could move a mountain into the ocean.
I have been talking about this in other threads. All freedoms that one man gains, is at the cost of another mans freedom. The right to bear arms is at the cost of another mans freedom not to want people around him to be armed. The freedom to have homosexuals marry is at the cost of the freedom of a christian pastors rights NOT to marry them, or bake a cake for them, or take pictures of their event, etc. So you see, freedom is not free. Most if not all freedoms cost something. Freedom comes from God but it's not free. It is very costly. So again in Jesus condemning homosexuality He literally took their freedom away to become christian and obtain eternal life. He did so with the adulterer, and the thief and the lyer as well in dozens of verses. So yes Christianity does take away freedoms, it's probably one of the most limiting religion in the world as far as "worldly freedoms." But one of the most joyful for sure, due to serving others in Christ's love.
The early colonizers had in some limited aspects the same view I do, "let God rule the nation." It's not my own theory it's been practiced in some forms in some limited circles every since america was founded. In fact in a supreme court ruling a supreme court justice ruled "america is a christian nation." This ruling was overturned by the bill of rights and the constitution itself. But we should still strive for God to rule, again if scripture is "given by inspiration of God, and
is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work."
2 Timothy 3:16-17 and if political work is good work, then the Bible it says that itself alone "equips for every good work." so that including politics, and that means it can and should be legislated. Now that does not mean we should not each have our own walk with God and our own prayer life. But my cabinet by law will be required to read scripture, memorize scripture, to pray over decisions in various ways that will be part of their job. And if I don't think their walk with the Lord is right, or if they are getting too proud, I can fire them for no reason at all. Like any president can.
