L. A. Times editor resigns over ownership refusal to endorse Harris

[ThatRobGuy]

Ownership wants to stifle free speech.

Or, in the case of LA Times...

Ownership's radical far-left daughter wants her ideological group's viewpoint injected into the editorial process.

L. A. Times editor resigns over ownership refusal to endorse Harris

That's true but I feel pretty confident most progressives who are critical of ISrael will not vote for Trump. They may abstain but I don'hink they would be happy with a Trump president either. Nose face spiting happens, for sure. No, I don't think they'll be voting for Trump... but the...

www.christianforums.com

Wasn't sure if you saw my previous post...

She wasn't bashful about hopping on X to imply that a vote for Harris is a vote for Palestinian genocide

 

[Hank77]

Trump's certainly vengeful, but that hasn't stopped literally every left-leaning outlet from bashing him nonstop for the past 10 years, so the idea that they'd be afraid to endorse his opponent for that reason alone is questionable.

I don't think it's questionable when it comes to Bezos.
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Post editor-at-large Robert Kagan also announced his resignation on Friday following the non-endorsement. In an interview with CNN, Kagan said the move indicated Bezos' concerning relationship with Trump. "This is clearly an effort by Bezos to try to get on Trump's good side in advance of his presidency," he said.

Bezos holds significant business interests before the federal government that involve billions of dollars each year, from Amazon’s shipping business and cloud computing services to his Blue Origin space company.

When Trump was in office, he threatened to personally review Amazon’s submission to the Pentagon for a cloud computing contract worth $10 billion — out of frustration of the Post's coverage of him. The Defense Department instead awarded the contract to Microsoft,...

On Friday, just hours after the Post's announcement to not endorse, The Associated Press reported that Trump met with executives of Bezos’s Blue Origin, which has a multibillion-dollar contract with NASA.

https://www.npr.org/2024/10/26/nx-s1-5166062/washington-post-endorsement-controversy

 

[Aldebaran]

At the LA Times they are.

You still haven't supported that view with evidence.

Right and so the owner decided it was better to silence their views and force them into resignation. Doesn't sound like a very welcoming work environment. They are much better off leaving such an intolerant organization.

They chose to resign. Their resignation, their choice.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

Or, in the case of LA Times...

Ownership's radical far-left daughter wants her ideological group's viewpoint injected into the editorial process.

L. A. Times editor resigns over ownership refusal to endorse Harris

That's true but I feel pretty confident most progressives who are critical of ISrael will not vote for Trump. They may abstain but I don'hink they would be happy with a Trump president either. Nose face spiting happens, for sure. No, I don't think they'll be voting for Trump... but the...

www.christianforums.com

Wasn't sure if you saw my previous post...

She wasn't bashful about hopping on X to imply that a vote for Harris is a vote for Palestinian genocide

That’s gotta create quite the conundrum for some of our more pro-Israel friends on the right who seem to be in favor of this.

 

[Aldebaran]

That’s gotta create quite the conundrum for some of our more pro-Israel friends on the right who seem to be in favor of this.

Not really. Being pro-Israel is hardly pro-genocide. But if being pro-Israel causes Harris to lose votes, I won't lose any sleep over it.

 

[ThatRobGuy]

That’s gotta create quite the conundrum for some of our more pro-Israel friends on the right who seem to be in favor of this.

You've got to remember, in the realm of activism (which tends to be myopic by its very nature), big picture thinking isn't a strong suit lol.

The folks on the right you refer to are exhibiting tunnel vision in that, celebrating the fact that a liberal editor who liked Harris resigned...while not realizing that it was likely at the behest of the owner's pro-Palestinian daughter (who's involved with several other left causes).

Nika (the LA Times Owner's daughter) is celebrating this decision because she's so radically focused on the Gaza issue...for right now, that's she's failing to recognize that her other activism causes (and she's involved in several, ranging from guaranteed wages, to police reform, to climate, etc...) would be much more supported by Harris than Trump.

It's a "throwing the baby out with the bathwater" situation happening all around.

In Nika's mind, she's probably thinking "once Harris's people see this, they'll concede on this issue and jump on board with our way of thinking in order to get the endorsement". But, is neglecting to realize that Harris is in a position where she needs to appeal to people other than just 30-year old trust fund kids in So-Cal.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

Not really. Being pro-Israel is hardly pro-genocide. But if being pro-Israel causes Harris to lose votes, I won't lose any sleep over it.

I’m not so sure it’s really losing her any votes so much as maybe making her a bit less palatable to some minority of single issue voters but glad to hear you’re getting good sleep in these last days before the election.

 

[ThatRobGuy]

To elaborate further on my post #66, this kind of thing is the left-leaning "circular firing squad" that Obama warned progressives about when giving a speech at his daughter's college.

I'll paraphrase because I forget the exact words he used (although, the video is probably easy enough to find)

"For you young people who think that everyone has to be ideological pure, and if you're not woke enough" (and yes, he did use that word 'woke' lol) "...I can show everyone else how good I am for calling you out... you should get over that quickly. Situations are messy"


Edit: I found the video

My paraphrase from memory wasn't far off...

 

[KCfromNC]

Looks like the Post has endorsed Harris after all, in a fashion : https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2024/10/26/washington-post-endorses-kamala-harris-satire

 

[Aldebaran]

Looks like the Post has endorsed Harris after all, in a fashion : https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2024/10/26/washington-post-endorses-kamala-harris-satire

Only the humor columnist, not the paper.
Didn't you read it first?

 

[IceJad]

I would understand. If they didn't endorse him and he won, he would certainly be vengeful against them.




Which is what is said about fascists.

You sound like a conspiracy theorist. What a leap of logic. From not supporting Kamala to Trump will get revenge.

How about this? LA Times is a news company which should (key word here) not be openly endorsing any candidate to ensure journalist integrity. All news companies should uphold this in fact. An editor who resigns over a presidency candidate endorsement should never, let me repeat NEVER be offered another position in journalism. I know some Americans can't wrap their heads around the concept of freedom of thought but it exists.

Also you don't know what fascism truly is. You understand neither the principles of it nor the characteristics of it. To you is anything that is against your side. And I'm telling you this as a non-American who has in many other posts stated publicly I like neither Trump or Biden (now Kamala) candidacy. What I like less is people using buzzword like fascism in the wrong context and understanding.

 

[essentialsaltes]

How about this? LA Times is a news company which should (key word here) not be openly endorsing any candidate to ensure journalist integrity. All news companies should uphold this in fact.

Newspaper endorsements in US political elections are common and unexceptional. Editorial boards provide editorial opinions, and are separate from the newsrooms, which provide the news.

Newspaper editorial pages have been endorsing presidential candidates for well over a century. On Oct. 11, 1860, the New York Times editorial page threw its hat behind a “Mr. Lincoln, of Illinois, familiarly known as ‘Old Abe,’ age 51, height six feet seven, by profession Rail-Splitter.”

Editor & Publisher magazine has, for many decades, surveyed newspapers about their presidential endorsements.

 

[rambot]

This has happenned for ages. And yet somehow all these arguments come up as if they mean something.

 

[rambot]

You sound like a conspiracy theorist. What a leap of logic. From not supporting Kamala to Trump will get revenge.

Trump is a vengeful person. Do you agree?

Also you don't know what fascism truly is. You understand neither the principles of it nor the characteristics of it. To you is anything that is against your side. And I'm telling you this as a non-American who has in many other posts stated publicly I like neither Trump or Biden (now Kamala) candidacy. What I like less is people using buzzword like fascism in the wrong context and understanding.

This sounds defensive. I'm not talking about fascism at all. I haven't brought it up or addressed it in any meaningful way. For this whole paragraph....I just need to assume you're talking about someone else. I'm not interested in people telling me I don't know the definition of a word if they have not proven they are familiar with the definition; Moreso when I'm not even using the word or addressing it.

 

[RoBo1988]

200k unsubscribed...

https://www.npr.org/2024/10/28/nx-s1-5168416/washington-post-bezos-endorsement-president-cancellations-resignations

 

[KCfromNC]

You sound like a conspiracy theorist. What a leap of logic. From not supporting Kamala to Trump will get revenge.

There's certainly a precedent there : Trump Has Already Punished Jeff Bezos Over the Washington Post’s Independence