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Just say 'racist'
Yesterday, the President of the United States "fanned the flames of a racial fire." According to a panoply of major news outlets, Trump "starkly injected" "racially infused" and "racially charged" words into a morning tweetstorm; the language he used was "widely established as a racist trope" and "usually considered an ugly racist taunt." The remarks were "called racist and xenophobic"; "denounced as racist"; an "example of 'racism'" (note the quote marks).

What had Trump said to necessitate such pained lexical contortion? He'd told a group of left-wing Democratic Congresswomen to "go back" to "the totally broken and crime infested places they came from." Of the lawmakers Trump appeared to be targeting, all bar one—Ilhan Omar—were born in America. Irrespective of that context, Trump's attack wasn't racially charged; it was just racist, by any useful definition of the term. Why didn't our media say so?

This is because of political correctness and turning a simple descriptive term into a bad word.

It's said best right here:
Calling a president's words "racist" or "a lie" can legitimately be thorny. Should we throw the words around? Probably not. But we should use them when they accurately reflect the truth. Very simply, that's our job. Go back to where you came from is textbook racism. When we contort ourselves to dance around that fact, the truth is injured.
 

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He'd told a group of left-wing Democratic Congresswomen to "go back" to "the totally broken and crime infested places they came from.

If they can't fix their hometowns....how can they run the USA?
He wasn't talking about their hometowns in America.
 
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He'd told a group of left-wing Democratic Congresswomen to "go back" to "the totally broken and crime infested places they came from.

If they can't fix their hometowns....how can they run the USA?

That is not accurate. He used the word "countries" and of the four of them, three of them were born in the US. If you look back at their ancestors, AOC's family came from Puerto Rico, which is still part of the US.

It's racist because he leaned on their heritage (and thus, their skin color) to portray them as non-Americans.

On top of that, he got the facts of their heritage wrong.
 
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He'd told a group of left-wing Democratic Congresswomen to "go back" to "the totally broken and crime infested places they came from.

If they can't fix their hometowns....how can they run the USA?
They come from the USA. Indeed one was born just 12 miles from where Donald was born.
 
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He'd told a group of left-wing Democratic Congresswomen to "go back" to "the totally broken and crime infested places they came from.

If they can't fix their hometowns....how can they run the USA?
He lives in the same "hometown" as one of the women he denigrated... are you saying he can't run the USA? Obviously, his hometown needs to be fixed and he hasn't done it.
 
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He lives in the same "hometown" as one of the women he denigrated... are you saying he can't run the USA? Obviously, his hometown needs to be fixed and he hasn't done it.

But he did do New York City a great service... by leaving it.
 
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He wasn't talking about their hometowns in America.
Was Trump talking about a congress women who was rescued from a country at war, who was placed in a camp...then came to America ....and is now bad mouthing the country that saved her and gave her so much?
 
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That is not accurate. He used the word "countries" and of the four of them, three of them were born in the US. If you look back at their ancestors, AOC's family came from Puerto Rico, which is still part of the US.

It's racist because he leaned on their heritage (and thus, their skin color) to portray them as non-Americans.

On top of that, he got the facts of their heritage wrong.
Where did he mention skin color?
 
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He lives in the same "hometown" as one of the women he denigrated... are you saying he can't run the USA? Obviously, his hometown needs to be fixed and he hasn't done it.

He didn't drive jobs away like AOC did. In fact jobs for people of color and women have gone up.
 
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They come from the USA. Indeed one was born just 12 miles from where Donald was born.

That seems to be the minimum safe distance...
 
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Was Trump talking about a congress women who was rescued from a country at war, who was placed in a camp...then came to America ....and is now bad mouthing the country that saved her and gave her so much?

...and should, in the opinions of some of his followers, be sent back to that country... preferably via a camp?
 
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...and should, in the opinions of some of his followers, be sent back to that country... preferably via a camp?

That's not the point. She was given MUCH....and now she is abusing her freedoms.

Perhaps she has a right to abuse the freedoms we have all enjoyed...but when given the backlash from abusing the freedoms Americans fought and died for....people like you complain.
 
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Was Trump talking about a congress women who was rescued from a country at war, who was placed in a camp...then came to America ....and is now bad mouthing the country that saved her and gave her so much?
That's only one of the four--the rest were born here--and she's not bad-mouthing the country, just administration policy, particularly right-wing extremist views on Israel.
 
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Where did he mention skin color?

He mentioned their heritage. Skin color is tied to heritage.

He didn't drive jobs away like AOC did. In fact jobs for people of color and women have gone up.

She didn't "drive away jobs". But to that point, one of the big concerns people had about Amazon moving in was its impact on affordable housing. Turns out they were right to be worried:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/busi...sing-prices-skyrocket/?utm_term=.1eb8eaaed76c
 
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That's only one of the four--the rest were born here--and she's not bad-mouthing the country, just administration policy, particularly right-wing extremist views on Israel.

So, we should simply turn our back on the only democracy in the Middle East? We should let Israel be over run by Irans proxies?
 
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That's not the point.

But that's what some people around here are saying. And if they say it to you... you'll agree.

She was given MUCH....and now she is abusing her freedoms.

Which freedom is she abusing?
 
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But that's what some people around here are saying. And if they say it to you... you'll agree.



Which freedom is she abusing?

She's abusing your freedoms. Perhaps you simply don't understand your freedoms. The American flag etc.
 
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