Late-summer Arctic sea ice could disappear by 2040

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The Paris Accord.
Trump was smart enough to drop out of that worthless get together that was going to make us pay a whole lot of money while they do their thing. Obama sucked up to them good riddance.
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What does the accord actually entail? I mean not Trump’s version but in reality?
 
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Most of this global warming theory was started so as to promote nuclear energy.

Jimmy Carter was assigned to nuclear submarines while in the Navy and he played a big part in promoting nuclear energy and promoting the good old global warming Theory.
M-Bob
 
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What does the accord actually entail? I mean not Trump’s version but in reality?

Well it does not call for China nor India to make many changes if any for 20 or 25 years. That alone was good reason to drop out.

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True he would simply be the expert in the field.

Citation needed.

Seems many don't care about true facts anymore.

Sure they do. That's why they reject spin from PR firms funded by oil companies and instead look to the scientific consensus on a subject.
 
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Well it does not call for China nor India to make many changes if any for 20 or 25 years. That alone was good reason to drop out.

M-Bob

They are in much less of a position to than the West - I’m not sure how a ‘well they aren’t doing it so why should we’ attitude really helps. A smart business adapts - smart countries adapt to. Retraining programs for workers in traditional industries could be a lot more useful for developed economies than dragging out a failing scenario, putting off the problem for someone else to deal with. If the US is concerned about what China is doing, Trump needs to take some interest in Asia beyond tweets and showy gestures.
 
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Most of this global warming theory was started so as to promote nuclear energy.

Citation needed.

Jimmy Carter was assigned to nuclear submarines while in the Navy and he played a big part in promoting nuclear energy and promoting the good old global warming Theory.
How big a part, specifically? What research group was he part of? How many peer-reviewed publications? Conference presentations? Come on, show us you're not just making stuff up.
 
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Jimmy Carter was assigned to nuclear submarines while in the Navy and he played a big part in promoting nuclear energy and promoting the good old global warming Theory.
M-Bob

President Carter separated from the US Navy prior to the first nuclear sub being put into service. Given your posts perpetual cries of "cake news" I would think that facts would be important.
 
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What's the difference between water at 10 degree C and 11 degrees C or any other one degree difference aside from the melting and boiling points? If they are all not answered with the same answer as your question would be, then your example is the exception ( one of only two points in which a one degree difference actually is a big deal for water ) and not the rule( every other one degree difference in water temperature) therefore it is inapt and using it as an analogy to what is actually occurring, which would conform to the rule rather than the exception, is inept.
Why is it so difficult to answer what the difference between water at 0°C and 1°C? Do you understand why that temperature is different from one between 10°C and 11°C despite having the same difference in temperature? Considering we're talking global temperature, do you see why the 0°C to 1°C change may be important? Another factor to consider is there's a reason why shoveling a walkway partially and leaving behind some snow will still result in that snow melting and evaporating, do you know why that occurs? And do you understand why that is more of a problem that is analogous to what happens at the North Pole?
 
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Most of this global warming theory was started so as to promote nuclear energy.

Jimmy Carter was assigned to nuclear submarines while in the Navy and he played a big part in promoting nuclear energy and promoting the good old global warming Theory.
M-Bob
As with any change in human affairs, there are interests on all sides. Its good to consider those. But at some point you need to settle on the actual facts.
 
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I'm sure you're waiting to support him in all of his efforts.
M-Bob

Yes, well I hope he does pull something out of the bag, it's in everyone's interests for him to increase US economic clout in Asia, it just seems that he's not really all that interested in doing so. Not sure how I can support him in whatever he has planned.
 
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The loss of Arctic sea ice will not have a significant contribution to sea level rise since this is floating ice that is already 90% submerged. It is land based glaciers and ice shelves that will be the major contributors.
 
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The loss of Arctic sea ice will not have a significant contribution to sea level rise since this is floating ice that is already 90% submerged. It is land based glaciers and ice shelves that will be the major contributors.
While the loss of Arctic sea ice does not significantly contribute to sea level rise, it does significantly contribute to increase warming in oceans as the the sea ice, which usually reflects sunlight, is now replaced with oceans, that will absorb more sunlight and increase warming.
 
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This is a statue located in Berlin, entitled "Politicians Discussing Global Warming."​
 
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The Paris Accord.
Trump was smart enough to drop out of that worthless get together that was going to make us pay a whole lot of money while they do their thing. Obama sucked up to them good riddance.
M-Bob
You're actually still in it.
 
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Well let's see what the most qualified expert has to say.

Please no more fearful propaganda.


Where are his peer reviewed articles?

He isn't an expert. He works for an organization ("think tank") funded by fossil fuel based companies.

Releasing CO2 causes an increase in global temperatures. That's a fact. Denying this is as absurd as flat Earth theories but this will actually cause permanent damage.
 
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