Left Wing Violence Increases--Armed Threats Force Pregnancy Center to Spend $150,000 for Security

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“Pregnancy care centers from coast to coast are being targeted for violent assaults of vandalism and hateful attacks online and in the media,” she told the senators. “Just last week, a man approached our care center with an armed machete.”
Armed Threat Forces California Pregnancy Center to Spend $150,000 on Security | National Review
The attacks on pregnancy centers and Catholic churches are coordinated--the Justice Department needs to create a task force to address violence from the left.
 
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Prolife groups have been doing this to places that perform abortions for decades. They reap what they sow. 40 years of attacks on abortion clinics, mapped
There have always been some individual crazies for almost all causes, but this is a systemic organized leftist movement, and we have officials who are looking the other way from the left wing violence that is engulfing our nation. People should be treated the same regardless of race or political beliefs. Assassinating Supreme Court justices and those who help women in need just because they have a different viewpoint or because of their religious beliefs is not the answer.
 
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“Pregnancy care centers from coast to coast are being targeted for violent assaults of vandalism and hateful attacks online and in the media,” she told the senators. “Just last week, a man approached our care center with an armed machete.”
Armed Threat Forces California Pregnancy Center to Spend $150,000 on Security | National Review

The director of the Center (which is a religious medical clinic) is associated with the Federalist Society. What she and her clinic is doing should be supported. Everyone wants to see abortion numbers fall. And if women have a viable option, then those options should be encouraged.

Unfortunately, she comes across as someone who is not pro choice. She comes across as someone who is determined to see abortion banned. She comes across as someone who wants to deny choice and to denigrate anyone who supports it. And she is using her position as a platform to do so.

And an armed machete?
 
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“Just last week, a man approached our care center with an armed machete.”

What's an armed machete? Is there an unarmed machete?

The attacks on pregnancy centers and Catholic churches are coordinated--the Justice Department needs to create a task force to address violence from the left.

Your dark imaginings with no basis in reality don't really constitute probable cause.
 
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A third of a generation was wiped out. Please stop the violence.

When abortion clinics are no longer targeted for violence from pro-life people, those entering them aren’t harassed for entering the building, and pro-life people stop the inflammatory language maybe the violence will stop. The pro-life side (you included) should consider that strategy.
 
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I guess the prevalence of such attacks would be an important thing to consider...

As another poster linked:
Since 1977 there have been eight murders, 17 attempted murders, 42 bombings, and 186 arsons targeted at abortion clinics and providers across the United States. In some cases, a small group of clinics have been targeted multiple times.

So, those are spanning a period of 45 years.

It's too early to tell which form (pro-choice extremism vs. pro-life extremism) is more pervasive or likely since the events being referred to in the OP are in response to a ruling that happened only weeks ago.

Now...
If a year from now, pro-choice extremist violence matches the kind of numbers it took pro-life extremists 45 years to rack up, then we can definitively say which side is worse (or more likely to act out in extreme ways), but as of right now, it's too early to tell.


The part of this I am perplexed by, is why this lashing out is happening in California (a state that has no intention of restricting abortion rights).

An "abortion alternative" facility in California is outnumbered by legal abortion clinics by a massive ratio, and poses no real threat to legal abortion in Cali.

It'd be like if there were radical pro-marijuana people (hypothetical obviously, I've never met a radical violent pro-marijuana activist lol) in a recreational legal marijuana state (where they already have the thing they want) choosing to vandalize the offices of a small, inconsequential, local organization that opposed it.

When the radical activism is "punching down" and not "punching up", it comes across as just trying to "make a statement" more than it does "fighting for a cause"
 
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When the radical activism is "punching down" and not "punching up", it comes across as just trying to "make a statement" more than it does "fighting for a cause"

And I think that exaggerating 'Radical activism' is just making a statement as well. The web site of the clinic in question is replete with words such as 'decision' and 'choice' and 'alternative'. What does that imply? Well, to me it implies that women have a choice to attend such a clinic and proceed with their pregnancy or not. Whereas the woman who runs it seems intent on denying them that option.
 
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And I think that exaggerating 'Radical activism' is just making a statement as well. The web site of the clinic in question is replate with words such as 'decision' and 'choice' and 'alternative'. What does that imply? Well, to me it implies that women have a choice to attend such a clinic and proceed with their abortion or not. Whereas the woman who runs it seems intent on denying them that option.

Right, but aren't there a lot of other options for people living in Cali?

If a particular facility wants to discourage abortion or even deny it, the fact that you can find another place in 5 mins that will do it makes the victimization angle a tough sell.

In the Cali environment, worst case scenario, you leave that clinic and find one that will do the thing you want, right?

I could maybe understand if we were talking about a state with a "heartbeat bill", but this is a place in California.

...and I don't think that "radical activism" is an exaggeration when we're talking about someone coming up with a machete because they're unhappy with ethical choices of the people who run the place (when there's other places around that will perform those services)

It'd basically be like if there were one bakery in San Fran that didn't want to do gay wedding cakes (when there are tons that will do it), and someone getting mad, and threatening them with a machete for it.

It resembles an attitude of "it's not good enough that I have the option, literally every one else has to agree with me and celebrate it as well otherwise I'm gonna get really mad and hurt people"
 
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...and I don't think that "radical activism" is an exaggeration when we're talking about someone coming up with a machete because they're unhappy with ethical choices of the people who run the place (when there's other places around that will perform those services).

And a loaded machete at that. What the woman's clinic does cannot be faulted. It gives women the choice as to whether they proceed with a pregnancy or not. But the woman herself has no interest in them actually having that choice.

It's hypocrisy.
 
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“Pregnancy care centers from coast to coast are being targeted for violent assaults of vandalism and hateful attacks online and in the media,” she told the senators. “Just last week, a man approached our care center with an armed machete.”
Armed Threat Forces California Pregnancy Center to Spend $150,000 on Security | National Review

It's really ironic that the pro abortion side has spoken so much about women's reproductive health care rights, but now they're attacking the very places that are providing women's reproductive health care now that abortion clinics are being closed. It seems very ironic. Do they actually want women to have places to seek reproductive health care or not?
 
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They reap what they sow.

The abortion mills certainly reaped what they sowed...

And the constant call from pro-life people that abortion is murder is inflammatory language that only an idiot would think would not radicalize people to get violent.

It is the talk about murder, or the murder itself?

The part of this I am perplexed by, is why this lashing out is happening in California (a state that has no intention of restricting abortion rights).

It's a temper tantrum over the end of Roe v. Wade. It's not about whatever acts of violence that may have been directed against abortion mills in the past, because that didn't shut those abortion mills down - decades of political action did.
 
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What's an armed machete?

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Is there an unarmed machete?

Sure....but that's harder to find a picture of.
 
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A third of a generation was wiped out. Please stop the violence.
If a generation was being wiped out, why would it be "crazy" to intervene like the people who attacked clinics did? If you really believe abortion is murder why wouldn’t you try and intervene at your local murder factory?
 
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It's really ironic that the pro abortion side has spoken so much about women's reproductive health care rights, but now they're attacking the very places that are providing women's reproductive health care now that abortion clinics are being closed. It seems very ironic. Do they actually want women to have places to seek reproductive health care or not?
What reproductive health care do they offer?
 
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Perhaps they figured that after 5 decades of marginalization they would be celebrated for being victorious over their oppressors?

And Americans will be celebrated as liberators after they start bombing Iraq and defeat Saddam Hussein, both completely irrational thought processes. You bring violence, violence will be brought to you is rational thought process.
 
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