Know church history well but stay protestant

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I remember the news about Tony Blair..some years ago.
- The former British Prime Minister.
He became a Catholic..
- Changed from the 'Anglican Church of England' to Catholicism.
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It was interesting news..
I assume that.. he still is a Catholic.
 
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Which 4 branches are you referring to? Catholic, Eastern orthodox and protestant, for me it's just 3.
Orientalist Orthodox probably, but I think mainline Protestant and Western Catholic are separate from traditionalist Protestant and Catholic, so that’s 5. (I count mainline and Western Protestant as part of the same branch.)
 
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I've heard the story of many protestants became Roman Catholic after they're exposed to church history and the church fathers. But I guess as an anglican, I don't see the appeal there, maybe anglican too is rich in history, the continuity is there unlike many modern protestant churches.. so I as a protestant I don't feel I need a leap..
I seriously doubt this. Why would someone who knows what salvation by grace means go back to religious rituals where one can give money and get relatives out of purgatory thinking?
 
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I've heard the story of many protestants became Roman Catholic after they're exposed to church history and the church fathers. But I guess as an anglican, I don't see the appeal there, maybe anglican too is rich in history, the continuity is there unlike many modern protestant churches.. so I as a protestant I don't feel I need a leap..

I've met many Christians whose story is exactly the opposite of what you've described. They discover the history of Roman Catholicism and want nothing to do with the R.C. church.
 
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I've known Orthodox priests who have become RC, RC to Orthodox, Lutheran to Orthodox etc. I pray for all of them as I know that converting as a member of the clergy is incredibly difficult on them.
 
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The more I read about Catholic Church history and beliefs, the more I appreciate its role in Christian history and the theology of the Church Fathers. However, it also reaffirms the fact that I am a solid Protestant at heart.
 
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That describes the problem, not the solution.

There is one truth, you don’t get to choose what it is.

Abortion is right or wrong.

On every issue from baptismal method, necessity , regeneration , priesthood, massively different views on salvation, remarriage. Sacraments , Eucharist , lgbt issues, role of suffering , purgation etc etc etc , even modalism rather than trinity! (Some Pentecostals) There is almost every permutation out there.

Choosing all but one permutation is in essence choosing falsehood. Personal taste doesn’t ( or shouldn’t )come in to it.

It also illustrates the essence of the problem. Authority.
when a dispute takes place over doctrine, only the RC church claims a method to resolve it.

Calvin, Luther and zwingli had very different views on many subjects, their essential problem was sola scriptura , that there was then no way to resolve disputes other than endless schism, and in outlawing authority they also outlawed the New Testament, a product of the authority they outlawed. I also thought Luther somewhat dishonest, in disavowing the so called apocryphal books which he knew were in the septuagint: just because he disliked the theology. History shows RC didn’t add them, they were always there. Luther removed them! By what authority?

The myth of perspecuity of scripture. It clearly isn’t even so on fundamentals!

Protestants often seem United only in declaring Catholicism wrong, which rather deflects focus on the massive divisions in Protestantism.

I left Anglicanism for several reasons, one was lack of certainty over Eucharistic doctrine and practice, but equally big , it became apparent that the Anglican synod lacked unity over too many issues. How so if there is only one truth?

The question is “ where is authority” ?

That’s no disrespect to my Anglican friends, I met many holy people I admired along the way.

But the doctrinal disputes were a problem for me.


I believe that for most people the history in no way influences their selection of a denomination. People who spend time analyzing different denominational beliefs make their selection based on what is most compatible with their personal beliefs. Most people do not even get into that depth.
 
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I remember the news about Tony Blair..some years ago.
- The former British Prime Minister.
He became a Catholic..
- Changed from the 'Anglican Church of England' to Catholicism.
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It was interesting news..
I assume that.. he still is a Catholic.
No doubt. In law, the Church of England IS the Catholic Church in England.
 
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I've heard the story of many protestants became Roman Catholic after they're exposed to church history and the church fathers. But I guess as an anglican, I don't see the appeal there, maybe anglican too is rich in history, the continuity is there unlike many modern protestant churches.. so I as a protestant I don't feel I need a leap..

The RCC is full of revisionist history - for example, Peter was never pope in Rome.
 
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No doubt. In law, the Church of England IS the Catholic Church in England.
Alas. The law of England has no bearing whatsoever on Gods law. The law of England can declare black is white to no avail. Jesus’ church is one.
 
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The RCC is full of revisionist history - for example, Peter was never pope in Rome.
It’s somewhat fascinating that those almost 2000 years closer to the history than you are think the chair of Peter mattered.
 
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No doubt. In law, the Church of England IS the Catholic Church in England.
You said,
" In law, the Church of England is the Catholic Church in England."
- Meaning..the Church of England is part of 'the One, Holy,
Catholic and Apostolic Church' ?
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Or Catholic Church( you wrote ) meaning RCC?
 
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I've heard the story of many protestants became Roman Catholic after they're exposed to church history and the church fathers. But I guess as an anglican, I don't see the appeal there, maybe anglican too is rich in history, the continuity is there unlike many modern protestant churches.. so I as a protestant I don't feel I need a leap..
Trad Anglicans and Lutherans have plenty of church history to be proud of. Anglican Studies with Fr. McKinnon are excellent and square church history within the Prot context. He makes sense of church history and the Reformation. The Prayer Book is amazing and I use it often.
 
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Alas. The law of England has no bearing whatsoever on Gods law. The law of England can declare black is white to no avail. Jesus’ church is one.
It was a lighthearted comment, Mike, although factually correct.

I don't think we need fight over it.;)
 
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One's uphill and the other downhill?
Drake needs to know these things in case he sails the passage. (With his usual intentions of sinking Catholic ships)
I know this was light hearted and I hate to drop weight on a light comment; but the Bosphurus was well chosen by Constantine for it's military defensibility. Rome on the other hand is very hard to defend. Since Constantine moved his capital, Rome has been sacked 21 times. Constantinople would last another 1000 years without falling, though it was sacked during the Fourth Crusade by crusaders.
 
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