Let's Study the LAST Chapter of the Bible

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"Tartarus was not emptied, as multiple evil spirits are released from Tartarus to attack and torment mankind in the book of Revelation." hum.. that is what I am talking about . if he emptied Abrahams bosom the first time to gather his ..
and just opens it to make it naked the second time ( resurrection of all the dead and all other things powers and authorities , entities ) . so maybe things will get interesting maybe if man sees what they really built and dedicated their lives for ?
 
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seems you haven't been through the maggot phase yet.. well then you have that to look forward too. :ebil::ebil::ebil::oldthumbsup:
Whats a Maggot phase?
And why would i look forward to it?

Sounds rather peculiar...
 
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Whats a Maggot phase?
And why would i look forward to it?

Sounds rather peculiar...
yes that is one of those
" pick up your cross and follow me " things . He is to be our example.
well he will take everyone there where we can't feel any smaller any more helpless and yet we still find hope in him only .
 
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yes that is one of those
" pick up your cross and follow me " things . He is to be our example.
well he will take everyone there where we can't feel any smaller any more helpless and yet we still find hope in him only .
Did you finish reading Job?
Forgive me, I can offer you no doubt in my Faith.
Still not sure of what you mean. I am open to suggestions or advice.


38 Then the Lord answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said,
2 Who is this that darkeneth counsel by words without knowledge?
3 Gird up now thy loins like a man; for I will demand of thee, and answer thou me.
4 Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.
5 Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it?
6 Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof;
7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?
8 Or who shut up the sea with doors, when it brake forth, as if it had issued out of the womb?
9 When I made the cloud the garment thereof, and thick darkness a swaddlingband for it,
10 And brake up for it my decreed place, and set bars and doors,
11 And said, Hitherto shalt thou come, but no further: and here shall thy proud waves be stayed?
12 Hast thou commanded the morning since thy days; and caused the dayspring to know his place;
13 That it might take hold of the ends of the earth, that the wicked might be shaken out of it?
14 It is turned as clay to the seal; and they stand as a garment.
15 And from the wicked their light is withholden, and the high arm shall be broken.
16 Hast thou entered into the springs of the sea? or hast thou walked in the search of the depth?
17 Have the gates of death been opened unto thee? or hast thou seen the doors of the shadow of death?
18 Hast thou perceived the breadth of the earth? declare if thou knowest it all.
19 Where is the way where light dwelleth? and as for darkness, where is the place thereof,
20 That thou shouldest take it to the bound thereof, and that thou shouldest know the paths to the house thereof?
21 Knowest thou it, because thou wast then born? or because the number of thy days is great?
22 Hast thou entered into the treasures of the snow? or hast thou seen the treasures of the hail,
23 Which I have reserved against the time of trouble, against the day of battle and war?
24 By what way is the light parted, which scattereth the east wind upon the earth?
25 Who hath divided a watercourse for the overflowing of waters, or a way for the lightning of thunder;
26 To cause it to rain on the earth, where no man is; on the wilderness, wherein there is no man;
27 To satisfy the desolate and waste ground; and to cause the bud of the tender herb to spring forth?
28 Hath the rain a father? or who hath begotten the drops of dew?
29 Out of whose womb came the ice? and the hoary frost of heaven, who hath gendered it?
30 The waters are hid as with a stone, and the face of the deep is frozen.
31 Canst thou bind the sweet influences of Pleiades, or loose the bands of Orion?
32 Canst thou bring forth Mazzaroth in his season? or canst thou guide Arcturus with his sons?
33 Knowest thou the ordinances of heaven? canst thou set the dominion thereof in the earth?
34 Canst thou lift up thy voice to the clouds, that abundance of waters may cover thee?
35 Canst thou send lightnings, that they may go and say unto thee, Here we are?
36 Who hath put wisdom in the inward parts? or who hath given understanding to the heart?
37 Who can number the clouds in wisdom? or who can stay the bottles of heaven,
38 When the dust groweth into hardness, and the clods cleave fast together?
39 Wilt thou hunt the prey for the lion? or fill the appetite of the young lions,
40 When they couch in their dens, and abide in the covert to lie in wait?
41 Who provideth for the raven his food? when his young ones cry unto God, they wander for lack of meat.
Knowest thou the time when the wild goats of the rock bring forth? or canst thou mark when the hinds do calve?
2 Canst thou number the months that they fulfil? or knowest thou the time when they bring forth?
3 They bow themselves, they bring forth their young ones, they cast out their sorrows.
4 Their young ones are in good liking, they grow up with corn; they go forth, and return not unto them.
5 Who hath sent out the wild ass free? or who hath loosed the bands of the wild ass?
6 Whose house I have made the wilderness, and the barren land his dwellings.
7 He scorneth the multitude of the city, neither regardeth he the crying of the driver.
8 The range of the mountains is his pasture, and he searcheth after every green thing.
9 Will the unicorn be willing to serve thee, or abide by thy crib?
10 Canst thou bind the unicorn with his band in the furrow? or will he harrow the valleys after thee?
11 Wilt thou trust him, because his strength is great? or wilt thou leave thy labour to him?
12 Wilt thou believe him, that he will bring home thy seed, and gather it into thy barn?
13 Gavest thou the goodly wings unto the peacocks? or wings and feathers unto the ostrich?
14 Which leaveth her eggs in the earth, and warmeth them in dust,
15 And forgetteth that the foot may crush them, or that the wild beast may break them.
16 She is hardened against her young ones, as though they were not her's: her labour is in vain without fear;
17 Because God hath deprived her of wisdom, neither hath he imparted to her understanding.
18 What time she lifteth up herself on high, she scorneth the horse and his rider.
19 Hast thou given the horse strength? hast thou clothed his neck with thunder?
20 Canst thou make him afraid as a grasshopper? the glory of his nostrils is terrible.
21 He paweth in the valley, and rejoiceth in his strength: he goeth on to meet the armed men.
22 He mocketh at fear, and is not affrighted; neither turneth he back from the sword.
23 The quiver rattleth against him, the glittering spear and the shield.
24 He swalloweth the ground with fierceness and rage: neither believeth he that it is the sound of the trumpet.
25 He saith among the trumpets, Ha, ha; and he smelleth the battle afar off, the thunder of the captains, and the shouting.
26 Doth the hawk fly by thy wisdom, and stretch her wings toward the south?
27 Doth the eagle mount up at thy command, and make her nest on high?
28 She dwelleth and abideth on the rock, upon the crag of the rock, and the strong place.
29 From thence she seeketh the prey, and her eyes behold afar off.
30 Her young ones also suck up blood: and where the slain are, there is she.
40 Moreover the Lord answered Job, and said,
2 Shall he that contendeth with the Almighty instruct him? he that reproveth God, let him answer it.
3 Then Job answered the Lord, and said,
4 Behold, I am vile; what shall I answer thee? I will lay mine hand upon my mouth.
5 Once have I spoken; but I will not answer: yea, twice; but I will proceed no further.
6 Then answered the Lord unto Job out of the whirlwind, and said,
7 Gird up thy loins now like a man: I will demand of thee, and declare thou unto me.
8 Wilt thou also disannul my judgment? wilt thou condemn me, that thou mayest be righteous?
9 Hast thou an arm like God? or canst thou thunder with a voice like him?
10 Deck thyself now with majesty and excellency; and array thyself with glory and beauty.
11 Cast abroad the rage of thy wrath: and behold every one that is proud, and abase him.
12 Look on every one that is proud, and bring him low; and tread down the wicked in their place.
13 Hide them in the dust together; and bind their faces in secret.
14 Then will I also confess unto thee that thine own right hand can save thee.
15 Behold now behemoth, which I made with thee; he eateth grass as an ox.
16 Lo now, his strength is in his loins, and his force is in the navel of his belly.
17 He moveth his tail like a cedar: the sinews of his stones are wrapped together.
18 His bones are as strong pieces of brass; his bones are like bars of iron.
19 He is the chief of the ways of God: he that made him can make his sword to approach unto him.
20 Surely the mountains bring him forth food, where all the beasts of the field play.
21 He lieth under the shady trees, in the covert of the reed, and fens.
22 The shady trees cover him with their shadow; the willows of the brook compass him about.
23 Behold, he drinketh up a river, and hasteth not: he trusteth that he can draw up Jordan into his mouth.
24 He taketh it with his eyes: his nose pierceth through snares.
Canst thou draw out leviathan with an hook? or his tongue with a cord which thou lettest down?
2 Canst thou put an hook into his nose? or bore his jaw through with a thorn?
3 Will he make many supplications unto thee? will he speak soft words unto thee?
4 Will he make a covenant with thee? wilt thou take him for a servant for ever?
5 Wilt thou play with him as with a bird? or wilt thou bind him for thy maidens?
6 Shall the companions make a banquet of him? shall they part him among the merchants?
7 Canst thou fill his skin with barbed irons? or his head with fish spears?
8 Lay thine hand upon him, remember the battle, do no more.
9 Behold, the hope of him is in vain: shall not one be cast down even at the sight of him?
10 None is so fierce that dare stir him up: who then is able to stand before me?
11 Who hath prevented me, that I should repay him? whatsoever is under the whole heaven is mine.
12 I will not conceal his parts, nor his power, nor his comely proportion.
13 Who can discover the face of his garment? or who can come to him with his double bridle?
14 Who can open the doors of his face? his teeth are terrible round about.
15 His scales are his pride, shut up together as with a close seal.
16 One is so near to another, that no air can come between them.
17 They are joined one to another, they stick together, that they cannot be sundered.
18 By his neesings a light doth shine, and his eyes are like the eyelids of the morning.
19 Out of his mouth go burning lamps, and sparks of fire leap out.
20 Out of his nostrils goeth smoke, as out of a seething pot or caldron.
21 His breath kindleth coals, and a flame goeth out of his mouth.
22 In his neck remaineth strength, and sorrow is turned into joy before him.
23 The flakes of his flesh are joined together: they are firm in themselves; they cannot be moved.
24 His heart is as firm as a stone; yea, as hard as a piece of the nether millstone.
25 When he raiseth up himself, the mighty are afraid: by reason of breakings they purify themselves.
26 The sword of him that layeth at him cannot hold: the spear, the dart, nor the habergeon.
27 He esteemeth iron as straw, and brass as rotten wood.
28 The arrow cannot make him flee: slingstones are turned with him into stubble.
29 Darts are counted as stubble: he laugheth at the shaking of a spear.
30 Sharp stones are under him: he spreadeth sharp pointed things upon the mire.
31 He maketh the deep to boil like a pot: he maketh the sea like a pot of ointment.
32 He maketh a path to shine after him; one would think the deep to be hoary.
33 Upon earth there is not his like, who is made without fear.
34 He beholdeth all high things: he is a king over all the children of pride.

Only in Him..
Yeshua/Jesus are we saved..
Living Sacrifices
3For through the grace given to me I say to everyone among you not to think more highly of himself than he ought to think; but to think so as to have sound judgment, as God has allotted to each a measure of faith. 4For just as we have many members in one body and all the members do not have the same function, 5so we, who are many, are one body in Christ, and individually members one of another.…
 
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DO you like to fight? I wasn't ! I was just pointing out interesting points that are good to contemplate, pray about , mediate and chew on ..
but do you want to fight about something?
then I won't play. but I do love finding cool and interesting things that help us understand him better if we meditate on him and what he is doing or saying in those places.
why are you bring up Job when discussing REV anyway..
that one chapter was rife with end time pictures.
but maybe you didn't see how full of prophetic imagery those verses appeared .
but you will have to fight with yourself if that is what you are doing. .
 
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DO you like to fight? I wasn't ! I was just pointing out interesting points that are good to contemplate, pray about , mediate and chew on ..
but do you want to fight about something?
then I won't play. but I do love finding cool and interesting things that help us understand him better if we meditate on him and what he is doing or saying in those places.
why are you bring up Job when discussing REV anyway..
that one chapter was rife with end time pictures.
but maybe you didn't see how full of prophetic imagery those verses appeared .
but you will have to fight with yourself if that is what you are doing. .

Yes it is full of end time imagery.

Just as it is with Ezekiel..
If it is to much I apologize. I am only being honest and showing you the Scripture. I tried to tell you before hand the book of Job shook me to my bones. The Holy Scripture has a way of doing that.
Job and Daniel are 2 books that have to do with Revelation also.

God Bless you.
 
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bless you too
if you want other oppionions of verses just ask we all will see it different we all have different gifts and no one is supposed to see things exactly the same , not every part of the body is an eye and eye and an arm will see him differently. it is not to fight about but to gain depth and width of understanding from.
 
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וַיֹּאמֶר לָהֶם הַמֶּלֶךְ, חֲלוֹם חָלָמְתִּי; וַתִּפָּעֶם רוּחִי, לָדַעַת אֶת-הַחֲלוֹם. 3 And the king said unto them: 'I have dreamed a dream, and my spirit is troubled to know the dream.'

19 it is thou, O king, that art grown and become strong; for thy greatness is grown, and reacheth unto heaven, and thy dominion to the end of the earth.
כ וְדִי חֲזָה מַלְכָּא עִיר וְקַדִּישׁ נָחִת מִן-שְׁמַיָּא וְאָמַר גֹּדּוּ אִילָנָא וְחַבְּלוּהִי, בְּרַם עִקַּר שָׁרְשׁוֹהִי בְּאַרְעָא שְׁבֻקוּ, וּבֶאֱסוּר דִּי-פַרְזֶל וּנְחָשׁ, בְּדִתְאָא דִּי בָרָא; וּבְטַל שְׁמַיָּא יִצְטַבַּע, וְעִם-חֵיוַת בָּרָא חֲלָקֵהּ, עַד דִּי-שִׁבְעָה עִדָּנִין, יַחְלְפוּן עֲלוֹהִי. 20 And whereas the king saw a watcher and a holy one coming down from heaven, and saying: Hew down the tree, and destroy it; nevertheless leave the stump of the roots thereof in the earth, even in a band of iron and brass, in the tender grass of the field; and let it be wet with the dew of heaven, and let his portion be with the beasts of the field, till seven times pass over him--
כא דְּנָה פִשְׁרָא, מַלְכָּא; וּגְזֵרַת עליא (עִלָּאָה) הִיא, דִּי מְטָת עַל-מָרִאי מַלְכָּא. 21 this is the interpretation, O king, and it is the decree of the Most High, which is come upon my lord the king,
כב וְלָךְ טָרְדִין מִן-אֲנָשָׁא וְעִם-חֵיוַת בָּרָא לֶהֱוֵה מְדֹרָךְ וְעִשְׂבָּא כְתוֹרִין לָךְ יְטַעֲמוּן, וּמִטַּל שְׁמַיָּא לָךְ מְצַבְּעִין, וְשִׁבְעָה עִדָּנִין, יַחְלְפוּן עליך (עֲלָךְ): עַד דִּי-תִנְדַּע, דִּי-שַׁלִּיט עליא (עִלָּאָה) בְּמַלְכוּת אֲנָשָׁא, וּלְמַן-דִּי יִצְבֵּא, יִתְּנִנַּהּ. 22 that thou shalt be driven from men, and thy dwelling shall be with the beasts of the field, and thou shalt be made to eat grass as oxen, and shalt be wet with the dew of heaven, and seven times shall pass over thee; till thou know that the Most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever He will.

15 Behold now behemoth, which I made with thee; he eateth grass as an ox.
טז הִנֵּה-נָא כֹחוֹ בְמָתְנָיו; וְאוֹנוֹ, בִּשְׁרִירֵי בִטְנוֹ. 16 Lo now, his strength is in his loins, and his force is in the stays of his body.
יז יַחְפֹּץ זְנָבוֹ כְמוֹ-אָרֶז; גִּידֵי פַחֲדָו יְשֹׂרָגוּ. 17 He straineth his tail like a cedar; the sinews of his thighs are knit together.
יח עֲצָמָיו, אֲפִיקֵי נְחֻשָׁה; גְּרָמָיו, כִּמְטִיל בַּרְזֶל. 18 His bones are as pipes of brass; his gristles are like bars of iron.
יט הוּא, רֵאשִׁית דַּרְכֵי-אֵל; הָעֹשׂוֹ, יַגֵּשׁ חַרְבּוֹ. 19 He is the beginning of the ways of God; He only that made him can make His sword to approach unto him.
כ כִּי-בוּל, הָרִים יִשְׂאוּ-לוֹ; וְכָל-חַיַּת הַשָּׂדֶה, יְשַׂחֲקוּ-שָׁם. 20 Surely the mountains bring him forth food, and all the beasts of the field play there.
כא תַּחַת-צֶאֱלִים יִשְׁכָּב-- בְּסֵתֶר קָנֶה וּבִצָּה. 21 He lieth under the lotus-trees, in the covert of the reed, and fens.
כב יְסֻכֻּהוּ צֶאֱלִים צִלְלוֹ; יְסֻבּוּהוּ, עַרְבֵי-נָחַל. 22 The lotus-trees cover him with their shadow; the willows of the brook compass him about.
כג הֵן יַעֲשֹׁק נָהָר, לֹא יַחְפּוֹז; יִבְטַח, כִּי-יָגִיחַ יַרְדֵּן אֶל-פִּיהוּ. 23 Behold, if a river overflow, he trembleth not; he is confident, though the Jordan rush forth to his mouth.
כד בְּעֵינָיו יִקָּחֶנּוּ; בְּמוֹקְשִׁים, יִנְקָב-אָף. 24 Shall any take him by his eyes, or pierce through his nose with a snare? תִּמְשֹׁךְ לִוְיָתָן בְּחַכָּה; וּבְחֶבֶל, תַּשְׁקִיעַ לְשֹׁנוֹ.


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Canst thou draw out leviathan with a fish-hook? or press down his tongue with a cord?
כו הֲתָשִׂים אַגְמֹן בְּאַפּוֹ; וּבְחוֹחַ, תִּקֹּב לֶחֱיוֹ. 26 Canst thou put a ring into his nose? or bore his jaw through with a hook?
כז הֲיַרְבֶּה אֵלֶיךָ, תַּחֲנוּנִים; אִם-יְדַבֵּר אֵלֶיךָ רַכּוֹת. 27 Will he make many supplications unto thee? or will he speak soft words unto thee?
כח הֲיִכְרֹת בְּרִית עִמָּךְ; תִּקָּחֶנּוּ, לְעֶבֶד עוֹלָם. 28 Will he make a covenant with thee, that thou shouldest take him for a servant for ever?
כט הַתְשַׂחֶק-בּוֹ, כַּצִּפּוֹר; וְתִקְשְׁרֶנּוּ, לְנַעֲרוֹתֶיךָ. 29 Wilt thou play with him as with a bird? Or wilt thou bind him for thy maidens?
ל יִכְרוּ עָלָיו, חַבָּרִים; יֶחֱצוּהוּ, בֵּין כְּנַעֲנִים. 30 Will the bands of fishermen make a banquet of him? Will they part him among the merchants?
לא הַתְמַלֵּא בְשֻׂכּוֹת עוֹרוֹ; וּבְצִלְצַל דָּגִים רֹאשׁוֹ. 31 Canst thou fill his skin with barbed irons? or his head with fish-spears?
לב שִׂים-עָלָיו כַּפֶּךָ; זְכֹר מִלְחָמָה, אַל-תּוֹסַף. 32 Lay thy hand upon him; think upon the battle, thou wilt do so no more.
 
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