Least Vaccinated States Lead Spike in Children’s Cases -- 30,000 went to hospital in 1 month

[Halbhh]

30,000 children into hospitals with Delta in August (just the 1 month alone).

That's before any spike from schools starting...

Least Vaccinated States Lead Spike in Children’s Cases, Leaving Some Hospitals Stretched
"Just as millions of families around the United States navigate sending their children back to school at an uncertain moment in the pandemic, the number of children admitted to the hospital with Covid-19 has risen to the highest levels reported to date. Nearly 30,000 of them entered hospitals in August.

Pediatric hospitalizations, driven by a record rise in coronavirus infections among children, have swelled across the country, overwhelming children’s hospitals and intensive care units in states like Louisiana and Texas."

Children remain markedly less likely than adults, especially older adults, to be hospitalized or die from Covid-19. But the growing number of children entering the hospital, however small compared with adults, should not be an afterthought, experts say, and should instead encourage communities to take on more efforts to protect their youngest residents.

“It should concern us all that hospitalizations — indicators of severe illness — are rising in the pediatric population, when there are a lot of steps we could take to prevent many of these hospitalizations,”
...

Least Vaccinated States Lead Spike in Children’s Cases, Leaving Some Hospitals Stretched

 

[RestoreTheJoy]

30,000 children into hospitals with Delta in August (just the 1 month alone).

That's before any spike from schools starting...

Least Vaccinated States Lead Spike in Children’s Cases, Leaving Some Hospitals Stretched
"Just as millions of families around the United States navigate sending their children back to school at an uncertain moment in the pandemic, the number of children admitted to the hospital with Covid-19 has risen to the highest levels reported to date. Nearly 30,000 of them entered hospitals in August.

Pediatric hospitalizations, driven by a record rise in coronavirus infections among children, have swelled across the country, overwhelming children’s hospitals and intensive care units in states like Louisiana and Texas."

Children remain markedly less likely than adults, especially older adults, to be hospitalized or die from Covid-19. But the growing number of children entering the hospital, however small compared with adults, should not be an afterthought, experts say, and should instead encourage communities to take on more efforts to protect their youngest residents.

“It should concern us all that hospitalizations — indicators of severe illness — are rising in the pediatric population, when there are a lot of steps we could take to prevent many of these hospitalizations,”
...

Least Vaccinated States Lead Spike in Children’s Cases, Leaving Some Hospitals Stretched

Hospitalizations are up across the board, with little difference depending on state.

"The research published Friday in the CDC's Morbidity and Mortality Report found that hospitalizations and emergency room visits for kids with Covid-19 increased from June to August of this year.

In the two week period in mid to late August, ER visits were 3.4 times higher in the states with the lowest vaccination rates and hospitalizations were 3.7 times higher than in states with the highest vaccination rates. The states with the lowest vaccination coverage were in the South.

More kids hospitalized with Covid-19 in states with lower vaccination rates, CDC report finds - CNN

Looking for numbers. Disappointing how much one has to wade through to find numbers.

"At selected hospitals, the proportion of COVID-19 patients aged 0–17 years who were admitted to an ICU ranged from 10% to 25% during August 2020–June 2021 and was 20% and 18% during July and August 2021, respectively."

...

"COVID-19 incidence among persons aged 0–4, 5–11, and 12–17 years during August 2020–August 2021 peaked in January 2021 at 21.2, 30.1, and 51.7 cases per 100,000 persons, respectively (Figure 1). Incidence declined in June 2021 to a low of 1.7, 1.9, and 2.9, respectively, across the three age groups; however, incidence in August 2021 among the three age groups reached 16.2, 28.5, and 32.7 per 100,000 persons, respectively."

So we are still lower than before in the big wave.

"The lowest vaccination coverage among persons aged ≥12 years (49.9%), highest percentage of COVID-19–associated ED visits (8.32), and highest COVID-19 hospital admission rates (0.84) were observed in HHS Region 4.§§§ In contrast, the highest vaccination coverage (72.2%), lowest COVID-19 incidence (13.3), and lowest rate of hospital admission (0.12) among persons aged 0–17 years were observed in HHS Region 1 (Supplementary Table, https://stacks.cdc.gov/view/cdc/109402).

In the BD Insights Research Database, 1,790 COVID-19 hospitalizations occurred among persons aged 0–17 years during August 1, 2020–August 21, 2021. Median length of stay ranged from 2 to 3 days during the entire period. The percentage of hospitalizations resulting in an ICU admission ranged from 10% to 25% during August 2020–June 2021; percentages were 20% and 18% in July and August 2021, respectively (Figure 2). The percentage of hospitalizations resulting in invasive mechanical ventilation ranged from 0% to 3% and was highest in October 2020; percentages in July and August 2021 were 2% and <1%, respectively. A total of eight in-hospital COVID-19–related deaths in persons aged 0–17 years occurred during August 2020–August 2021 (0.4% of hospitalized patients). Among 63 patients aged 0–17 years admitted to an ICU in July and August 2021, 17 (27%) were aged 0–4 years, 17 (27%) were 5–11 years, and 29 (46%) were 12–17 years."

Trends in COVID-19 Cases, Emergency Department Visits...

 

[ThatRobGuy]

It's unfortunate...

People who oppose vaccination, or are trying to portray covid as "no big deal for kids", have created this false dichotomy where they portray it as the outcomes either being "death" or "mild sniffles", and since the death rates are are infinitesimally low for people under 25, that doesn't mean the outcome for everyone else in that age group will be "mild sniffles"

My state of Ohio is a great example.

When you look at the morality rate of covid for that age group, it's next to nothing. There have been fewer than 40 deaths among people under 25 from the disease in my state. However, when you expand "negative effects" to look at hospitalizations, it tells a different story. There have been over 5,000 hospitalizations from covid among people < 25. Sure, most don't die, but it's safe to assume that if you're admitted to the hospital, you're having a pretty bad time.

It'd be kind of like saying "the risk of dying from severing your pinky with a saw is almost non-existent for a young healthy person...therefore, there's no risk of a 14 year old playing with the table saw"

 

[.Jeremiah.]

30,000 children into hospitals with Delta in August (just the 1 month alone).

That's before any spike from schools starting...

Least Vaccinated States Lead Spike in Children’s Cases, Leaving Some Hospitals Stretched
"Just as millions of families around the United States navigate sending their children back to school at an uncertain moment in the pandemic, the number of children admitted to the hospital with Covid-19 has risen to the highest levels reported to date. Nearly 30,000 of them entered hospitals in August.

Pediatric hospitalizations, driven by a record rise in coronavirus infections among children, have swelled across the country, overwhelming children’s hospitals and intensive care units in states like Louisiana and Texas."

Children remain markedly less likely than adults, especially older adults, to be hospitalized or die from Covid-19. But the growing number of children entering the hospital, however small compared with adults, should not be an afterthought, experts say, and should instead encourage communities to take on more efforts to protect their youngest residents.

“It should concern us all that hospitalizations — indicators of severe illness — are rising in the pediatric population, when there are a lot of steps we could take to prevent many of these hospitalizations,”
...

Least Vaccinated States Lead Spike in Children’s Cases, Leaving Some Hospitals Stretched

Not such wise leadership, abbott and desantis.

 

[RestoreTheJoy]

It's unfortunate...

People who oppose vaccination, or are trying to portray covid as "no big deal for kids", have created this false dichotomy where they portray it as the outcomes either being "death" or "mild sniffles", and since the death rates are are infinitesimally low for people under 25, that doesn't mean the outcome for everyone else in that age group will be "mild sniffles"

My state of Ohio is a great example.

When you look at the morality rate of covid for that age group, it's next to nothing. There have been fewer than 40 deaths among people under 25 from the disease in my state. However, when you expand "negative effects" to look at hospitalizations, it tells a different story. There have been over 5,000 hospitalizations from covid among people < 25. Sure, most don't die, but it's safe to assume that if you're admitted to the hospital, you're having a pretty bad time.

It'd be kind of like saying "the risk of dying from severing your pinky with a saw is almost non-existent for a young healthy person...therefore, there's no risk of a 14 year old playing with the table saw"

Bad analogy. No one wants to risk serious infection or even serious pain (or huge bills) by playing with machinery that could cut off a finger. Therefore it is wise to stop that from happening, no matter who you are.

 

[Halbhh]

Hospitalizations are up across the board, with little difference depending on state.

"The research published Friday in the CDC's Morbidity and Mortality Report found that hospitalizations and emergency room visits for kids with Covid-19 increased from June to August of this year.

In the two week period in mid to late August, ER visits were 3.4 times higher in the states with the lowest vaccination rates and hospitalizations were 3.7 times higher than in states with the highest vaccination rates. The states with the lowest vaccination coverage were in the South.

More kids hospitalized with Covid-19 in states with lower vaccination rates, CDC report finds - CNN

Looking for numbers. Disappointing how much one has to wade through to find numbers.

"At selected hospitals, the proportion of COVID-19 patients aged 0–17 years who were admitted to an ICU ranged from 10% to 25% during August 2020–June 2021 and was 20% and 18% during July and August 2021, respectively."

...

"COVID-19 incidence among persons aged 0–4, 5–11, and 12–17 years during August 2020–August 2021 peaked in January 2021 at 21.2, 30.1, and 51.7 cases per 100,000 persons, respectively (Figure 1). Incidence declined in June 2021 to a low of 1.7, 1.9, and 2.9, respectively, across the three age groups; however, incidence in August 2021 among the three age groups reached 16.2, 28.5, and 32.7 per 100,000 persons, respectively."

So we are still lower than before in the big wave.

"The lowest vaccination coverage among persons aged ≥12 years (49.9%), highest percentage of COVID-19–associated ED visits (8.32), and highest COVID-19 hospital admission rates (0.84) were observed in HHS Region 4.§§§ In contrast, the highest vaccination coverage (72.2%), lowest COVID-19 incidence (13.3), and lowest rate of hospital admission (0.12) among persons aged 0–17 years were observed in HHS Region 1 (Supplementary Table, https://stacks.cdc.gov/view/cdc/109402).

In the BD Insights Research Database, 1,790 COVID-19 hospitalizations occurred among persons aged 0–17 years during August 1, 2020–August 21, 2021. Median length of stay ranged from 2 to 3 days during the entire period. The percentage of hospitalizations resulting in an ICU admission ranged from 10% to 25% during August 2020–June 2021; percentages were 20% and 18% in July and August 2021, respectively (Figure 2). The percentage of hospitalizations resulting in invasive mechanical ventilation ranged from 0% to 3% and was highest in October 2020; percentages in July and August 2021 were 2% and <1%, respectively. A total of eight in-hospital COVID-19–related deaths in persons aged 0–17 years occurred during August 2020–August 2021 (0.4% of hospitalized patients). Among 63 patients aged 0–17 years admitted to an ICU in July and August 2021, 17 (27%) were aged 0–4 years, 17 (27%) were 5–11 years, and 29 (46%) were 12–17 years."

Trends in COVID-19 Cases, Emergency Department Visits...

Yes, I noticed you highlighting in purple specific numbers to agree with and show what is quoted in the OP -->

Children remain markedly less likely than adults, especially older adults, to be hospitalized or die from Covid-19.

It is good to see a number under 100 (of course!), but of course it's still very early to actually know any particular number as a final number for even August infections!

Right? After all, it usually takes weeks for someone to die from Covid that will die from Covid ( i.e. " The estimated mean time between diagnosis and death was 18.1 days" -- Estimating age-specific COVID-19 fatality risk and time to death by comparing population diagnosis and death patterns: Australian data | BMC Medical Research Methodology | Full Text)
So, since 18 days is only the mean (average), then of course...a longer time like 25 days is needed to even begin to have any kind of number that is meaningful, for August.

Meaning that we definitely cannot yet know how many under 18 will die from Delta even from infections in the last week of August for instance, when the numbers were mounting.


Because it's not been long enough to find out.

 

[Halbhh]

I have a question for you..

You wrote: "Hospitalizations are up across the board, with little difference depending on state."

But, just as you then quoted from your link:

"hospitalizations were 3.7 times higher than in states with the highest vaccination rates." (bolding yours)

That's quite a difference among states.

So, as you showed in your quote, your initial sentence is mistaken of course. Did you intend to say something different there?

Hospitalizations are up across the board, with little difference depending on state.

"The research published Friday in the CDC's Morbidity and Mortality Report found that hospitalizations and emergency room visits for kids with Covid-19 increased from June to August of this year.

In the two week period in mid to late August, ER visits were 3.4 times higher in the states with the lowest vaccination rates and hospitalizations were 3.7 times higher than in states with the highest vaccination rates. The states with the lowest vaccination coverage were in the South.

More kids hospitalized with Covid-19 in states with lower vaccination rates, CDC report finds - CNN

Looking for numbers. Disappointing how much one has to wade through to find numbers.

"At selected hospitals, the proportion of COVID-19 patients aged 0–17 years who were admitted to an ICU ranged from 10% to 25% during August 2020–June 2021 and was 20% and 18% during July and August 2021, respectively."

...

"COVID-19 incidence among persons aged 0–4, 5–11, and 12–17 years during August 2020–August 2021 peaked in January 2021 at 21.2, 30.1, and 51.7 cases per 100,000 persons, respectively (Figure 1). Incidence declined in June 2021 to a low of 1.7, 1.9, and 2.9, respectively, across the three age groups; however, incidence in August 2021 among the three age groups reached 16.2, 28.5, and 32.7 per 100,000 persons, respectively."

So we are still lower than before in the big wave.

"The lowest vaccination coverage among persons aged ≥12 years (49.9%), highest percentage of COVID-19–associated ED visits (8.32), and highest COVID-19 hospital admission rates (0.84) were observed in HHS Region 4.§§§ In contrast, the highest vaccination coverage (72.2%), lowest COVID-19 incidence (13.3), and lowest rate of hospital admission (0.12) among persons aged 0–17 years were observed in HHS Region 1 (Supplementary Table, https://stacks.cdc.gov/view/cdc/109402).

In the BD Insights Research Database, 1,790 COVID-19 hospitalizations occurred among persons aged 0–17 years during August 1, 2020–August 21, 2021. Median length of stay ranged from 2 to 3 days during the entire period. The percentage of hospitalizations resulting in an ICU admission ranged from 10% to 25% during August 2020–June 2021; percentages were 20% and 18% in July and August 2021, respectively (Figure 2). The percentage of hospitalizations resulting in invasive mechanical ventilation ranged from 0% to 3% and was highest in October 2020; percentages in July and August 2021 were 2% and <1%, respectively. A total of eight in-hospital COVID-19–related deaths in persons aged 0–17 years occurred during August 2020–August 2021 (0.4% of hospitalized patients). Among 63 patients aged 0–17 years admitted to an ICU in July and August 2021, 17 (27%) were aged 0–4 years, 17 (27%) were 5–11 years, and 29 (46%) were 12–17 years."

Trends in COVID-19 Cases, Emergency Department Visits...

 

[.Jeremiah.]

It's unfortunate...

People who oppose vaccination, or are trying to portray covid as "no big deal for kids", have created this false dichotomy where they portray it as the outcomes either being "death" or "mild sniffles", and since the death rates are are infinitesimally low for people under 25, that doesn't mean the outcome for everyone else in that age group will be "mild sniffles"

My state of Ohio is a great example.

When you look at the morality rate of covid for that age group, it's next to nothing. There have been fewer than 40 deaths among people under 25 from the disease in my state. However, when you expand "negative effects" to look at hospitalizations, it tells a different story. There have been over 5,000 hospitalizations from covid among people < 25. Sure, most don't die, but it's safe to assume that if you're admitted to the hospital, you're having a pretty bad time.

It'd be kind of like saying "the risk of dying from severing your pinky with a saw is almost non-existent for a young healthy person...therefore, there's no risk of a 14 year old playing with the table saw"

In addition to your very correct assertions, the 5000 who are hospitalized may possibly prevent others, with a need for a hospital bed, to be put on the back burner, so to speak.

 

[ThatRobGuy]

Bad analogy. No one wants to risk serious infection or even serious pain (or huge bills) by playing with machinery that could cut off a finger. Therefore it is wise to stop that from happening, no matter who you are.

It's not a bad analogy... nobody should want to risk serious effects on hospitalizations from a respiratory virus either. (as that comes with the same kinds of bills and potential for long-term negative impacts)

The narrative being spun by those who wish to assert that "Covid is no big deal if you're under 30" is that anyone under 30 who catches it isn't going to experience anything worse than what they would with a common cold. That's a falsehood.

It is going to be worse, and in many cases, worse enough that it'll lead to hospitalizations.

The hospitalization rate for covid is 49.7 per 100,000 for children and adolescents.

You look at people in their 20's and 30's, it goes much higher than that.

 

[RestoreTheJoy]

It's not a bad analogy... nobody should want to risk serious effects on hospitalizations from a respiratory virus either. (as that comes with the same kinds of bills and potential for long-term negative impacts)

The narrative being spun by those who wish to assert that "Covid is no big deal if you're under 30" is that anyone under 30 who catches it isn't going to experience anything worse than what they would with a common cold. That's a falsehood.

It is going to be worse, and in many cases, worse enough that it'll lead to hospitalizations.

The hospitalization rate for covid is 49.7 per 100,000 for children and adolescents.

You look at people in their 20's and 30's, it goes much higher than that.

Right, but you are assuming in your analogy that getting the vaccine is confers the same protection from harm as not going near a machine that can remove a finger offers for finger-preservation. It's not. You can still get or spread the vaccine. And some have been harmed by the vaccine itself.

Still a bad analogy.

 

[RestoreTheJoy]

I have a question for you..

You wrote: "Hospitalizations are up across the board, with little difference depending on state."

But, just as you then quoted from your link:

"hospitalizations were 3.7 times higher than in states with the highest vaccination rates." (bolding yours)

That's quite a difference among states.

So, as you showed in your quote, your initial sentence is mistaken of course. Did you intend to say something different there?

Again, look at the numbers not the (x times higher) obfuscation.

 

[pitabread]

Again, look at the numbers not the (x times higher) obfuscation.

How is looking at relative rates out an outcome obfuscation?

 

[Halbhh]

Again, look at the numbers not the (x times higher) obfuscation.

That's not really unclear. It's a clear helpful fact. There are even more clear facts today.

For example:

Three studies that drew data from different U.S. regions evaluated the protective power of the vaccines. One looked at more than 600,000 virus cases in 13 states, representing about one quarter of the U.S. population, between April and July, and concluded that individuals who were not fully vaccinated were far more susceptible to infection and death from the virus.

They were 4.5 times more likely than vaccinated individuals to become infected, 10 times more likely to be hospitalized, and 11 times more likely to die from the coronavirus, the study found.
Covid Live Updates: F.D.A. Warns Parents Against Getting Children Under 12 Vaccinated

 

[loveofourlord]

Again, look at the numbers not the (x times higher) obfuscation.

What do you even mean there? If you look at the %'s the unvacinated are far more often sick then the vaccinated even though in most states they are the minority.

 

[RestoreTheJoy]

That's not really unclear. It's a clear helpful fact. There are even more clear facts today.

For example:

Three studies that drew data from different U.S. regions evaluated the protective power of the vaccines. One looked at more than 600,000 virus cases in 13 states, representing about one quarter of the U.S. population, between April and July, and concluded that individuals who were not fully vaccinated were far more susceptible to infection and death from the virus.

They were 4.5 times more likely than vaccinated individuals to become infected, 10 times more likely to be hospitalized, and 11 times more likely to die from the coronavirus, the study found.
Covid Live Updates: F.D.A. Warns Parents Against Getting Children Under 12 Vaccinated

But look at the numbers. Millions are already immune - either they never got it at all, despite being exposed, or they got it and recovered. Millions of others took the vaccine, for whatever protection that actually provides.

There is a small percentage who are vulnerable, who are not in any of the the above camps. That's always the case with any disease.

 

[pitabread]

Millions are already immune - either they never got it at all, despite being exposed

That doesn't necessarily mean a person is immune to the disease. Exposure by itself doesn't guarantee transmission.

 

[Halbhh]

But look at the numbers. Millions are already immune - either they never got it at all, despite being exposed, or they got it and recovered. Millions of others took the vaccine, for whatever protection that actually provides.

There is a small percentage who are vulnerable, who are not in any of the the above camps. That's always the case with any disease.

That's true. Following Matthew 7:12, I tell people the helpful point that masks reduce viral exposure enough to matter, helping make covid less severe.

 

[ThatRobGuy]

Right, but you are assuming in your analogy that getting the vaccine is confers the same protection from harm as not going near a machine that can remove a finger offers for finger-preservation. It's not. You can still get or spread the vaccine. And some have been harmed by the vaccine itself.

No vaccine is 100%... you can still get or spread the virus, but the odds of the that most-upstream event is lessened with vaccination, and if you do catch it after vaccination, the case severity is drastically reduced.

It's still a net positive.

With regards to some people being harmed by the vaccine itself...that's true, that'll be true for every medical intervention.

Prudent risk assessment is key here.

There are those rare cases where there's a specific type of car accident occurs, and a person is killed by their seatbelt (who would've otherwise been ejected and maybe survived during the accident).

That doesn't mean avoiding seatbelts is the "vegas odds" betting favorite in terms of which approach is going to keep the biggest number of people safer in a car accident.

For instance, 500 people in the US die every year from reactions to penicillin. That doesn't mean that "penicillin avoidance" is the most prudent approach if one is faced with a severe bacterial infection.

 

[RestoreTheJoy]

That's true. Following Matthew 7:12, I tell people the helpful point that masks reduce viral exposure enough to matter, helping make covid less severe.

Still wearing a mask here. It seems wise, since I am around a vulnerable person. I don't need the government to mandate it.

The problem is and always will be mandates, not doing things that we wish to do or decide are best for us.

 

[RestoreTheJoy]

No vaccine is 100%... you can still get or spread the virus, but the odds of the that most-upstream event is lessened with vaccination, and if you do catch it after vaccination, the case severity is drastically reduced.

It's still a net positive.

With regards to some people being harmed by the vaccine itself...that's true, that'll be true for every medical intervention.

Prudent risk assessment is key here.

There are those rare cases where there's a specific type of car accident occurs, and a person is killed by their seatbelt (who would've otherwise been ejected and maybe survived during the accident).

That doesn't mean avoiding seatbelts is the "vegas odds" betting favorite in terms of which approach is going to keep the biggest number of people safer in a car accident.

For instance, 500 people in the US die every year from reactions to penicillin. That doesn't mean that "penicillin avoidance" is the most prudent approach if one is faced with a severe bacterial infection.

Odds are, the companies producing it are arguing. But your individual odds are unknown. You may be fine. You may have heart issues, as thousands did. Or neurological issues. You may go into anaphylactic shock.

Where there is risk, there must be completely free choice. Most older people did choose to do so, given their risks, determined in conjunction with their doctors, for them. Medicine is NOT one-size-fits all.