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When and how did your Jesus become a god?
Peter1000 said:
This we both know: by the time God the Father was ready to create the earth, Jesus, God the Son enjoyed his Godly status and was given power and authority to create the earth and all that is on the earth, and all that is above and below the earth. From the beginning of the earth, God the Father gave God the Son power to create everything.(John 1:1)
Jesus, God the Son, is the God that was seen by Israel. The God that brought Israel out of Egypt and the God that shepherded them into Israel and gave them that land. The God that spoke to all the OT prophets up to Malachi. 500 years later this God of Israel became a man and took on flesh.
That is why we can call him our Lord and our God. He is. He created us and he shepherds us, and he saved us.
How did the Mormon Jesus get his Exaltation?
Peter1000 said:
If becoming human was not to perfect His Godhood, why did Jesus retain his body of flesh and bone and spirit? You can only get a body of flesh and bone and spirit if you are born on earth.
So there was more to Jesus than being born to save us. He was born also to receive a body of flesh and bone and spirit, otherwise he could not be perfect. And if you are not perfect in all things, you cannot be God.
Elder Bednar shows how the brethren avoid difficult questions: No pre-prepared questions allowed
Is this not confusing?
Peter1000 said:
This we both know: by the time God the Father was ready to create the earth, Jesus, God the Son enjoyed his Godly status and was given power and authority to create the earth and all that is on the earth, and all that is above and below the earth. From the beginning of the earth, God the Father gave God the Son power to create everything.(John 1:1)
Jesus, God the Son, is the God that was seen by Israel. The God that brought Israel out of Egypt and the God that shepherded them into Israel and gave them that land. The God that spoke to all the OT prophets up to Malachi. 500 years later this God of Israel became a man and took on flesh.
That is why we can call him our Lord and our God. He is. He created us and he shepherds us, and he saved us.
How did the Mormon Jesus get his Exaltation?
Peter1000 said:
If becoming human was not to perfect His Godhood, why did Jesus retain his body of flesh and bone and spirit? You can only get a body of flesh and bone and spirit if you are born on earth.
So there was more to Jesus than being born to save us. He was born also to receive a body of flesh and bone and spirit, otherwise he could not be perfect. And if you are not perfect in all things, you cannot be God.
Elder Bednar shows how the brethren avoid difficult questions: No pre-prepared questions allowed
Is this not confusing?