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Lengthy Protestant Criticism...

Discussion in 'The Ancient Way - Eastern Orthodox' started by Bushmaster78FS, Sep 15, 2008.

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  1. Bushmaster78FS

    Bushmaster78FS Senior Contributor

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    A few years back, right after I was baptized in the Orthodox Church, there was one and one online friend of mine had the biggest opposition to my conversion. I had posted some of his comments about Orthodoxy here before, in which he showed quite a bit ignorance about the Orthodox Church and confusion between RCC doctrines/dogma and ours. He doesn't think we are on the right path anymore, and he doesn't address me directly... This is what he emailed to Nichole after she forwarded the news article to a bunch of people on her address book... I never get a straight answer as to his denomination, he apparently belongs to one, but always I get the runaround. Please comment as necessary. One thing I never got him to do was to pick a book about Orthodoxy, he is already convinced we are wrong. We are planning to write an answer to him, which should answer his misconceptions and present sound Orthodox teachings. He addresses Nichole in this mail, maybe not being aware that she is already chrismated, it sounds he is trying to explain she shouldn't be involved. But anyway, have a read, and let us know...

     
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  2. rusmeister

    rusmeister A Russified American Orthodox Chestertonian

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    If he is not open to learning, there is not much you can say to him.

    It's remarkable, given that he does say some good things.

    I imagine that if he were open, you could offer him things like
    http://www.antiochian.org/node/16904 (Infant baptism) and so on.
     
  3. Machachachi

    Machachachi Becoming Orthodox

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    *Removed because I could use a little humility*
     
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  4. ArmyMatt

    ArmyMatt Regular Member Supporter

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    he keeps stressing the unity of the Faith, so ask him about how far back he can trace his union, and there should be historical evidence to back up his claims. as Orthodox we have all the Fathers from century one until today, so we can see our unity. I'd say, if he brings it up again, get him on what church he is united with, and is that church united with the belief of the Apostles.

    truism amongst truisms
     
  5. Philothei

    Philothei Love never fails

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    he does not 'understand' he just goes along with it... He offers 'lip service" to y'all... as he later asks Nichole to "rebellion" against your decision...by calling you John "heretical". Do you really need that friendship that undermines your decisions and "insults" your faith? I personally would not... But it is y'all decision...;)

    He sounds rather hypocritial to me....
     
  6. Shubunkin

    Shubunkin Antiochian Orthodox Christian

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    Typical. I was there once, but not quite so openly arrogant about it. I mostly kept such thoughts to myself. Anyway, I understand where he is coming from, and it is blindness caused by denominationalism, "we are right, and everyone else is wrong," so nevermind if you like it, or not. Well, first step is to dispel the myths, and then get down to Church History. That is, if he is open to it. If not, then not much you, or anyone, can do about it. Perhaps God will open his mind someday, and you can then be ready to help him. :crosseo:

    http://www.saintignatiuschurch.org/timeline.html
     
  7. Llauralin

    Llauralin Senior Veteran

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    Hmm... the fellow sounds somewhat pedantic and confused. I wonder if he's really interested in discussing the issues he mentioned toward the end, or is just trying to send out a warning without offending anyone? I would probably ask his intention, were I her.
     
  8. joyfulthanks

    joyfulthanks The long day is over. Praise the Lord!

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    As to his denomination - some things he said make me think he might be Church of Christ (though they'll go apoplectic if you call them a denomination).
     
  9. katherine2001

    katherine2001 Veteran

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    I agree. That is why I hesitate to bring up subjects like the Eucharist and the Theotokos up on the GT board. Unless your heart and mind are open to the truth, it isn't going to do any good. Also, you have to be open to a God who isn't angry and vengeful that wants to nail all his and your enemies (that's not the real God, but I believed in that one for a long time).
     
  10. GBTWC

    GBTWC God bless the Working class

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    Phil 4:8 Finally, brothers, whatever things are true, whatever things are honest, whatever things are just, whatever things are pure, whatever things are lovely, whatever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.
     
  11. MariaRegina

    MariaRegina Well-Known Member

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    Amen, brother!

    Glory to Jesus Christ, Glory forever!
     
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