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Let's talk about the "Holy Spirit"! I need help discerning it!

Discussion in 'General Theology' started by Mediakira, Nov 20, 2018.

  1. Mediakira

    Mediakira Senior Member

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    I feel my spirits going through my body. I felt Jesus Christ, and God and the Holy Spirit. But I feel other spirits too. Just Now talking about it I feel sick in the chest and then it goes away. Sometimes it affects my heart. I don't lie about it or make stories about. I just need a bit of help. Sometimes I feel spirits with feeling or the spirit that feels like a light in me. Then I feel a spirit that touches me and I end of crying because I know its God or Jesus.

    What are your thoughts, and experances? Or If you want to help me that's fine.
     
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  2. fat wee robin

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    Dear Mediakira ,
    I am hearing you ,if I do not yet know exactly how to help you .It is very late here and will look in again soon to see how you are doing .
    I supect you need to create concrete boundaries ,as you are subject to being too open to unseen energies ,sometimes good ,sometimes not so good .Creating concrete habits a of daily life will help ,but I need more info knowing nothing much about you .
    God bless you and keep you in His sight .
     
  3. geiroffenberg

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    very interesting post as you display a awarenss of things goin on in your body.This is not always common as christians today many times look at the body as "flesh" as something we need to get away from, nto understanding that the body is the temple of the holy spirit and supposed to be in union with him.
    But pls start to meditate and focus in your mind more on the actual present jesus as he is presented in the word, as the lamb that was slain but seated on the throne of god ruling the universe trough his omnipresent holy spirit. It is in that very turning of your mind to him and his reality that allowes the kingdom to come and take over in our lives. pls read this poorly written post slowly and attentive. i pray the light will be turned on, brother or sister.
    I say this because the only way we can control the spiritual "temprature" in and around us is by submitting to his rulership, while the spirit of god always is omnipresent, the real presence of the active holy spirit, the "lord" as in " the lord is the spirit and where the spirit is there is freedom", the real annoitning flows from jesus wounds and we receive them by turning our minds to this reality to receive THAT rather than what goes around us in the world.
    In other words, his death, his blood, is where we receive our life. That life is the spirit of life, and where the spirit of life is allowed to flow there is freedom, which is the freedom you are looking for. read the context of this in the last verses of 2 cor 3 to see that this happens by mind change, repentance, and by looking into (as in a mirror) the glory of god. That will confirm what im saying. This is how we grow up into maturity so we are not subject to every spiritual wind, good or bad, that blows on us, but only to the wind of the spirit drives us.
    That life is a substance that has the authority and power to drive out demons. This annointing flowing from the lamb as a river, is still omnipresnt and available for us all, but it takes this mind-turn, this focusing away from our condition and towards that reality of him. Our minds is then receiving his spirit and it then influences our circumstances.
    And in that, we give our bodies over to his spirit, to let him take it over, to own it and literally possess it (which means own it), we do that instead of giving attention to other spirits that may or may nto be felt in our bodily senses. We give our bodies to him, take our hands awy from it, because we brued it in baptism so that his resurection power could rule it. And then we feel HIS presence only and yield to it.
    But take note of this: our minds is in reception mode when we let the word of him, hsi death for us as he is seated on the throne of god almighty, it is this word where the spirit flows from. This is true faith in the gospel, and the gospel IS the power of god. We can not separate the spirit from the word.
    We repent in our minds, turn our minds to submitt to his spirit flowing from that throne, and thats how we get under his control. Until we learn this, we will be subject to influence from other spirits. hope it makes sense. It has taken med decades just to udnerstand this simple point.
     
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  4. geiroffenberg

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    sorry about the typos....
     
  5. JohnB445

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    I have a similar experience with this, except for me it attacks my head and tries to confuse me. For me praying and saying Jesus name is what helps me get rid of these instances, "You need to leave in Jesus name". Something like that. Pray and ask God to help you.

    As for feeling God touch you or the Holy Spirit inside of you. From my experience, I feel it very deep in my inner body and it sort of pulsates outwards. Feels like a rushing water, or a wavey feeling of energy.
     
  6. SkyWriting

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    Yes. I recommend personal help from actual saints. I've only found one in my decades.
     
  7. NBB

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    When God touches you is always something nice, and it feels natural, he does not do 'crazy' things, or things that confuse you or disturb you.
     
  8. bcbsr

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    I think the Holy Spirit works in us largely through the conscience and intuition. The conscience with regards to issues of sin. And the intuition regarding ideas. For example when it comes to interpreting scripture the Spirit guides us as to the spirit in which the author is speaking - getting to understand the proper sense of a passage. And as we grow in that regard with grow with respect to convictions, as faith comes from hearing the message, and with regards to applications as the Spirit prompts us to act on our convictions.
     
  9. tdidymas

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    Feelings are unreliable, since they are chemical reactions in the body. "Feeling" the Spirit is actually feeling the physical effects of what the Spirit is doing. What we do is associate certain feelings with what we know of God. Effects of the Holy Spirit is called "fruit," and consist of things like: love, joy, peace, patience, gentleness, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, and self-restraint. The Spirit's work is deeper than our feelings, and often drives it with godly desires.

    So what we have to do is trust God to give us the right spirit. We do this by understanding that Christ's work was sufficient to reconcile us to God. When we are trusting God, we believe that God is working His will in us. So then, faith transcends feelings. When feelings go wrong, our trust in God tends to set us in the right path, sometimes in opposition to very strong feelings.

    Indeed, some people give us "bad vibes." When that happens, we are still to trust God for His protection and guidance. If we meet an enemy (a fleshly one), we are to pray for that person and be kind to them to show that we believe in the God Who loves. If we meet an unseen enemy (an unclean spirit), we are to trust in God's protection and guidance, and "cast it out with a word" (like Jesus did - such as "begone").

    The bottom line is, trust God's word, not your feelings.
    TD:)
     
  10. Mediakira

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    Yes, I've been getting bad spirits going through my body that I do know. They hurt, and there from the Sons of God. I don't know if there angels, or what they are. I asked God the Father when I pray to Him. And that's what they are called. But God says that He is the Only living God. So, what is attacking me. I've been attacking by spirits since my toddler stages. When I first when to a Nazarene church in Piqua, Ohio. I loved that church I felt Jesus Christ that time as a toddler. When I got my cookies and Kool-laid.

    My brain hasn't doing to great. I'm good when you first see me. Then you see it when I begin to speak, or write. My grammour is bad, and I speak in 5th grade style. Right now my brain feels like I'm under a battle between spirits. Now I have mental illnesses for 6 years. Some I think are over diagnosed because I still see ghosts in the city of Sidney in ohio. It felt like the city was haunted.

    My eye sight is fine, and beautiful 20/20. But I use my hands like I'm blind.

    I rely on my spirit self since I was a kid, and I always felt like pieces of me dying. I was always depressed.
     
  11. W2L

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    The Holy Spirit is like an anchor for my soul.
     
  12. Mediakira

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    Yes, I love it. He and Jesus feels the same. That makes the Father and Son relations. I cry when They touch me. It's wonderful. And it makes me feel more happier when I saw Jesus Christ kneeling beside my bed smiling, and Father doing a burning bush with a light bulb in my hospital room. lol
     
  13. Mediakira

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    I agree. I feel the same way. I get attacking to the brain too. Even when I try to go to sleep after I pray to Jesus.
     
  14. fat wee robin

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    You are correct about some people being or having evil vibes ,but it is dangerous for a person who is vulnerable to pray for them as it can permit their bad energy
    to enter them .
     
  15. fat wee robin

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    I council you to do the opposite if what Tidymas said .You should avoid as much as possible anyone who causes you to feel bad ,and to ask Jesus to strengthen your mind and heart ,to be able to keep bad energies at bay .
    Put on the armour of God .

    Do you read stories and watch good films which can uplift your spirit and make you feel good . Only reading the bible is too narrow ,it is good to learn about people ,perhaps stories of saints and other heros .

    May I ask are ,you normally ill ,or just from time to time ?
     
  16. tdidymas

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    I don't think your idea is Biblical. If you think it is, then cite the Biblical text that supports what you are saying. If a person has the Holy Spirit and being led by the Spirit to pray for someone, then they are not open for a "bad energy" in the least. Here is my scriptural support:

    1. The Holy Spirit prays for us when we don't know how - Rom. 8:26
    2. We are exhorted to pray for brothers - 1 John 5:16 (but not if they are committing sin unto death), and many other scriptures have the same exhortation
    3. We are exhorted to pray for persecutors - Mat. 5:44
    4. We are encouraged to be kind to enemies - Rom. 12:20

    I guess your statement begs the question: are you charismatic, and your idea of prayer is public with laying on of hands? What - you ask the person if you can pray for them and you go to touch them? If this is your idea, then no wonder you think you are open to bad energy when you pray for someone.

    I'm simply saying to pray for them. Who knows, if you do a silent prayer to God, if God will answer and cast out demons from that person? Have you thought of that?

    Like I said, please cite the Biblical text that supports what you are saying.
    TD:)
     
  17. fat wee robin

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    I am speaking to this particular person, not generalising . When a person is particularly vulnerable ,and perhaps isolated ,it can be dangerous for them to be too close with cartain people who can destabilise them .
    Later if they become stronger then let them pray for all who need it .
    No I am not a sola sriptura , nor any other label ,but have lots experience of people ,religions ,and history ,and by the guidance of the Holy Spirit, try to help a little , those who need experience of maturity , not rigid ideology .:bow:
     
  18. tdidymas

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    How is what I wrote rigid ideology? You have the burden of proof to show your assessment true. I was merely trying to edify others by quoting what Jesus spoke to the general population and what His apostles wrote. If a person is filled with the Holy Spirit, then they have God's protection and are not "vulnerable" to spiritual destabilization. It takes faith to be filled with the Spirit. Therefore, the implication in your statement has the presumption that the person you are referring to lacks faith. Your exhortation sounds like you are encouraging that person to fear people with bad influences and run from them. If that is your assessment of them, then I can certainly see why you said what you did. I am trying to direct that person to faith, not to fear.
    TD:)
     
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