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Featured Just a heads up: age of Grace is coming to an end

Discussion in 'General Theology' started by friend of, Dec 5, 2017.

  1. Bible Believing Gentiles

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    Well fortunately for anyone reading this, I want to. And I'll take all the scripture that you think you can use to show a spiritual kingdom, and teach you some Bible because that's all I do all day every day while you're listening to youtube videos and getting into arguments:

    The entirety of Old World History is summed up in a period 7,000 years. This of course, is the time between The first creation, and the new creation. Better known as the Bible. We know well that God took 7 days to create creation number one, and we know that A day with the Lord is as a thousand years. And how do we know that History is exactly 7,000 years? It's not an assumption. It's based on real math using the following scriptures as the variables:

    Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
    Gen 1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
    Gen 1:3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
    Gen 1:4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
    Gen 1:5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
    Gen 1:6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
    Gen 1:7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.
    Gen 1:8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.
    Gen 1:9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
    Gen 1:10 And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.
    Gen 1:11 And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.
    Gen 1:12 And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
    Gen 1:13 And the evening and the morning were the third day.
    Gen 1:14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
    Gen 1:15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.
    Gen 1:16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.
    Gen 1:17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,
    Gen 1:18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.
    Gen 1:19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.
    Gen 1:20 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.
    Gen 1:21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
    Gen 1:22 And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth.
    Gen 1:23 And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.
    Gen 1:24 And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.
    Gen 1:25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
    Gen 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
    Gen 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
    Gen 1:28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
    Gen 1:29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
    Gen 1:30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.
    Gen 1:31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.
    Gen 2:1 Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.
    Gen 2:2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.

    2Pe 3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.


    Luk 3:23 And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli,
    Luk 3:24 Which was the son of Matthat, which was the son of Levi, which was the son of Melchi, which was the son of Janna, which was the son of Joseph,
    Luk 3:25 Which was the son of Mattathias, which was the son of Amos, which was the son of Naum, which was the son of Esli, which was the son of Nagge,
    Luk 3:26 Which was the son of Maath, which was the son of Mattathias, which was the son of Semei, which was the son of Joseph, which was the son of Juda,
    Luk 3:27 Which was the son of Joanna, which was the son of Rhesa, which was the son of Zorobabel, which was the son of Salathiel, which was the son of Neri,
    Luk 3:28 Which was the son of Melchi, which was the son of Addi, which was the son of Cosam, which was the son of Elmodam, which was the son of Er,
    Luk 3:29 Which was the son of Jose, which was the son of Eliezer, which was the son of Jorim, which was the son of Matthat, which was the son of Levi,
    Luk 3:30 Which was the son of Simeon, which was the son of Juda, which was the son of Joseph, which was the son of Jonan, which was the son of Eliakim,
    Luk 3:31 Which was the son of Melea, which was the son of Menan, which was the son of Mattatha, which was the son of Nathan, which was the son of David,
    Luk 3:32 Which was the son of Jesse, which was the son of Obed, which was the son of Booz, which was the son of Salmon, which was the son of Naasson,
    Luk 3:33 Which was the son of Aminadab, which was the son of Aram, which was the son of Esrom, which was the son of Phares, which was the son of Juda,
    Luk 3:34 Which was the son of Jacob, which was the son of Isaac, which was the son of Abraham, which was the son of Thara, which was the son of Nachor,
    Luk 3:35 Which was the son of Saruch, which was the son of Ragau, which was the son of Phalec, which was the son of Heber, which was the son of Sala,
    Luk 3:36 Which was the son of Cainan, which was the son of Arphaxad, which was the son of Sem, which was the son of Noe, which was the son of Lamech,
    Luk 3:37 Which was the son of Mathusala, which was the son of Enoch, which was the son of Jared, which was the son of Maleleel, which was the son of Cainan,
    Luk 3:38 Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.

    The genealogy from Adam to Jesus is calculated at 4,000 years because where each of these people appear in the Old Testament, it is very clear on how long they lived. I'm not doing that math on this script. If the theory is correct, then this would be the first "4 days" of human History.

    We know because of all of the old prophecies, and the entire book of Acts, that God is going to stop dealing with Israel for a long time, allowing them to go into captivity and focus on the Gentiles. Hosea the prophet predicted that after TWO DAYS, two prophetic thousand years, The Lord would lift their nation above all others, and live among them.

    Hos 6:1 Come, and let us return unto the LORD: for he hath torn, and he will heal us; he hath smitten, and he will bind us up.
    Hos 6:2 After two days will he revive us: in the third day he will raise us up, and we shall live in his sight.

    Captivity for 2 days. and then they will be revived. This revival was predicted as well in

    Jer 24:2 One basket had very good figs, even like the figs that are first ripe: and the other basket had very naughty figs, which could not be eaten, they were so bad.
    Jer 24:3 Then said the LORD unto me, What seest thou, Jeremiah? And I said, Figs; the good figs, very good; and the evil, very evil, that cannot be eaten, they are so evil.
    Jer 24:4 Again the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,
    Jer 24:5 Thus saith the LORD, the God of Israel; Like these good figs, so will I acknowledge them that are carried away captive of Judah, whom I have sent out of this place into the land of the Chaldeans for their good.
    Jer 24:6 For I will set mine eyes upon them for good, and I will bring them again to this land: and I will build them, and not pull them down; and I will plant them, and not pluck them up.

    This verse also aligns with The Parable of the fig tree and another quote from the Lord
    Mat 24:32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:
    Mat 24:33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.
    Mat 24:34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
    Mat 24:35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

    Who sats that the generation that is around when ISrael is revived will not pass a way (Which happened in 1948, close to 2,000 years according to american reckoning and now 18 years beyond 2,000 years, which would be during the third day, or third prophetic thousand years after they rejected their messiah. according to human reckoning. What things would be fulfulled?
    Mat 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

    Where else do we see this happening?
    Rev 7:1 And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.
    Rev 7:2 And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea,
    Rev 7:3 Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.
    Rev 7:4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.

    What happens next?
    The wrath of God.
    Rev 19:11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
    Rev 19:12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.
    Rev 19:13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
    Rev 19:14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
    Rev 19:15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
    Rev 19:16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.
    Rev 19:17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God;
    Rev 19:18 That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great.
    Rev 19:19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.
    Rev 19:20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.
    Rev 19:21 And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.

    Rev 20:1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
    Rev 20:2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
    Rev 20:3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
    Rev 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
    Rev 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
    Rev 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.


    BUT if you don't like Math and studying prophecies, you can just simply believe plain english the first time you read about the specifics revealed to John on the kingdom. If you don't have enough faith to believe a simple word in one verse, why should you ever believe the enitre verse of?

    2Ti 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
     
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  2. Bible Believing Gentiles

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    I'm ready for your spiritual verses that you're going to use from the gospels, which are the only books you read. But you can not if you want and I'll give you a few verses you can use to stop yourself so you can move on to Paul's ministry

    Mat 13:34 All these things spake Jesus unto the multitude in parables; and without a parable spake he not unto them:
    Mat 13:35 That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, saying, I will open my mouth in parables; I will utter things which have been kept secret from the foundation of the world.


    Mat 13:10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?
    Mat 13:11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.
    Mat 13:12 For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.
    Mat 13:13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.
    Mat 13:14 And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:

    Psa 78:2 I will open my mouth in a parable: I will utter dark sayings of old:

    Isa 6:9 And he said, Go, and tell this people, Hear ye indeed, but understand not; and see ye indeed, but perceive not.
    Isa 6:10 Make the heart of this people fat, and make their ears heavy, and shut their eyes; lest they see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and convert, and be healed.
    Isa 6:11 Then said I, Lord, how long? And he answered, Until the cities be wasted without inhabitant, and the houses without man, and the land be utterly desolate,

    Rom 11:13 For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office:
    Rom 11:14 If by any means I may provoke to emulation them which are my flesh, and might save some of them.
    Rom 11:15 For if the casting away of them be the reconciling of the world, what shall the receiving of them be, but life from the dead?
    Rom 11:16 For if the firstfruit be holy, the lump is also holy: and if the root be holy, so are the branches.
    Rom 11:17 And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert graffed in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree;
    Rom 11:18 Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee.
    Rom 11:19 Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be graffed in.
    Rom 11:20 Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:
    Rom 11:21 For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.



    You need to stop reading anything outside of Romans - Philemon until you understand how to use the Bible
     
  3. LittleLambofJesus

    LittleLambofJesus PESKY DEVIL! GIT! l SAID GIT! Supporter

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    Just a heads up: age of Grace is coming to an end
    What makes you think the age of Grace is going to end? I believe it is here to stay into the ages of ages......
    I agree. The end has been Nigh for 2000 yrs......

    John 11:48 "If-ever we may be be letting Him thus, all shall be believing in Him.
    And shall be coming the Romans and they shall be taking away of Us and the Place and the Nation

    [Reve 6:6/14:8]


    Peter 4:7 Of all-things yet The End Has-Neared/hggiken <1448> (5758);
    be sane then, and be sober into the prayers
    ,

    James 5:8 be patient! and stand-fast! the hearts of ye,
    for the Parousia <3952> of the Lord has-neared/hggiken <1448>(5758);

    Revelation 1:3 Blessed the one reading, and the ones hearing, the Words of the Prophecy, and keepings in it/her having been Written, for the Time Is-Nigh/egguV <1451>.

    Revelation 22:10 And he is saying to me "no thou should be sealing the Words of the Prophecy of this Scroll.
    For the Time Is Nigh/egguV <1451
    >

    Revelation 6:6 And I hear a voice in midst of the four living-ones saying: "choinex of grain/wheat a denari and three choinex of barleys a denari,
    and the oil and the wine no you should be injuring
    ".

    The Destruction of Jerusalem - George Peter Holford, 1805AD
    The Destruction Of JERUSALEM
    An Absolute and Irresistible PROOF OF THE DIVINE ORIGIN OF CHRISTIANITY:

    .............The day on which Titus encompassed Jerusalem, was the feast of the Passover; and it is deserving of the very particular attention of the reader, that this was the anniversary of that memorable period in which the Jews crucified their Messiah!.................

    In executing the command of Titus, relative to the demolition of Jerusalem, the Roman soldiers not only threw down the buildings, but even dug up their foundations, and so completely levelled the whole circuit of the city, that a stranger would scarcely have known that it had ever been inhabited by human beings.
    Thus was this great City, which only five months before, had been crowded with nearly two millions of people, who gloried in its impregnable strength, entirely depopulated, and levelled with the ground...................................

    Luke 19:
    41 And as He nears, beholding the City and He laments on Her,
    44 And shall be leveling Thee and thy offspring in thee, and not shall be leaving stone upon stone in thee, instead which not thou knew the time of thy visitation/overseeing/inspection
    ".


     
  4. friend of

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    I mean to say there will "soon" be no excuse for the world to deny Jesus as Lord of all nations. It will be a fact. Rejection of Christ in that age will be tantamount to sedition and/or treason.
     
  5. LittleLambofJesus

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    Gotta keep the faith of Jesus

    1 John 2:22
    Any is the Falsifier if no the one denying/arnou-menoV <720> (5740) that Jesus not is the Christ, this one is the anti-christ,
    the one denying/arnou-menoV <720> (5740) the Father and the Son.


    2 Peter 2:1
    And there did come also false prophets among the people, as also among you there shall be false teachers, who shall bring in besides destructive sects,
    and the Owner/Master/despothn <1203> who bought them denying/disowning/arnou-menoi <720> (5740), bringing to themselves quick destruction

    [Jeremiah 14:14,15/Matt 24:11/Jude 1:4/Revelation 6:10]

    Jude 1:4
    For slipped in have certain men the of old, being written into this, the judgement, irreverence of the God of us, grace batering into wantoness, and the only Owner/Master God and Lord of us, Jesus Christ, disowning/arnou-menoi <720> (5740).

    Reve 3:8
    I have percieved of thee the works. Behold! I have given before thee a door, having been opened, which no-one is able to lock. That little thou are having power,
    and thou keep of Me the Word, and not thou disown/deny/hrnhsw <720> (5662)
    the Name of Me

    Isa 6:11
    Then I said, “Lord, how long?” And He answered:
    “Until the cities are laid waste and without inhabitant,
    The houses are without a man,
    The land is utterly desolate,

    Jer 4:14

    O Jerusalem, wash your heart from wickedness,
    That you may be saved.
    How long shall your evil thoughts lodge within you?

    Mat 23:35 “that on you may come all the righteous blood shed on the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah

    Rev 18:24
    And in Her was found the blood of prophets and saints, and of all who were slain on the earth.”

    Reve 6:10
    And they cry out to a great voice saying "how long, the Owner/Master/despothV <1203> the Holy and True, not Thou are judging and avenging the blood of us from out of the ones homing upon the land?"

    The Destruction of Jerusalem - George Peter Holford, 1805AD

    In executing the command of Titus, relative to the demolition of Jerusalem, the Roman soldiers not only threw down the buildings, but even dug up their foundations, and so completely levelled the whole circuit of the city, that a stranger would scarcely have known that it had ever been inhabited by human beings.[ ISAIAH 6:11]
    Thus was this great City, which only five months before, had been crowded with nearly two millions of people, who gloried in its impregnable strength, entirely depopulated, and levelled with the ground.
     
  6. joshua 1 9

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    Jesus is talking about when the temple in Jerusalem was going to be tore down. We know now because this has taken place in the past.
     
  7. joshua 1 9

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    The age of Grace began on the day of Pentecost in the year 29 AD. So if you want to count 2,000 years then you are looking at the year 2029.

     
  8. AnticipateHisComing

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    How can one who claims to be a great student of the Bible to have obtained such great knowledge of the Bible post such childish rants absent of the fruit of the Bible? Your knowledge of scripture is as lacking as your maturity to communicate. I often find those who can't strongly defend what they profess resort to such name calling as you. You insult one with a differing opinion as one does in high school. You have no idea what I have read and I have no idea what you have read. That is why I would never dare to speak about such. Some people have no shame in speaking about what they don't know though.

    BTW, as I predicted in all your rambling text quoted, only one disputed text speaks to a thousand year reign of Christ. If you have ever read and studied Corinthians you would find that Jesus is already reigning until that last day. Further if you have studied scripture you would have learned how it uses thousand as a superlative and not always literally.

    Also, you think 2 Peter 3:8 so important, but dismiss verses 10 through 14 that teaches the day of the Lord is the same day that the earth is destroyed; that we on earth should look forward to that day. Verse 15 says Paul teaches the same. There are multiple other texts that all teach the 2nd coming of Jesus is judgement day, the last day, where the earth is destroyed and a new one made. Lastly, you need to study verse 16.
     
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