Kerry’s Rage Against Israel

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John Kerry delivered a marathon speech Wednesday excoriating Israel for its settlements policy, and we hear Israeli TV stations dropped the live broadcast after the first half-hour. Who can blame them? If Israelis don’t feel the need to sit through another verbal assault from the soon to be former Secretary of State, it’s because they live in a reality he shows no evidence of comprehending.

Mr. Kerry has made the pursuit of Israeli-Palestinian peace a major goal of his tenure, conducting intensive negotiations for nearly a year until they collapsed in spring 2014. That collapse came after the Palestinian Authority announced the creation of a unity government with Hamas, the terrorist group sworn to Israel’s destruction. Shortly thereafter, Hamas started a war with Israel from its Gaza stronghold, the third such war since Israel vacated Gaza of all settlements in 2005.

In his speech, Mr. Kerry went out of his way to personalize his differences with current Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, claiming he leads the “most right-wing” coalition in Israeli history. But Israelis also remember that Mr. Netanyahu ordered a settlement freeze, and that also brought peace no closer.

The lesson is that Jewish settlements are not the main obstacle to peace. If they were, Gaza would be on its way to becoming the Costa Rica of the Mediterranean. The obstacle is Palestinian rejection of Israel’s right to exist as a Jewish state in any borders. A Secretary of State who wishes to resolve the conflict could have started from that premise, while admonishing the Palestinians that they will never get a state so long as its primary purpose is the destruction of its neighbor.

Kerry’s Rage Against Israel


Secretary of State John F. Kerry on Wednesday harshly criticized Israeli settlements in the West Bank, saying their growth threatens to destroy the viability of a two-state solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, and that the United States was obliged to allow passage of a U.N. resolution condemning the activity in order to preserve the possibility of peace.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu called the speech “a big disappointment.”

“He deals obsessively with the settlements, he fails to deal with the Palestinian failure to recognize a Jewish state,” Netanyahu said, adding, “If he put the same emphasis on Palestinian incitement and terror that he did on settlements then maybe we will be on the way to peace.”

About two hours before Kerry started speaking, Trump tweeted his criticism of the Obama administration:

“We cannot continue to let Israel be treated with such total disdain and disrespect. They used to have a great friend in the U.S., but . . . not anymore. The beginning of the end was the horrible Iran deal, and now this (U.N.)! Stay strong Israel, January 20th is fast approaching!”

Netanyahu, in turn, promptly tweeted his gratitude: “President-elect Trump, thank you for your warm friendship and your clear-cut support for Israel!”

Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee, called Kerry’s speech “at best a pointless tirade in the waning days of an outgoing administration.”

The U.S. abstention has been condemned by several Democrats as well, including
Sen. Charles E. Schumer (N.Y.), who is the party’s incoming leader.

Kerry harshly condemns Israeli settler activity as an obstacle to peace

Culture and Sports Minister Miri Regev on Tuesday launched a double-barreled attack on US President Barack Obama, first calling on him to take note of Jerusalem’s ancient Jewish history and then dismissing him as being no longer relevant due to the upcoming end to his term in office.

“Who is Obama?” Regev asked rhetorically. “Obama is history. We have Trump.”

“Fifty years ago, we turned hope into reality: Jerusalem, the capital of Israel, was once again united, and we will never agree to its being divided a second time,” Regev declared.

“Several weeks ago UNESCO declared that there is no such link,” Regev said. “The ridiculous vote in Paris cannot cancel thousands of years of history. Today we respond to this distortion of history and say in a loud and clear voice: Jews lived in Jerusalem and will continue to live in Jerusalem. Jews built Jerusalem and will continue to build Jerusalem. Thus it was 2,000 years ago, thus it is today and thus it will remain forever.”

Defiant Israeli culture minister: ‘Obama is history, we have Trump’
 

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John Kerry delivered a marathon speech Wednesday excoriating Israel for its settlements policy, and we hear Israeli TV stations dropped the live broadcast after the first half-hour. Who can blame them? If Israelis don’t feel the need to sit through another verbal assault from the soon to be former Secretary of State, it’s because they live in a reality he shows no evidence of comprehending.

Mr. Kerry has made the pursuit of Israeli-Palestinian peace a major goal of his tenure, conducting intensive negotiations for nearly a year until they collapsed in spring 2014. That collapse came after the Palestinian Authority announced the creation of a unity government with Hamas, the terrorist group sworn to Israel’s destruction. Shortly thereafter, Hamas started a war with Israel from its Gaza stronghold, the third such war since Israel vacated Gaza of all settlements in 2005.

In his speech, Mr. Kerry went out of his way to personalize his differences with current Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, claiming he leads the “most right-wing” coalition in Israeli history. But Israelis also remember that Mr. Netanyahu ordered a settlement freeze, and that also brought peace no closer.

The lesson is that Jewish settlements are not the main obstacle to peace. If they were, Gaza would be on its way to becoming the Costa Rica of the Mediterranean. The obstacle is Palestinian rejection of Israel’s right to exist as a Jewish state in any borders. A Secretary of State who wishes to resolve the conflict could have started from that premise, while admonishing the Palestinians that they will never get a state so long as its primary purpose is the destruction of its neighbor.

Kerry’s Rage Against Israel


Secretary of State John F. Kerry on Wednesday harshly criticized Israeli settlements in the West Bank, saying their growth threatens to destroy the viability of a two-state solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, and that the United States was obliged to allow passage of a U.N. resolution condemning the activity in order to preserve the possibility of peace.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu called the speech “a big disappointment.”

“He deals obsessively with the settlements, he fails to deal with the Palestinian failure to recognize a Jewish state,” Netanyahu said, adding, “If he put the same emphasis on Palestinian incitement and terror that he did on settlements then maybe we will be on the way to peace.”

About two hours before Kerry started speaking, Trump tweeted his criticism of the Obama administration:

“We cannot continue to let Israel be treated with such total disdain and disrespect. They used to have a great friend in the U.S., but . . . not anymore. The beginning of the end was the horrible Iran deal, and now this (U.N.)! Stay strong Israel, January 20th is fast approaching!”

Netanyahu, in turn, promptly tweeted his gratitude: “President-elect Trump, thank you for your warm friendship and your clear-cut support for Israel!”

Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee, called Kerry’s speech “at best a pointless tirade in the waning days of an outgoing administration.”

The U.S. abstention has been condemned by several Democrats as well, including
Sen. Charles E. Schumer (N.Y.), who is the party’s incoming leader.

Kerry harshly condemns Israeli settler activity as an obstacle to peace

Culture and Sports Minister Miri Regev on Tuesday launched a double-barreled attack on US President Barack Obama, first calling on him to take note of Jerusalem’s ancient Jewish history and then dismissing him as being no longer relevant due to the upcoming end to his term in office.

“Who is Obama?” Regev asked rhetorically. “Obama is history. We have Trump.”

“Fifty years ago, we turned hope into reality: Jerusalem, the capital of Israel, was once again united, and we will never agree to its being divided a second time,” Regev declared.

“Several weeks ago UNESCO declared that there is no such link,” Regev said. “The ridiculous vote in Paris cannot cancel thousands of years of history. Today we respond to this distortion of history and say in a loud and clear voice: Jews lived in Jerusalem and will continue to live in Jerusalem. Jews built Jerusalem and will continue to build Jerusalem. Thus it was 2,000 years ago, thus it is today and thus it will remain forever.”

Defiant Israeli culture minister: ‘Obama is history, we have Trump’

God have mercy.

Thank GOD this man (Kerry) is moving on and will no longer be of any consequence.
 
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"On that day the Lord will put a shield about the inhabitants of Jerusalem so that the feeblest among them on that day shall be like David, and the house of David shall be like God, like the angel of the Lord, at their head. And on that day I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem."
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John Kerry delivered a marathon speech Wednesday excoriating Israel for its settlements policy, and we hear Israeli TV stations dropped the live broadcast after the first half-hour. Who can blame them? If Israelis don’t feel the need to sit through another verbal assault from the soon to be former Secretary of State, it’s because they live in a reality he shows no evidence of comprehending.

Mr. Kerry has made the pursuit of Israeli-Palestinian peace a major goal of his tenure, conducting intensive negotiations for nearly a year until they collapsed in spring 2014. That collapse came after the Palestinian Authority announced the creation of a unity government with Hamas, the terrorist group sworn to Israel’s destruction. Shortly thereafter, Hamas started a war with Israel from its Gaza stronghold, the third such war since Israel vacated Gaza of all settlements in 2005.

In his speech, Mr. Kerry went out of his way to personalize his differences with current Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, claiming he leads the “most right-wing” coalition in Israeli history. But Israelis also remember that Mr. Netanyahu ordered a settlement freeze, and that also brought peace no closer.

The lesson is that Jewish settlements are not the main obstacle to peace. If they were, Gaza would be on its way to becoming the Costa Rica of the Mediterranean. The obstacle is Palestinian rejection of Israel’s right to exist as a Jewish state in any borders. A Secretary of State who wishes to resolve the conflict could have started from that premise, while admonishing the Palestinians that they will never get a state so long as its primary purpose is the destruction of its neighbor.

Kerry’s Rage Against Israel


Secretary of State John F. Kerry on Wednesday harshly criticized Israeli settlements in the West Bank, saying their growth threatens to destroy the viability of a two-state solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, and that the United States was obliged to allow passage of a U.N. resolution condemning the activity in order to preserve the possibility of peace.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu called the speech “a big disappointment.”

“He deals obsessively with the settlements, he fails to deal with the Palestinian failure to recognize a Jewish state,” Netanyahu said, adding, “If he put the same emphasis on Palestinian incitement and terror that he did on settlements then maybe we will be on the way to peace.”

About two hours before Kerry started speaking, Trump tweeted his criticism of the Obama administration:

“We cannot continue to let Israel be treated with such total disdain and disrespect. They used to have a great friend in the U.S., but . . . not anymore. The beginning of the end was the horrible Iran deal, and now this (U.N.)! Stay strong Israel, January 20th is fast approaching!”

Netanyahu, in turn, promptly tweeted his gratitude: “President-elect Trump, thank you for your warm friendship and your clear-cut support for Israel!”

Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee, called Kerry’s speech “at best a pointless tirade in the waning days of an outgoing administration.”

The U.S. abstention has been condemned by several Democrats as well, including
Sen. Charles E. Schumer (N.Y.), who is the party’s incoming leader.

Kerry harshly condemns Israeli settler activity as an obstacle to peace

Culture and Sports Minister Miri Regev on Tuesday launched a double-barreled attack on US President Barack Obama, first calling on him to take note of Jerusalem’s ancient Jewish history and then dismissing him as being no longer relevant due to the upcoming end to his term in office.

“Who is Obama?” Regev asked rhetorically. “Obama is history. We have Trump.”

“Fifty years ago, we turned hope into reality: Jerusalem, the capital of Israel, was once again united, and we will never agree to its being divided a second time,” Regev declared.

“Several weeks ago UNESCO declared that there is no such link,” Regev said. “The ridiculous vote in Paris cannot cancel thousands of years of history. Today we respond to this distortion of history and say in a loud and clear voice: Jews lived in Jerusalem and will continue to live in Jerusalem. Jews built Jerusalem and will continue to build Jerusalem. Thus it was 2,000 years ago, thus it is today and thus it will remain forever.”

Defiant Israeli culture minister: ‘Obama is history, we have Trump’
Netanyahu's response is no better, going after New Zealand of all people lol
Israel needs Christ, right now they are a godless nation. When they accept Christ and therefore God that is a sign of the end.
 
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Netanyahu's response is no better, going after New Zealand of all people lol
Israel needs Christ, right now they are a godless nation. When they accept Christ and therefore God that is a sign of the end.
The mass conversion of Jews will happen when God puts the sign of the cross in the sky (Mt 24:30).
 
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The mass conversion of Jews will happen when God puts the sign of the cross in the sky.

I agree in that it will be in God's own timing, and not ours.
 
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The lesson is that Jewish settlements are not the main obstacle to peace.
The Jewish settlements are on occupied Palestinian land against international law, crowding the Palestinians into ever smaller areas. How is that not a major obstacle to peace?
 
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Israel deserves far more criticism than this administration has been willing to give.

At least Kerry criticized it but, to be honest, it's pretty easy to do that when it's cool/easier to criticize Israel because of years of what the rest of us have been doing in informing the public (and there is no doubt about it, it is far easier to criticize it now than it was 10 years ago. I would feel like banging my head against a wall when talking to staunch Israel-supporters much as how I feel when talking to "anti-imperialists"/Kremlin supporters/Assadists today). And it doesn't mean much coming from him with how his administration behaved with Syria. While I don't agree with this guy's views on Israel, this much is true:

Hi. I'm John Kerry. I stood by as 500,000 Syrians were killed. Now let me tell Israel what to do, because I am a moral midget.
 
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John Kerry delivered a marathon speech Wednesday excoriating Israel for its settlements policy, and we hear Israeli TV stations dropped the live broadcast after the first half-hour. Who can blame them? If Israelis don’t feel the need to sit through another verbal assault from the soon to be former Secretary of State, it’s because they live in a reality he shows no evidence of comprehending.

Mr. Kerry has made the pursuit of Israeli-Palestinian peace a major goal of his tenure, conducting intensive negotiations for nearly a year until they collapsed in spring 2014. That collapse came after the Palestinian Authority announced the creation of a unity government with Hamas, the terrorist group sworn to Israel’s destruction. Shortly thereafter, Hamas started a war with Israel from its Gaza stronghold, the third such war since Israel vacated Gaza of all settlements in 2005.

In his speech, Mr. Kerry went out of his way to personalize his differences with current Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, claiming he leads the “most right-wing” coalition in Israeli history. But Israelis also remember that Mr. Netanyahu ordered a settlement freeze, and that also brought peace no closer.

The lesson is that Jewish settlements are not the main obstacle to peace. If they were, Gaza would be on its way to becoming the Costa Rica of the Mediterranean. The obstacle is Palestinian rejection of Israel’s right to exist as a Jewish state in any borders. A Secretary of State who wishes to resolve the conflict could have started from that premise, while admonishing the Palestinians that they will never get a state so long as its primary purpose is the destruction of its neighbor.

Kerry’s Rage Against Israel


Secretary of State John F. Kerry on Wednesday harshly criticized Israeli settlements in the West Bank, saying their growth threatens to destroy the viability of a two-state solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, and that the United States was obliged to allow passage of a U.N. resolution condemning the activity in order to preserve the possibility of peace.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu called the speech “a big disappointment.”

“He deals obsessively with the settlements, he fails to deal with the Palestinian failure to recognize a Jewish state,” Netanyahu said, adding, “If he put the same emphasis on Palestinian incitement and terror that he did on settlements then maybe we will be on the way to peace.”

About two hours before Kerry started speaking, Trump tweeted his criticism of the Obama administration:

“We cannot continue to let Israel be treated with such total disdain and disrespect. They used to have a great friend in the U.S., but . . . not anymore. The beginning of the end was the horrible Iran deal, and now this (U.N.)! Stay strong Israel, January 20th is fast approaching!”

Netanyahu, in turn, promptly tweeted his gratitude: “President-elect Trump, thank you for your warm friendship and your clear-cut support for Israel!”

Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee, called Kerry’s speech “at best a pointless tirade in the waning days of an outgoing administration.”

The U.S. abstention has been condemned by several Democrats as well, including
Sen. Charles E. Schumer (N.Y.), who is the party’s incoming leader.

Kerry harshly condemns Israeli settler activity as an obstacle to peace

Culture and Sports Minister Miri Regev on Tuesday launched a double-barreled attack on US President Barack Obama, first calling on him to take note of Jerusalem’s ancient Jewish history and then dismissing him as being no longer relevant due to the upcoming end to his term in office.

“Who is Obama?” Regev asked rhetorically. “Obama is history. We have Trump.”

“Fifty years ago, we turned hope into reality: Jerusalem, the capital of Israel, was once again united, and we will never agree to its being divided a second time,” Regev declared.

“Several weeks ago UNESCO declared that there is no such link,” Regev said. “The ridiculous vote in Paris cannot cancel thousands of years of history. Today we respond to this distortion of history and say in a loud and clear voice: Jews lived in Jerusalem and will continue to live in Jerusalem. Jews built Jerusalem and will continue to build Jerusalem. Thus it was 2,000 years ago, thus it is today and thus it will remain forever.”

Defiant Israeli culture minister: ‘Obama is history, we have Trump’

Kerry only wants Israel to meet Hamas half way. Truly is that so harsh?

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Politics is weird, Kerry wants peace between Israel and the Hamas, but at the same time wants to get rid of Assad so the Hamas can quit having support, as Assad is one of the hamas biggest supporters and profvides a safe haven for them. Weird.
 
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The Jewish settlements are on occupied Palestinian land against international law, crowding the Palestinians into ever smaller areas. How is that not a major obstacle to peace?

First "Palestine" does not recognize Israel, so why should Israel recognize them? Second they are run by terrorist that call for the destruction of Israel. Not to mention in order to recognize a state, it must first exist in both geographical and political terms. That is, it must have a defined territory with internationally accepted borders and an established government that effectively runs that territory. This is not true of Palestine, where in reality we must talk about two governments and two territories: Fatah in the West Bank and Hamas in Gaza. Also Jerusalem will always remain Israels capital and have a stronger claim to it. So it will not be given up. The United States among other countries do not recognize Palestine as a country.
 
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Politics is weird, Kerry wants peace between Israel and the Hamas, but at the same time wants to get rid of Assad so the Hamas can quit having support, as Assad is one of the hamas biggest supporters and profvides a safe haven for them. Weird.

Not quite.

“We are following with great pain what is happening in Aleppo and the horrific massacres, murders and genocide its people are going through, and condemn it entirely,” read a statement from Hamas at the height of the bombardment of Aleppo.

...Ahmed Youssef, a senior Hamas figure and former foreign relations head, told al-Khaleej Online that his group would not change course – not least after what happened in Aleppo.

Youssef said the group’s position reflected that of the Palestinian public, who themselves have suffered similar brutality during Israel’s repeated assaults on the Gaza Strip.

He was adamant that Hamas would continue to stand in solidarity with Syria and condemn the killing of civilians there.

During Hamas’ recent parade commemorating the movement’s 29th anniversary, civilian Gazans and Qassam Brigade soldiers alike were seen carrying banners in solidarity with the people of Aleppo.


After Aleppo’s fall, Hamas finds itself resisting Tehran as well as Tel Aviv

Hamas fighter wearing Syrian revolutionary flag in solidarity with the Syrians during the most recent bout of ethnic cleansing/genocide in Aleppo:

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God-willing, Iran's influence in Palestine is going to decrease as it loses support among any Sunnis that favored it before because of any false claims about supporting Palestinians. Same goes for Assad and Russia and Hezbollah. The Sunnis have learned we're pretty much all alone, save God; and He is enough.
 
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Not quite.

“We are following with great pain what is happening in Aleppo and the horrific massacres, murders and genocide its people are going through, and condemn it entirely,” read a statement from Hamas at the height of the bombardment of Aleppo.

...Ahmed Youssef, a senior Hamas figure and former foreign relations head, told al-Khaleej Online that his group would not change course – not least after what happened in Aleppo.

Youssef said the group’s position reflected that of the Palestinian public, who themselves have suffered similar brutality during Israel’s repeated assaults on the Gaza Strip.

He was adamant that Hamas would continue to stand in solidarity with Syria and condemn the killing of civilians there.

During Hamas’ recent parade commemorating the movement’s 29th anniversary, civilian Gazans and Qassam Brigade soldiers alike were seen carrying banners in solidarity with the people of Aleppo.


After Aleppo’s fall, Hamas finds itself resisting Tehran as well as Tel Aviv

Hamas fighter wearing Syrian revolutionary flag in solidarity with the Syrians during the most recent bout of ethnic cleansing/genocide in Aleppo:

gaza%20hamas%20free%20syria%20flag.jpg


God-willing, Iran's influence in Palestine is going to decrease as it loses support among any Sunnis that favored it before because of any false claims about supporting Palestinians. Same goes for Assad and Russia. The Sunnis have learned we're all alone, save God; and He is enough.

Are Hamas mostly shia or sunni? just curious. I had always assumed they were shia majority for some reason, mostly bcause of their support seems to come from Shia majority and/or controlled parts of the world like Iran.
 
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Are Hamas mostly shia or sunni? just curious. I had always assumed they were shia majority for some reason, mostly bcause of their support seems to come from Shia majority and/or controlled parts of the world like Iran.

Most of Palestine is Sunni (I'd hazard a guess that all of the Muslims there identify as Sunni). Hamas is all Sunni as far as I know.

Iran supposedly supports the Palestinian cause but with strings attached (that those it supports should pledge loyalty to Iran, do its bidding, and/or toe its line). Unfortunately, there are some Palestinians who are in Syria fighting against the Syrian civilians on behalf of Assad's regime but Hamas is most decidedly against Assad because of his deliberate crimes against non-combatants.
 
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Hamas is most decidedly against Assad because of his deliberate crimes against non-combatants.

Wonder why Hamas is so considerate in Syria as opposed to their indiscriminate suicide bombing and rocket attacks on Israeli citizens.

Guess they don't consider Israeli citizens non combatants.
 
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Wonder why Hamas is so considerate in Syria as opposed to their indiscriminate suicide bombing and rocket attacks on Israeli citizens.

Guess they don't consider Israeli citizens non combatants.

Apparently.
 
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Wonder why Hamas is so considerate in Syria as opposed to their indiscriminate suicide bombing and rocket attacks on Israeli citizens.

Guess they don't consider Israeli citizens non combatants.

In the 2009 massacre of the Palestinians, 3 Israeli non-combatants died. This is pre-Iron Dome. And the # of Palestinians dead was ~1,400 with the majority of them being non-combatants.

Said during the 2014 massacre inflicted on Gazans by Israel:

"In a recorded message broadcast on July 29 by al-Aqsa television, Izzedin al-Qassam Brigades general commander Mohammad Daif declared that Gaza fighters were exclusively targeting active duty Israeli military personnel and avoiding attacks on civilians. So far, the Qassam Brigades have killed 65 Israeli soldiers, two Israeli civilians, one Thai worker, and wounded a kibbutz owl."

How Israel Used Its Own Civilians as Human Shields While Assaulting Gaza

And of those two Israeli civilians, one of them was distributing sweets to the IDF. This was the death toll as of 8/6/14. And the death toll on the Palestinian side was nearly 2,000 with ~70-80% of them being civilians according to the UN (~50% according to Israel).

So based on this, I think the one who should be accused of targeting civilians is Israel. Their army is the one with the sophisticated, guided weaponry, yet they kill far more non-combatants.
 
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