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LA considering bringing back mask orders...

Discussion in 'News & Current Events (Articles Required)' started by ThatRobGuy, Jul 23, 2022.

  1. ThatRobGuy

    ThatRobGuy Part of the IT crowd Supporter

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    https://www.sacbee.com/news/coronavirus/article263506228.html

    Local health officials announced that if Los Angeles County is classified in the CDC’s high community level for two consecutive weeks, the county would return to an indoor mask order the following day.

    Health officers in several counties, including Sacramento and Yolo in the capital region, have said they would not consider reinstituting mandatory masking unless hospitals faced the threat of being overwhelmed.


    If I were a LA resident, I would have a couple of questions.

    1) With over 80% of their populations being vaccinated (over 90% for vulnerable age groups), why would they reinstitute a mandate for something that was just a stop-gap measure until vaccines were available?

    2) Would the mandate be just a "mask mandate" or a N/KN-95 mandate? Given that both the WHO and CDC have both mentioned that cloth masks are basically useless against the latest Omicron subvariants, if a simple cloth mask satisfies the mandate (and that's what most people are going to wear), then what's the point?

    3) Which metrics are they using to justify the measure? The mandates were originally aimed at keeping hospitals from being overwhelmed and minimizing deaths. From what I can see with the stats, deaths have remained pretty much flat since late March, and hospitalizations aren't going up by any noticeable amount in the vaccinated population (which is most of them).

    I would hope that a Governor like Newsom (who just got done running a bunch of "freedom-centric ads" for his state wouldn't sit idly by while counties implement mandates in order to stave off sore throats and sniffles.

    Earlier on in the pandemic, people were falsely comparing covid to a cold or flu (when it was actually worse in terms of key metrics)...now that we're finally at the place where it is more like a cold/flu, I was hoping that people would treat it accordingly and not fixate on the "cases" metric anymore.
     
  2. Paulos23

    Paulos23 Never tell me the odds!

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    Given that I still wear a mask on the bus and in the office, etc, I am fine with this order. Since I have been wearing a mask my rate of getting sick has cut down to almost nil.

    But then I don't live in CA. :)
     
  3. ThatRobGuy

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    Is the point of "public health orders" to make sure that nobody ever encounters a pathogen ever again? Or is it to prevent death and keep hospitals from being overwhelmed?

    I would assume you're vaccinated and boosted like I am...for either of us, our chances of getting seriously ill are nil (I've had two prior infections at this point, and most everyone I know has had at least one prior infection. I can't think of anyone personally that's been able to dodge it completely over these last 2.5 years).

    As far as getting a sore throat or runny nose/congestion again, I'm 99% sure I was going to encounter that again at some point in my life with or without covid being around. That's not worth issuing "orders" over. Recommendations? Perhaps (depending on how fearful people are of pathogens)...but not orders.
     
  4. Tropical Wilds

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    I still mask whenever I leave the house too. I’m going to masking full-time for the foreseeable.
     
  5. RaptureToBeSoon

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    Its time to live in faith, instead of fear.

    This isn't the place to debate the science of masks, vaccinations, etc.... It is the place for scripture and living by that scripture.

    3 John 1:2, "Beloved, I pray that you may prosper in all things and be in health, just as your soul prospers."

    Isaiah 53:5, "But He was wounded for our transgressions, He was bruised for our iniquities; The chastisement for our peace was upon Him, And by His stripes we are healed."
     
  6. mala

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    I have double masked both in doors and outdoors since the start of this and have worked next, less than 1 meter apart, to people whom have had all the variants without catching covid till date. I think the idea that masks are a burden is a very childish thing pushed by childish people. It is an effective first line of defense.
     
  7. mala

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    you're in the wrong forum room.
     
  8. RaptureToBeSoon

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    Why?
     
  9. Pommer

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    There are other areas of these fine forums that you may find more to your liking. These safe spaces don’t allow us heathen in them. Welcome to Christian Forums!
     
  10. Pommer

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    I only use one mask, (disposable surgical), I see people out with cloth masks and give them as wide a berth as the unmasked.
     
  11. Landon Caeli

    Landon Caeli Patience is a Virtue Staff Member Red Team - Moderator Supporter

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    My entire family had covid at once, except for me. I just isolated myself in the master bedroom and made sure I washed my hands after touching the door handles. I put a towel at the bottom of the door and kept the window open.

    ...I've still never caught it.
     
  12. Pommer

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    You all shotted-up? (I done four, so far).
     
  13. Landon Caeli

    Landon Caeli Patience is a Virtue Staff Member Red Team - Moderator Supporter

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    I had a couple. Pfizer.
     
  14. Pommer

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    I got Moderna and have no reactions other than a sore arm and a bit draggy for a day.
     
  15. Aryeh Jay

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    I've had three ivermection, one heart worm, and get a bleach booster every other month.
     
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  16. Pardon Maoi

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    I've been double masking since late 2020. A cloth mask for droplets, and a surgical mask for as much of the aerosols as it can catch. Thus far I've been lucky.
     
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    Beginning of August I'm getting fiber optics installed in all of my major arteries.
     
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  18. Nithavela

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    This actually is the place to debate the science of masks and vaccinations, though.
     
  19. expos4ever

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    Live in faith instead of fear? What, exactly, does fear have to do with with taking sensible measures to reduce the chance of getting sick? And making others sick?
     
  20. Nithavela

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    I think the appropriate bible passage is Matthew 4:7
     
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