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Just When I Think Trump Couldn't Be Any Less Presidential

Discussion in 'American Politics' started by Hank77, Oct 23, 2020.

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  1. Hank77

    Hank77 Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Addressing his foreign counterpart, who was on speakerphone, Trump asked Netanyahu: “Do you think Sleepy Joe could have made this deal, Bibi? Sleepy Joe? I think — do you think he would have made this deal somehow? I don’t think so.”

    Netanyahu hesitated before offering a halting answer: “Well, Mr. President, one thing I can tell you is we appreciate the help for peace from anyone in America. And we appreciate what you’ve done enormously.”
    Netanyahu dodges Trump’s invitation to slam Biden on conference call

    He has a bunch of people and the press in the Oval to annouce that Sudan has agreed to normalize relations with Israel and this is what he thinks is important to say? I don't think he liked the answer he got.
     
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  2. mark46

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    Bibi has gotten a lot from Trump. Trump has gotten most of Sunnis to get together and work with Israel against Iran and the Shia (and their Hezbollah terrorists). Bibi has to listen to Trump's nonsense. I think that we might understand that Bibi do fine working with Biden.
     
  3. mark46

    mark46 Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Could Trump be less presidential. Sure! How about having a rally with thousands of old people all huddled together for hours with no masks?
     
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  4. Pommer

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    Ya gotta give Netanyahu credit for being quick on his feet, (though I could hear the subtext of “you, ******, trying to put me on the spot because YOU decided to get all these countries who had no problem with us codify that for whatever the American people have agreed to GIVE them so you could ask me this exact question!

    Trump is transactional, if he does you a “good turn” you owe him, big.
     
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  5. FireDragon76

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    Even garden-variety right-wing authoritarians might find Trump cringy? Color me unsurprised.

    Actually, Netenyahu is just not putting all his eggs in one basket.. After all, he knows what it's like to have the Sword of Damocles of the electorate hanging over your head.
     
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  6. mark46

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    Yes, indeed. That is what makes Bibi's restraint noteworthy.
     
  7. FireDragon76

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    Trump had little to do with the process to any substantive degree. The Arab states themselves have been secretly working with Israel for years, typically exchanges of intelligence or technology. All that happened was a formality.
     
  8. mark46

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    Trump has helped out by providing lots of up to date weapons to Arab countries. Also, I do believe that Trump's positions on Iran has helped to provide the Arabs and Israel some assurance that the US was on their side against Iran, and wasn't working on new deals with them.
     
  9. FireDragon76

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    Perhaps... but then again I think it's a fight the US shouldn't be in, especially as Trump turns a blind eye to the grisly murder of Saudi journalists or the brutal war in Yemen. Seems sort of a cynical thing to do, all to "pwn" Iran. Who exactly is the "peacemaker" here?
     
  10. mark46

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    I'm not taking sides here, just trying to look at it from the side of the Arabs and Israelis.

    From a purely US position, Iran (and their society and culture) is preferable to that of the Saudis (and the Sunni terrorists that they have funded) over the decades.
     
  11. Fantine

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    Sounds like Bibi is anticipating a Trump loss.
     
  12. SeventyOne

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    He had a similar hesitation and response when Trump mentioned Gantz at the peace deal, during his election time, at the beginning of this year, prior to the election of the 23rd Knesset. It's what Netanyahu does. You can't read anything into it.

    However, what you all get to look forward to is the Lord is using Trump to set up the accord with the 'many' the AC will eventually strenghten. The fourth party was confirmed just today. He's not going away until that is accomplished. Biblically speaking, Biden is hosed. It's not all bad news for your side though. That same AC will preside over a world government, and the nationalist Trump will need to be out of the picture. He'll need to be removed and replaced with someone in the US who will gladly hand us over to that evil one.
     
  13. Kentonio

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    Netanyahu is in a dangerous position. Israel has always been extremely careful not to get too drawn into US domestic politics because they know they need US support regardless of who is in the White House, but Netanyahu has trampled on that since he’s been in power. He took sides and now there’s a real risk of it coming back to bite him.
     
  14. paul1149

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    I think there's a side to Trump that works against his best interests. I don't like it or condone it when it's at its worst, but it is part of the brashness that got him into the Oval in the first place. It's part of the drive that makes him the hardest working president I'm aware of, ever. And it's part of what has made him a success in so many things. I don't let his rough edges obscure the good he does.
     
  15. HIM

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    Economically our deficit says it all. Our infrastructure has no base of it's own and has been supported by outside resources for years.
    The Civil unrest that is and will be coming will cause a dependency that will gladly be compliant to whatever entity comes.

    We as a whole are not a driven self sufficient people. We have been manipulated as a whole into being a depraved society that has their hands out for help rather to help. Instant and self gratification is engraved. It is unselfishly motivated work, time and commitment through God's Spirit that will fix this, fix the unfixable. Without this we are doomed.
     
  16. Kentonio

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    All the reports that have leaked out of the White House describe him as the laziest guy ever to hold the office. Where you get hard working from is a mystery. Unless golf is work now.
     
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  17. iluvatar5150

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    I can only assume you started following politics in 2017.
     
  18. The IbanezerScrooge

    The IbanezerScrooge I can't believe what I'm hearing...

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    Will you abandon your faith if Trump loses?
     
  19. durangodawood

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    Sorry, youre turning our national drama into a melodrama here. Its a little over the top.
     
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    Meee! All praise to meee, the King Of Israel!
     
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