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Discussion in 'Eschatology - Endtimes & Prophecy Forum' started by keras, Feb 21, 2018.

  1. keras

    keras Writer of Bible prophecy studies.

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    Habakkuk 2:1-3 I will stand on the ramparts and learn what the Lord is saying to us. The Lord says: Write this down and make it clear for all to see; The fulfilment awaits the appointed time, it speaks of the time of the end and will not prove false. Though it delays, wait for it, it will surely come before too long.

    Bible prophecy does tell us what will happen ‘at the appointed time’. James 5:7-11 and it speaks to us about the time of the end of the 6000 years of mankinds rule.


    Habakkuk 2:4 The reckless will lack an assured future, while the righteous will live by being faithful.
    Those who follow their own lusts and desires will ‘lack an assured future’, that is they may survive the forthcoming fire judgement, but must face the Tribulation. On the other hand, the righteous will live under the care and protection of the Lord. Galatians 3:11


    Habakkuk 2:5-7 As for the person who is proud, arrogant and treacherous; they will not win in the end, because they are as greedy as the grave. The nations and peoples follow in this error, but surely they will face ridicule and those who have ill-gotten gains will be scorned. Their debtors will suddenly rise up and the creditors will become victims, instead.
    The proud and arrogant people will be brought low. Psalms 5:5-6 While the godless face insecurity, those who discern the times and study the prophetic Word, will maintain their faith and live in quiet trust for a blessed future. Isaiah 30:15

    Habakkuk 2:8-19 Those who have shed blood and inflicted violence to cities and have plundered nations, now, the rest of the world will plunder you.

    Woe betide those who seek unjust gain, their schemes will bring dishonor and put their lives at risk.

    Woe betide those who build their lives on crime and lies. Those nations labor for a pittance and their peoples exhaust themselves for nothing.

    Woe betide those who make others drink the outpouring of God’s wrath, they will be filled with shame when it is their turn to face judgement.

    Woe to those who seek guidance from idols or divinators, they are useless and of no value. Reference: REB, NIV. Some verses abridged.

    The ‘cup of God’s wrath’, is symbolic of His anger. Jeremiah 25:15-29 It will be poured out upon all of the people mentioned in Isaiah 2:12-21, Isaiah 13:9-15, Rev. 6:12-17, on the Great and terrible Day of the Lord’s vengeance and wrath, a judgement of fire, that will affect all the world. Huge numbers will be killed, Jeremiah 9:22, Isaiah 66:15-17 and the survivors will slowly recover, then form a One World government. Meanwhile, those who have kept their faith and trust in the Lord, will be motivated to emigrate to the Holy Land, where they will settle and live peace and prosperity. Amos 9:13-15, Isaiah 35

    Habakkuk 2:20 The Lord is in His Holy Temple, let all the earth be silent in His presence. Psalms 11:4-6

    The Shekinah Glory will return to the new Temple, in Jerusalem. Ezekiel 43:1-6 Then, some years later, Jesus Returns to reign for 1000 years.
     
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    No man with a memory, does not offer Jesus a place of His Own - therein lies the Judgment: which place do you give Him? Earth or in Future?
     
  3. Tolworth John

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    Who is this address to?

    Habakkuk was complaining to God about the ungodly behaviour and recieved a warning about how God would deal with the ungodly.

    Here is a thought.

    How Godly is our corporate behaviour? Do we while at work act in a God honourinr way, respecting the poor and vunerable.
    Are the trade agreements with third world countries really fair?
    Are the employment contracts of employees fair?

    Just who is exploiting who?
     
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  4. keras

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    It speaks of the time of the end.......to happen at the Appointed time. Psalms 102:12-13

    Isaiah 60:21-22 The Lord's people, all of them righteous, will possess the holy Land forever. They will become many, a great nation. At the Appointed time, I shall bring this to pass.
     
  5. Tolworth John

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    Do you think the end times are listening?
     
  6. keras

    keras Writer of Bible prophecy studies.

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    Of the time of the end, not to.
    You must have some interest in what God has planned for our future to be here.
    God has given us a lot of information about His plans in our Bibles. Being flippant about it isn't sensible, we should take care to not be deceived, as Jesus said and we can know and be prepared for what must happen before Jesus Returns.
     
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  7. keras

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    Isaiah 8:5-8 The Lord says: Because this nation [Judah] has rejected the gentle water of Shiloh, [Isaiah 5:24: the Laws and Covenant of God] then I will bring against them a flood. They will sweep through Judah and conquer the whole Land.
    This was fulfilled by the Babylonian and the Roman captivities. Isaiah 5:13, 2 Kings 17:18-20. But Ezekiel 21:14 says there will be: 3 swings of the Sword against Judah.

    Isaiah 8:9-10 Take note, you nations, you too will be shattered. Listen you distant peoples of the earth, prepare yourselves , devise your plans, but they will not be carried out, for the Lord is with His people. Micah 4:11-12

    Isaiah 8:11-15 The Lord told me not to follow the ways of this people, not to agree to any alliance or treaty that they agree to or to fear what they fear. Isaiah 28:14-15 The Lord is the One that you must regard with fear and awe, He is the One you must hold sacred. But for the House of Israel and the House of Judah, He will be as a stone that causes people to trip and for the people of Jerusalem, He will be as a trap, that makes many fall and suffer. Zechariah 12:3

    Isaiah 8:16 Bind up the message, seal the instruction, so that it cannot be consulted by My disciples. 2 Timothy 4:3-4, Isaiah 29:11

    Isaiah 8:17-18 I shall wait eagerly for the Lord, who is hiding His face from Israel, I shall put my trust in Him. Here we are: all children of our Lordwe are the signs and symbols of Israel, the Lords true, righteous people, You dwell on Mt Zion.

    Isaiah 8:19-22 Others will suggest that you consult mediums and spiritualists, who whisper and mutter, but why ask the dead for instruction, when what they say brings no light? So despondency and fear will come over those people, in their futile search for the truth, they will rebel against their rulers and their gods. Wherever they look, all is gloom and darkness and there will be no escape for them. Hosea 4:12, Jeremiah 29:8-9, Isaiah 66:17

    Isaiah 33:13-16 You dwellers afar off, hear what I have done, acknowledge My might, you that are near at hand. The godless sinners in Zion will quake with terror, with trembling they ask: Can any of us live with a devouring fire, in perpetual flames?
    The people who behave uprightly and speak the truth, who scorn to enrich themselves by extortion or bribery. Those who keep their ears and eyes from evil, it is these people who will dwell in safety, with their food assured and water never failing them. No one living there will say; I am sick and the sins of the people who live in the Land will be pardoned. Isaiah 44:22, Psalms 103:1-5, Ezekiel 37:20-27 Reference: REB some verses abridged

    Listen you distant peoples, the plans and preparations of the ungodly peoples, to occupy all of the Holy Land and wipe Israel off the map, will not prevail. Psalms 83:1-18, Micah 4:11-12

    you dwellers afar off: Our situation now; Christians scattered around the world. 1 Peter 1:1

    Here we are: all children of the Lord; Romans 9:24-26. True Christian believers are now the Israelites of God, those from every tribe, race, nation and language are the Lords holy people. Galatians 3:26-29, Romans 9:6-8, Revelation 5:9-10

    it is these people who will dwell in safety and prosperity: Soon after the Lord’s Day of fiery wrath, that will clear and cleanse all the holy Land, the call will go out to all the people who stood firm in their faith, Zechariah 10:8-12, to gather and live there, Hosea 2:14-23, Jeremiah 31:8-9, as God always intended His Israelite, now: the Christian peoples to be His witnesses and a light to the nations. Isaiah 42:6, Isaiah 43:10

    Bind up the message, seal the instruction, so it cannot be consulted by My disciples. Deuteronomy 29:4, Isaiah 29:11

    It is no wonder that the Christian church cannot sort out or properly understand prophecy. The Lord actually does not want most people to know His plans, however the prophetic Word has been given to us Christians for a reason and for those who genuinely apply themselves, putting aside all preconceived notions and false teaching; then it is possible to discern our future. Daniel 12:4-10, Hosea 12:10, 2 Peter 1:19
     
  8. Truth7t7

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    Shekinah glory ain't returning, you gonna sew the veil in the Holy place, your to late Jesus did away with the Holy of holies.

    The veil is torn from the top to the bottom, no tailors are for hire.

    Matthew 27:50-51KJV
    50 Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost.
    51 And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent;
     
  9. Tolworth John

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    I quoted you accurately, so if it is flippent its because you are unclear in what you are saying.

    Am I interested in the end times yes.

    Do I know what will happen. Yes, Jesus will return.
    Do I need to know more. No.
    Why, because once anyone starts searching the end times/2nd coming they start preparing lists of events and timetables before finaly saying the date will be...

    My childhood was spent listening to people convinced they knew 'the signs of the times'. They didn't.

    To be frank just as they were wrong, so you will be wrong, because while we are to be looking, no one knows when Jesus will return.
     
  10. keras

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    Listen to Me, you coasts and islands, pay heed, you peoples far distant.
    The Lord called and named me before I was born. He made me His spokesman. My reward is to be with God.
    Isaiah 49:3-6The Lord said: Israel, you are My servants, through whom I shall win glory. My [Isaiah’s] task is to bring back Jacob to the Lord, that Israel would be gathered again to God. Is it too simple a task for you, to restore the 12 tribes of Jacob and bring back the survivors of Israel? They will be a light to the nations, so that My salvation may reach to the ends of the earth.

    Isaiah 49:7-8 The Redeemer and Holy One of Israel says: You were once despised and in subjection, but the Lord has chosen you and kings will honour you. In the time of My favour, I will answer you and will help you on the Day of Deliverance. I have formed you and destined you to be a light for the peoples, restoring the Land and living once more in its desolate places.

    Isaiah 49:9-11 I say to the captives: go free – to those in darkness: come out. Everywhere there will be pasture, water in plenty. It will not be too hot, for the One who loves them will guide them along highways and level paths.

    Isaiah 49:12-13 They are coming – some from far away, the North, West and the lands of the South. Shout for joy, you heavens, earth rejoice, burst into song you mountains. For the Lord has comforted His people and has compassion on them in their distress. Reference: REB, NIV, KJV. Verses abridged.


    pay heed you peoples far distant…. Jacob, the 12 tribes of Israel, plus everyone grafted in by reason of faith and righteousness, still scattered around the world. Part of Judah have now returned to part of the Land.

    Almost all of the Book of Isaiah, relates to the restoration of the Israelites to the Promised Land. They are destined to be a light to the nations and spread the gospel around the world. The Lord will answer their prayers for help on the Day of deliverance, which is the same Day as the terrible Day of the Lord’s vengeance and wrath. Isaiah 30:26, Isaiah 63:4, Zechariah 9:14-17.

    There is the issue of the ten lost tribes, but all of that is irrelevant in the light of New Testament teaching, Ephesians 2:11-15 and many other verses; making it plain that ethnicity has no bearing on who is an Israelite of God. Faith and obedience is the only criteria.

    Then, His people, Christian Israelites, will settle in all of the holy Land. Genesis 15:18-21. They will live there in safety and prosperity. Ezekiel 34:11-31, Hosea 2:14-23.

    so that My salvation may reach the ends of the earth’. This will be achieved by the 144,000- 12,000 selected from each tribe, who will go out in pairs to preach the Gospel of the coming Kingdom of Jesus. Verse 3; ‘My servants, through whom I shall win glory.’ Isaiah 66:19, Rev 14:1-7

    It will not be too hot and the Lord will guide you along highways..... This is a reference to the fire and extreme heat of the Lord's Day of wrath, the literal day of fire, earthquakes, storms and tsunamis, that precedes this gathering of His people. Read Isaiah 35:1-10

    No mention is made of the Millennium reign of Jesus, therefore this restoration of Israel is before that event. This is in order for His people, Christian Israel to fulfil their destiny, to fulfil the promises made to the Patriarchs, and to prepare for the Return of Jesus. It is them who say: Blessed is He who comes in the Name of the Lord..
    Ref; logostelos.info
     
  11. Truth7t7

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    It appears you are preparing for the walk on Christ, Aka "Antichrist"?

    Jesus warned the Church against the false teaching that he would be found on earth in a physical body.

    "Believe It Not"!

    Matthew 24:23-27KJV
    23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
    24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
    25 Behold, I have told you before.
    26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
    27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
     
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    3 Then shall the Lord go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.

    4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.

    When Jesus returns HIS physical body will be on the Earth

    9 And the Lord shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one Lord, and his name one.

    10 All the land shall be turned as a plain from Geba to Rimmon south of Jerusalem: and it shall be lifted up, and inhabited in her place, from Benjamin's gate unto the place of the first gate, unto the corner gate, and from the tower of Hananeel unto the king's winepresses.

    11 And men shall dwell in it, and there shall be no more utter destruction; but Jerusalem shall be safely
    inhabited.

    Jesus on earth and Jerusalem shall be safely inhabited
     
  13. Truth7t7

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    Your absolutely correct, Jesus will return to the Mt. of Olives, 100% A fact!

    However you don't want to see the last day judgment by fire, or the eternal river of Life and eternal light in the eternal kingdom presented below.

    1. Verse 1 we see "The Day Of The Lord" has come, does the bible tell us of this day in other passages of scripture?

    2. Verses 2-4 We see the nations of the world gathered to a battle as Jesus returns to earth, looks like the final battle of Armageddon.

    3. Verse 5 we see a mountain split, humans fleeing to the mountains, Jesus returning with the host of heaven. Revelation 6:12-17

    5. We see physical changes, a plain is lifted up, in verse 4 we see Mt. Olives split?

    6. Verse 6-7 We see eternal light Revelation 22:1-5

    7. Verse 8 we see the eternal river of life. Revelation 22:1-5

    8. Verse 10 we see the New Heaven And Earth being revealed.

    9. Verse 12 we see a recap of the Lord's final judgment by fire at his return, as human bodies are "dissolved" 2 Peter 3:10-13, Luke 17:29-30

    Zechariah 14:1-12KJV
    14 Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.
    2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
    3 Then shall the Lord go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.
    4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.
    5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the Lord my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.
    6 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the light shall not be clear, nor dark:
    7 But it shall be one day which shall be known to the Lord, not day, nor night: but it shall come to pass, that at evening time it shall be light.
    8 And it shall be in that day, that living waters shall go out from Jerusalem; half of them toward the former sea, and half of them toward the hinder sea: in summer and in winter shall it be.
    9 And the Lord shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one Lord, and his name one.
    10 All the land shall be turned as a plain from Geba to Rimmon south of Jerusalem: and it shall be lifted up, and inhabited in her place, from Benjamin's gate unto the place of the first gate, unto the corner gate, and from the tower of Hananeel unto the king's winepresses.
    11 And men shall dwell in it, and there shall be no more utter destruction; but Jerusalem shall be safely inhabited.
    12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.
     
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    "The Day Of The Lord"

    This day is seen in Zechariah 14:1 & 2 Peter 3:10, perhaps you need to study the events of this "Last Day"

    Zechariah 14:1
    Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.

    Isaiah 2:12
    For the day of the Lord of hosts shall be upon every one that is proud and lofty, and upon every one that is lifted up; and he shall be brought low:
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    Isaiah 13:6
    Howl ye; for the day of the Lord is at hand; it shall come as a destruction from the Almighty.
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    Isaiah 13:9
    Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, cruel both with wrath and fierce anger, to lay the land desolate: and he shall destroy the sinners thereof out of it.
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    Isaiah 34:8
    For it is the day of the Lord's vengeance, and the year of recompences for the controversy of Zion.
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    Jeremiah 46:10
    For this is the day of the Lord God of hosts, a day of vengeance, that he may avenge him of his adversaries: and the sword shall devour, and it shall be satiate and made drunk with their blood: for the Lord God of hosts hath a sacrifice in the north country by the river Euphrates.
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    Lamentations 2:22
    Thou hast called as in a solemn day my terrors round about, so that in the day of theLord's anger none escaped nor remained: those that I have swaddled and brought up hath mine enemy consumed.
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    Ezekiel 13:5
    Ye have not gone up into the gaps, neither made up the hedge for the house of Israel to stand in the battle in the day of the Lord.
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    Ezekiel 30:3
    For the day is near, even the day of the Lord is near, a cloudy day; it shall be the time of the heathen.
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    Joel 1:15
    Alas for the day! for the day of the Lord is at hand, and as a destruction from the Almighty shall it come.
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    Joel 2:1
    Blow ye the trumpet in Zion, and sound an alarm in my holy mountain: let all the inhabitants of the land tremble: for the day ofthe Lord cometh, for it is nigh at hand;
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    Joel 2:11
    And the Lord shall utter his voice before his army: for his camp is very great: for he is strong that executeth his word: for the day ofthe Lord is great and very terrible; and who can abide it?
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    Joel 2:31
    The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and terrible day of the Lord come.
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    Joel 3:14
    Multitudes, multitudes in the valley of decision: for the day of the Lord is near in the valley of decision.
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    Amos 5:18
    Woe unto you that desire the day of theLord! to what end is it for you? the day of theLord is darkness, and not light.
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    Amos 5:20
    Shall not the day of the Lord be darkness, and not light? even very dark, and no brightness in it?
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    Obadiah 1:15
    For the day of the Lord is near upon all the heathen: as thou hast done, it shall be done unto thee: thy reward shall return upon thine own head.
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    Zephaniah 1:7
    Hold thy peace at the presence of the Lord God: for the day of the Lord is at hand: for the Lord hath prepared a sacrifice, he hath bid his guests.
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    Zephaniah 1:8
    And it shall come to pass in the day of theLord's sacrifice, that I will punish the princes, and the king's children, and all such as are clothed with strange apparel.
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    Zephaniah 1:14
    The great day of the Lord is near, it is near, and hasteth greatly, even the voice of the dayof the Lord: the mighty man shall cry there bitterly.
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    Zephaniah 1:18
    Neither their silver nor their gold shall be able to deliver them in the day of the Lord's wrath; but the whole land shall be devoured by the fire of his jealousy: for he shall make even a speedy riddance of all them that dwell in the land.
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    Zephaniah 2:2
    Before the decree bring forth, before the day pass as the chaff, before the fierce anger of the Lord come upon you, before the day ofthe Lord's anger come upon you.
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    Zephaniah 2:3
    Seek ye the Lord, all ye meek of the earth, which have wrought his judgment; seek righteousness, seek meekness: it may be ye shall be hid in the day of the Lord's anger.
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    Zechariah 14:1
    Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.
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    Malachi 4:5
    Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord:
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    Acts 2:20
    The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and notable day of the Lord come:
    1 Corinthians 5:5
    To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.
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    2 Corinthians 1:14
    As also ye have acknowledged us in part, that we are your rejoicing, even as ye also are our's in the day of the Lord Jesus.
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    1 Thessalonians 5:2
    For yourselves know perfectly that the day ofthe Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.
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    2 Peter 3:10
    But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
     
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    You disregard the truth of scripture below, as if it does not exist, why?

    Many teach in error Jesus returns to earth to start a 1000 year millennial kingdom, with mortal humans present?

    Scripture teaches below, Jesus returns in fire and final judgment, dissolving this present earth, as the New Heavens and Earth are revealed.

    "Eternity Begins"!

    "ALL THE SAME EVENT BELOW"

    Isaiah 66:15-16KJV
    15 For, behold, the Lord will come with fire, and with his chariots like a whirlwind, to render his anger with fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire.
    16 For by fire and by his sword will the Lord plead with all flesh: and the slain of the Lord shall be many.

    2 Peter 3:10-13KJV
    10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
    11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
    12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
    13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

    2 Thessalonians 1:7-8KJV
    7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
    8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:

    Luke 17:29-30KJV
    29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
    30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.

    Malachi 3:2KJV
    2 But who may abide the day of his coming? and who shall stand when he appeareth? for he is like a refiner's fire, and like fullers' soap:

    Zechariah 14:12KJV
    12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.

    1 Corinthians 3:13KJV
    13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.

    2 Timothy 4:1KJV
    I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;

    Revelation 21:1-2KJV
    21 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
    2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.

    As scripture "Clearly Teaches" this existing Heaven and Earth will be dissolved by the Lord's fire in final judgment at his appearing/return.

    Jesus Christ Is Lord

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  16. seventysevens

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    8 And it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith the Lord, two parts therein shall be cut off and die; but the third shall be left therein.

    9 And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The Lord is my God.

    Zech_14
    3 Then shall the Lord go forth, and fight against
    those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.

    4
    And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.

    When Jesus returns HIS physical body will be on the Earth

    9 And the Lord shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one Lord, and his name one.

    10
    All the land shall be turned as a plain from Geba to Rimmon south of Jerusalem: and it shall be lifted up, and inhabited in her place, from Benjamin's gate unto the place of the first gate, unto the corner gate, and from the tower of Hananeel unto the king's winepresses.

    11 And men shall dwell in it, and there shall be no more utter destruction; but Jerusalem shall be safely
    inhabited.

    Jesus reigns on earth and Jerusalem shall be safely
    inhabited


    16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, and to keep the Feast of Tabernacles.

    17 And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain.

    18 And if the family of Egypt go not up, and come not, that have no rain; there shall be the plague, wherewith the Lord will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the Feast of Tabernacles.

    19 This shall be the punishment of Egypt, and the punishment of all nations that come not up to keep the Feast of Tabernacles.

    No rain means crops will die causing panic for they will not have enough food = this is punishment for not honoring King Jesus during the millennial reign when satan is imprisoned

     
  17. Truth7t7

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    Why do you disregard the clear teaching of scripture below?

    Jesus Christ returns, then "The End Comes" Can't be more "Clear" than that.

    There is no 1000 year kingdom on earth hidden between verses 23-24 below.

    "Then Cometh The End"

    1 Corinthians 15:20-24KJV
    20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.
    21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
    22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
    23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
    24 Then cometh the end,
    when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

    Jesus Christ Is Lord

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  18. Truth7t7

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    Jesus Christ Returns In the final judgment, eternal life, eternal kingdom, as he clearly taught below.

    There will be no future 1000 year kingdom on this earth, with mortal humans present, as Jesus sits on a throne watching mortal humans dying around him.

    Verses 31-32 Jesus Returns with the angels, the nations are gathered for judgment.

    Verse 34 The eternal kingdom is presented to the righteous.

    Verse 41 The wicked are judged to the eternal lake of fire.

    Verse 46 The righteous obtain eternal life, and enter the eternal kingdom in verse 34

    "ETERNITY BEGINS"!

    Matthew 25:31-46KJV
    31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:
    32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:

    33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
    34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
    35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:
    36 Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.
    37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?
    38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?
    39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?
    40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.
    41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
    42 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:
    43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.
    44 Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?
    45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.
    46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
     
  19. Truth7t7

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    Zechariah 13:9

    9 And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The Lord is my God.

    The Fire below represents what all believers will pass through to make it to the "Eternal Kingdom" on the other side of this fire.

    You disregard the truth of scripture below, as if it does not exist, why?

    Many teach in error Jesus returns to earth to start a 1000 year millennial kingdom, with mortal humans present?

    Scripture teaches below, Jesus returns in fire and final judgment, dissolving this present earth, as the New Heavens and Earth are revealed.

    "Eternity Begins"!

    "ALL THE SAME EVENT BELOW"

    Isaiah 66:15-16KJV
    15 For, behold, the Lord will come with fire, and with his chariots like a whirlwind, to render his anger with fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire.
    16 For by fire and by his sword will the Lord plead with all flesh: and the slain of the Lord shall be many.

    2 Peter 3:10-13KJV
    10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
    11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
    12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
    13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

    2 Thessalonians 1:7-8KJV
    7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
    8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:

    Luke 17:29-30KJV
    29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
    30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.

    Malachi 3:2KJV
    2 But who may abide the day of his coming? and who shall stand when he appeareth? for he is like a refiner's fire, and like fullers' soap:

    Zechariah 14:12KJV
    12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.

    1 Corinthians 3:13KJV
    13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.

    2 Timothy 4:1KJV
    I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;

    Revelation 21:1-2KJV
    21 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
    2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.

    As scripture "Clearly Teaches" this existing Heaven and Earth will be dissolved by the Lord's fire in final judgment at his appearing/return.

    Jesus Christ Is Lord

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  20. Truth7t7

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    You don't want to see "The Day of the Lord" in
    Zechariah 14:1, you wilfully disregard God's
    Words that teach "ALL The Wicked Sinners" Are destroyed in his fire judgment, the heavens and Earth are dissolved, "GONE"!

    "THE DAY OF THE LORD", ALL SAME EVENT!

    Zechariah 14:1, Isaiah 13:9-13, 2 Peter 3:10-13

    Zechariah 14:1KJV
    14 Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.

    Isaiah 13:9-13KJV
    9 Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, cruel both with wrath and fierce anger, to lay the land desolate: and he shall destroy the sinners thereof out of it.
    10 For the stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give their light: the sun shall be darkened in his going forth, and the moon shall not cause her light to shine.
    11 And I will punish the world for their evil, and the wicked for their iniquity; and I will cause the arrogancy of the proud to cease, and will lay low the haughtiness of the terrible.
    12 I will make a man more precious than fine gold; even a man than the golden wedge of Ophir.
    13 Therefore I will shake the heavens, and the earth shall remove out of her place, in the wrath of the Lord of hosts, and in the day of his fierce anger.

    2 Peter 3:10-13KJV
    10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
    11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
    12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
    13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.
     
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