lawlessness and disorder runs rampant in Seattle, Chicago because our country is missing this

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Matthew 24:37
But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

Genesis 6:5
And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.

Jude 1:7
Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.

Cal Thomas: Law(lessness) and (dis)order runs rampant in Seattle, Chicago because our country is missing this

"America's second president, John Adams, said, "Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."

That great sage, Benjamin Franklin, remarked at the end of the Constitutional Convention in Philadelphia: "I agree to this Constitution ... and I believe, further, that this is likely to be well administered for a course of years, and can only end in despotism, as other forms have done before it, when the people shall become so corrupted as to need despotic government, being incapable of any other."

Which begs the question as to what happens to our Constitution and our nation when a growing number of those among us become immoral and irreligious?
 

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Maybe the issues is that 240 years later minorities still have to fight tooth and nail for the rights and legal protections supposedly granted by the constitution. And by and large the people they have to fight are the moral and religious people.
 
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Maybe the issues is that 240 years later minorities still have to fight tooth and nail for the rights and legal protections supposedly granted by the constitution. And by and large the people they have to fight are the moral and religious people.
The genius of the Constitution is that it bestows upon minorities, not only the right to fight for the right, but hope for attainment.
 
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Maybe the issues is that 240 years later minorities still have to fight tooth and nail for the rights and legal protections supposedly granted by the constitution. And by and large the people they have to fight are the moral and religious people.

That's not true at all. That's the mindset of a few that feel they have failed and buy into a false narrative. Are they at a disadvantage because of past actions I say yes but that no longer holds true. It is hard to succeed in the world today as most job opportunities have gone to automation and cheap labor but it is also hard on non minorities. Everyone including myself, I'm not exempt, look to blame someone else because it's easier than admitting the fault is within. The white man isn't holding anyone back, they are competing at the same game as everyone else. Christians understand this and want everyone to be as one. We don't want violence and oppression. We don't want lawlessness or immorality.
 
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Matthew 24:37
But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

Genesis 6:5
And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.

Jude 1:7
Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.

Cal Thomas: Law(lessness) and (dis)order runs rampant in Seattle, Chicago because our country is missing this

"America's second president, John Adams, said, "Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."

That great sage, Benjamin Franklin, remarked at the end of the Constitutional Convention in Philadelphia: "I agree to this Constitution ... and I believe, further, that this is likely to be well administered for a course of years, and can only end in despotism, as other forms have done before it, when the people shall become so corrupted as to need despotic government, being incapable of any other."

Which begs the question as to what happens to our Constitution and our nation when a growing number of those among us become immoral and irreligious?

Matthew 24:11-12
And many false prophets will arise and lead many astray. And because lawlessness will be increased, the love of many will grow cold.
 
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The genius of the Constitution is that it bestows upon minorities, not only the right to fight for the right, but hope for attainment.
they shouldn't have to fight for the same rights and protections everyone else enjoys
 
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That's not true at all. That's the mindset of a few that feel they have failed and buy into a false narrative. Are they at a disadvantage because of past actions I say yes but that no longer holds true. It is hard to succeed in the world today as most job opportunities have gone to automation and cheap labor but it is also hard on non minorities. Everyone including myself, I'm not exempt, look to blame someone else because it's easier than admitting the fault is within. The white man isn't holding anyone back, they are competing at the same game as everyone else. Christians understand this and want everyone to be as one. We don't want violence and oppression. We don't want lawlessness or immorality.
this June the Supreme Court had to rule that you can't be fired from your job just because you were a member of a minority. No one should be subjected to that sort of discrimination but people were. It was conservative Christians that were saying that yes, they had the right to fire someone just because they were a minority.
 
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What constitutional rights and protections do they lack?
until this June some could be fired from their jobs just because they were a member of a minority. a protection guaranteed by the 14th amendment
Currently in 29 states minorities can be denied housing even evicted from their homes with no legal recourse. (it will be interesting to see if the courts extend the June ruling to include housing protections
 
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"America's second president, John Adams, said (snip) Benjamin Franklin, remarked (snip)
...who cares what they thought/said? They thought owning other humans was "sort of bad" but obviously not bad enough to do something about it. They were humans, they had their good sides and their bad, but quoting what 18th century guys thought in the 21st century as if it was something we should care about is a little...sad.
tulc(just thought that should be pointed out)
 
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...who cares what they thought/said? They thought owning other humans was "sort of bad" but obviously not bad enough to do something about it. They were humans, they had their good sides and their bad, but quoting what 18th century guys thought in the 21st century as if it was something we should care about is a little...sad.
tulc(just thought that should be pointed out)
What's really sad is that they're right. What's even more sad is it's happening to us right now.
 
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What's really sad is that they're right. What's even more sad is it's happening to us right now.
You think people now a days are more sinful than they were back then? By what measure are you measuring that? Because we aren't living by 18th century standards? So again, I'm curious why we should be concerned with what they thought?
tulc(is still curious)
 
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until this June some could be fired from their jobs just because they were a member of a minority. a protection guaranteed by the 14th amendment
Currently in 29 states minorities can be denied housing even evicted from their homes with no legal recourse. (it will be interesting to see if the courts extend the June ruling to include housing protections

What are you talking about? You lost me.

You can be fired for being a certain race? You can be denied housing due to this also? Where is that legal?
 
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until this June some could be fired from their jobs just because they were a member of a minority. a protection guaranteed by the 14th amendment
Currently in 29 states minorities can be denied housing even evicted from their homes with no legal recourse. (it will be interesting to see if the courts extend the June ruling to include housing protections
Can you quote constitution or law saying such things?
 
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What are you talking about? You lost me.

You can be fired for being a certain race? You can be denied housing due to this also? Where is that legal?
as of June 15 it is no longer legal. Thank you Supreme Court
 
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Can you quote constitution or law saying such things?
the 14th amendment to the constitution contains what is refereed to as the equal protection clause: "No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
 
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the 14th amendment to the constitution contains what is refereed to as the equal protection clause: "No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

And what state's law is against minorities, saying for example that if you are Japanese or Mexican or Russian, you can be fired from work or your house can be taken or something like that?
 
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You think people now a days are more sinful than they were back then? By what measure are you measuring that? Because we aren't living by 18th century standards? So again, I'm curious why we should be concerned with what they thought?
tulc(is still curious)
Back then, America considered the Bible to be the arbitor of morality. Today, you're considered immoral if you fail to agree with the far-left. This includes agreeing with their idea that America is inherently evil.
 
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Back then, America considered the Bible to be the arbitor of morality.
genocide, mass killings, misogamy, racism, lynchings, I don't think America in the 18th century is really a model of morality


Today, you're considered immoral if you fail to agree with the far-left. This includes agreeing with their idea that America is inherently evil.
or that gays are people....oh wait the right calls you evil if you think that
 
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