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Discussion in 'Debate Other Religions & Faiths' started by drstevej, Jul 30, 2018.

  1. drstevej

    drstevej Light Attracts Bugs Staff Member Chaplain Supporter

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    drstevej Light Attracts Bugs Staff Member Chaplain Supporter

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    Paragraph 2 and 3 are noteworthy. They are certain of his lineage through Ephraim and Joseph. They know about his pre-existent behavior re the Heavenly Parents.
     
  3. ~Cassia~

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    Why is that patriarchal blessing and not just a general believers blessing?
     
  4. Jane_Doe

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    Actual LDS person here: a Patriarchal blessing is an individualized blessing specifically for that person.
     
  5. ~Cassia~

    ~Cassia~ Devoted to Truth Supporter

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    Oh! So the blessing recorded biblically to a biblical patriarch is passed on?
     
  6. Jane_Doe

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    I'm a little confused by your comment.
    There are examples of Patriarchal blessing recorded in scripture, like Jacob/Israel to each his sons. A typical LDS Patriarchal blessing isn't recorded in the Bible.
     
  7. ~Cassia~

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    The following from the op probably answers my question now that I look at it.
     
  8. Jane_Doe

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    Cool :)
     
  9. He is the way

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    Considering that it was originally posted by Frank himself at a website called "Thank God I'm an Atheist", I don't think Frank would mind very much that it also appears here.
     
  11. drstevej

    drstevej Light Attracts Bugs Staff Member Chaplain Supporter

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    Thanks for the link, dz.

    Frank says:
     
  12. He is the way

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    Do you believe it is a good thing that Frank is now an atheist?
     
  13. drstevej

    drstevej Light Attracts Bugs Staff Member Chaplain Supporter

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    Both atheism and Mormonism lead to the same eternal destiny. Neither is a good option. However, that is not the issue of the thread.

    The issue is the false prophecy labeled by Mormons as a "prophetic blessing." Presumptuously speaking in the name of the Lord is dangerous business.

    DEUT 18:20 (From LDS site)
    But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die.

    https://www.lds.org/scriptures/ot/deut/18.15?lang=eng
     
  14. drstevej

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    Jane, Married with Children, visiting America, Heavenly Parents Jesus is not the Jesus of the Bible.

    Reread the subforum rules

     
  15. drstevej

    drstevej Light Attracts Bugs Staff Member Chaplain Supporter

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    LDS Patriarchial blessings are filled with violations of DEUT 18:20.

    Want some more examples?
     
  16. drstevej

    drstevej Light Attracts Bugs Staff Member Chaplain Supporter

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    That is not the thread topic.
     
  17. drstevej

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    https://www.lds.org/topics/patriarchal-blessings?lang=eng
     
  18. He is the way

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    It is your assumption that patriarchal blessings are false prophecy however none my patriarchal blessing was false. It has all come to pass. Being a patriarch is a serious calling of God and is not to be taken lightly. By the same token God does not take lightly wrongful judgments about His church:

    (New Testament | Matthew 7:1 - 4)

    1 JUDGE not, that ye be not judged.
    2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
    3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
    4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
     
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    Thomas Monson,

     
  20. drstevej

    drstevej Light Attracts Bugs Staff Member Chaplain Supporter

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    He is the Way, the Mormon Church is not a Christian Church.
     
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